Nitrate Derogation under threat?

Gawddawggonnit

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/derogation-conditions-to-be-reviewed-in-2019-434837

freedominacup

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/derogation-conditions-to-be-reviewed-in-2019-434837

Interesting how relatively small the farms are on average.

Keep Sluicing

freedominacup wrote: »

Interesting how relatively small the farms are on average.

Shur isnt the average irish farm 38 ha(open to correction). The farms in Derogation are averaging twice that.

With all the environmental talk, i can see derogation under threat. But i have a sneaky suspicion that there will be 3 year extension of the current regulations.

alps

Read carefully...

Minister for Agriculture Michael Creed said: “In order to ensure the sustainable continuation of the derogation, a review will examine further opportunities for derogation farmers to improve efficiencies and continue to reduce their environmental footprint.”


It's about measures to keep it.

Gawddawggonnit

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Shur isnt the average irish farm 38 ha(open to correction). The farms in Derogation are averaging twice that.

With all the environmental talk, i can see derogation under threat. But i have a sneaky suspicion that there will be 3 year extension of the current regulations.

Lots of political headwinds starting to appear on the horizon.
That may intensify if things continue ‘going the wrong way’...

Got my nitrate and phosphate results back yesterday. Not allowed to spread any chemical P and nitrogen reduced to 44units/acre for 2019.
Slurry/fym spreading dates extended by 6 weeks...and things have been ‘going the *right* way’ for 19 yrs.
Go figure.

wrangler

We had a presentation at our last discussion group from one of the new advisors, he'll be callling at our farms over the next two years advising on how to clean up our act, he was very particular,that's the carrot as it were and the stick will be introduced then,
The next derogation will depend on the performance of farmers in the interim.
Water quality in Ireland is not reaching the quality required, but there is less bad offenders ....Council have done a blitz on them over the last few years.
I think this advisor was disappointed to find even dock spray in the water

yosemitesam1

Was the talk of collecting roadway water for this nitrates plan or was that looking further ahead?

alps

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Was the talk of collecting roadway water for this nitrates plan or was that looking further ahead?

It's for the new nitrates plan and will apply to all farm's. It's not so much collecting water, but ensuring that the gradients from all roadways slope towards a field or the upper side of the roadway to the extent that you will never get "runoff" from the road that will make its way to a drain or combine with drain water and make its way towards a waterway..

jaymla627

alps wrote: »

It's for the new nitrates plan and will apply to all farm's. It's not so much collecting water, but ensuring that the gradients from all roadways slope towards a field or the upper side of the roadway to the extent that you will never get "runoff" from the road that will make its way to a drain or combine with drain water and make its way towards a waterway..

Will have to go housed 365 here if that comes in, I wonder will domestic discharge of sewerage from county councils come under the remit of it