Dairy Beef Index - ICBF

patsy_mccabe

I see ICBF have now launched a new Dairy Beef Index. I wonder will they show this info at ringside.

https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=12504

memorystick

Too late. Bring back British Fresian. End of.

Never wrestle with pigs

memorystick wrote: »

Too late. Bring back British Fresian. End of.

Agree totally. Mate of mine converting to dairy and has a fine bunch of bf Heifers on point of calving. They are a sight to see. Really nice square girls and flagging down well. He's going to do a few weeks of August and run a lim bull with them then. He'll be ate for the calves.

alps

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Agree totally. Mate of mine converting to dairy and has a fine bunch of bf Heifers on point of calving. They are a sight to see. Really nice square girls and flagging down well. He's going to do a few weeks of August and run a lim bull with them then. He'll be ate for the calves.

Friesian here too but the limousin bull shouldn't be put anywhere near the tail end of a dairy herd as the gestation length is far too long.

Calf value is completely absorbed by just a few days increase in calving interval..

wrangler

alps wrote: »

Friesian here too but the limousin bull shouldn't be put anywhere near the tail end of a dairy herd as the gestation length is far too long.

Calf value is completely absorbed by just a few days increase in calving interval..

True, and will be the way while farmers are stupid enough to bid too much for friesian calves....... again they are authors of their own demise.
Hopefully the bad press on friesians will be heeded this year

jaymla627

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Agree totally. Mate of mine converting to dairy and has a fine bunch of bf Heifers on point of calving. They are a sight to see. Really nice square girls and flagging down well. He's going to do a few weeks of August and run a lim bull with them then. He'll be ate for the calves.

Won’t compensate for the lack of milk once they go incalf and basically are dry by October, they’re a great animal for longevity and going back in-calf but the production just isn’t their....

GrasstoMilk

jaymla627 wrote: »

Won’t compensate for the lack of milk once they go incalf and basically are dry by October, they’re a great animal for longevity and going back in-calf but the production just isn’t their....

Fully agree there. Mate bought quite a sizable bunch of calves off a high profile BF breeder. Most were dry come the ploughing in there first lactation and not to much different in there 2nd either. Once he had enough of his replacements coming in he sold them on. His 1st lactation heifers were doing the same amount in year one as the bfs were doing in there 3rd lactation

memorystick

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Fully agree there. Mate bought quite a sizable bunch of calves off a high profile BF breeder. Most were dry come the ploughing in there first lactation and not to much different in there 2nd either. Once he had enough of his replacements coming in he sold them on. His 1st lactation heifers were doing the same amount in year one as the bfs were doing in there 3rd lactation

Not from a dairy farm and didn't know that.

patsy_mccabe

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Fully agree there. Mate bought quite a sizable bunch of calves off a high profile BF breeder. Most were dry come the ploughing in there first lactation and not to much different in there 2nd either. Once he had enough of his replacements coming in he sold them on. His 1st lactation heifers were doing the same amount in year one as the bfs were doing in there 3rd lactation

I thought BFs were more or less all gone now. I had a look tru the Munster AI Dairy catalogue a while back and no pure BFs in it.
Suckler farmer here, by the way.

GrasstoMilk

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I thought BFs were more or less all gone now. I had a look tru the Munster AI Dairy catalogue a while back and no pure BFs in it.
Suckler farmer here, by the way.

Still there. Some lads keeping the bulls off the best cows and taking straws off them

whelan2

I used British friesian stock bulls for a few years. It made my herd, between improved calf health, and calf size you can't beat a bit of British friesian. Crossed with the holstein so still have the milk, also bought in 17 pure British friesian cows from herds down the country

Buford T. Justice XIX

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I thought BFs were more or less all gone now. I had a look tru the Munster AI Dairy catalogue a while back and no pure BFs in it.
Suckler farmer here, by the way.

Dovea would have the most Friesian bulls and test a good number as well every year.


Munster, not so much.

bogman_bass

whelan2 wrote: »

I used British friesian stock bulls for a few years. It made my herd, between improved calf health, and calf size you can't beat a bit of British friesian. Crossed with the holstein so still have the milk, also bought in 17 pure British friesian cows from herds down the country

The BFxHO animal is a fantastic beast. The pure BF less so.

GrasstoMilk

whelan2 wrote: »

I used British friesian stock bulls for a few years. It made my herd, between improved calf health, and calf size you can't beat a bit of British friesian. Crossed with the holstein so still have the milk, also bought in 17 pure British friesian cows from herds down the country

I would say the sane about jersey in my herd but not everyone would agree.
Im just imparting knowledge on the pure bf heifers my friend bought