Wiring issue on new extractor fan

wannabecraig

I just removed my old extractor fan and have bought a new one. The old one was just a plug in, and there was a socket in
place near the back for the fan in a perfect spot.The new fan however is a wired in one. It just has a live and a neutral, no earth. What are my options for wiring it in?



Ideally I'd just like to put a plug on it and plug it into something like this
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Calahonda52

Mod: Maybe move to elec forum

Samoa Joe

Just stick a plug top on it.

Calahonda52

Samoa Joe wrote: »

Just stick a plug top on it.

The regs have changed for this sort of stuff

wannabecraig

Calahonda52 wrote: »

The regs have changed for this sort of stuff

Thanks, to what? Looking for a safe but uncomplicated solution.

wannabecraig

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Mod: Maybe move to elec forum

Yes, my mistake, MODs, can you move please.

xabi

wannabecraig

@ Xabi, can I wire the wires that go into the current socket into that?

xabi

Yep, but you probably want the switched version of that spur.

Effects

Calahonda52 wrote: »

The regs have changed for this sort of stuff

Really? What's the reason for the rule change?

I understand that if the socket is hidden behind the extractor chimney then it needs to have a separate isolator switch, doesn't it?

wannabecraig

Effects wrote: »

Really? What's the reason for the rule change?

In the event of the house going on fire, I doubt my insurance would cover it if I had a plug on the fan when there wasn't supposed to be one.

wannabecraig

xabi wrote: »

Yep, but you probably want the switched version of that spur.

Thanks, I don't really know what that means, apologies.

I'm heading up to the hardware store now, should I just ask for a
Double Pole Switched Fused Spur outlet?

xabi

Yes, with a cable outlet on the front of it

wannabecraig

xabi wrote: »

Yes, with a cable outlet on the front of it

Excellent, thanks a lot for all the advise.

Effects

wannabecraig wrote: »

In the event of the house going on fire, I doubt my insurance would cover it if I had a plug on the fan when there wasn't supposed to be one.

I just wanted to know the reason for it not being allowed, if that is the case.

wannabecraig wrote: »

I'm heading up to the hardware store now, should I just ask for a
Double Pole Switched Fused Spur outlet?

Have you asked your electrician advice on what to get? I'd be worried about you wiring a spur yourself, rather than a plug. Especially if you are worried about insurance not paying out in the event of a claim.

wannabecraig

Effects wrote: »

Have you asked your electrician advice on what to get? I'd be worried about you wiring a spur yourself, rather than a plug. Especially if you are worried about insurance not paying out in the event of a claim.

I think it's the fact that I'd have used the recommended equipment.
Electrician in work said I'd be able to wire it myself.

Advise was 'If it doesn't come with a plug it's not meant to have a plug on it'.

Effects

It's more difficult than wiring a plug and easier to make a dangerous mistake with.
Why do electrical suppliers sell plugs if anything that needs a plug comes with a plug?

A friend of mine recently bought an extractor, from Power City, that came with a two pin euro plug on it.
He sent a photo, and I could see from the photo that the builder just forced it into the 3 pin socket, rather than change the plug.
I'm not sure if it needs an earth, but if it does then it isn't connected to one the way it currently is.

I can't see why it needs a spur, rather than just a three pin plug, and was hoping an electrician here might be able to explain further.

wannabecraig

Effects wrote: »

I can't see why it needs a spur, rather than just a three pin plug, and was hoping an electrician here might be able to explain further.

I think it was just an anecdote I was sharing, I too have no real idea.
TBH I don't even know what a spur is

bonzodog2

If you have a socket close enough, it will work fine and be safe. An extractor fan is generally a non-portable appliance, hence why it would be wired in permamently.