Anyone using separate personal & work mobile phones...?

Dinarius

If so, why?

What are the advantages?

Thanks.

D.

Fann Linn

Boss doesn't know how long I'm on it!

katiek102010

Work pay for work one. Cannot make or receive personal calls on it

screamer

Being able to turn off your work phone and still be contactable to family and friends. Also, I don’t want work having my personal number. Work is work, home is separate.

marty.mc

I turn of the work phone when not at work, turn it back on when at work, im no where near stressed or over worked like some of my colleagues, if im not getting paid i dont need or want to be pestered.
Boss was annoyed at first, but when i asked about getting paid for out of work calls he grumbled and dropped the subject, he kept it up for about a month and then never mentioned it again, thats about 3.5 years ago.

368100

Pornhub

PhoenixParker

I did for a long time.

Advantages:
I could hand it over when on holidays
I could put it on silent and leave it out of the way at weekends
Work didn't drip into private time
I didn't have hassle when I left, just handed the phone over and went on my way

Disadvantages:
Carrying two phones, but since i generally carry a handbag it never bothered me

On balance, I'd recommend it.

mad muffin

I can ditch it when the cops come.

Dravokivich

Used to have one when I worked in complaints. Idea was to give the user base the idea I was more accessible. But if I wasn't in, it was off.

elperello

I have two phones and people keep slagging me and saying I must be a drug dealer.

(I'm not!)

OldMrBrennan83

I looked at doing it for a while but work pay the bill regardless so I just use it as my personal phone too as it would just be hassle having two. I just don't answer it to work calls after 5 or at weekends.

corner of hells

PhoenixParker wrote: »

I did for a long time.

Advantages:
I could hand it over when on holidays
I could put it on silent and leave it out of the way at weekends
Work didn't drip into private time
I didn't have hassle when I left, just handed the phone over and went on my way

Disadvantages:
Carrying two phones, but since i generally carry a handbag it never bothered me

On balance, I'd recommend it.

A handbag ?

Fann Linn

corner of hells wrote: »

A handbag ?

Sexist.

JustAThought

Vodafone have contracts for as little as e20. You want to be a 24/7 slave to your boss and all their customers for as little as e20?

Plus. Lunatics ringing yiu at midnight for some insignificant something. Overseas calls -I had US contacts - at 6 or 7pm I switched off my work phone -getting calls at 0400 am or 0500 am were becoming too frequent.

Everything is 'an emergency ' after 6 or 7pm - if you see it and ignore it is is now your fault.

Constantly tipping away at emails coming in on the phone and never able to relax.Losing 2 or 3 hours a night to this nonsense.

The expectation of always being on call and available to work - regardless of anything significant or otherwise in your life.

No thanks,payment or gratitude for.your work enslavery while you boss swans off for childs plays in schools, relaxed meals out and cinema/holidays etc while you are accused of not being professional for not having the details or documentation the client wants to hand.

Turn the phone off - leave it on your desk - you are not working - go off and enjoy your wife/children/sport/evening/calm. Tomorrow is another day. No money can pay you for less stress and less pressure.

OldMrBrennan83

JustAThought wrote: »

Vodafone have contracts for as little as e20. You want to be a 24/7 slave to your boss and all their customers for as little as e20?

Plus. Lunatics ringing yiu at midnight for some insignificant something. Overseas calls -I had US contacts - at 6 or 7pm I switched off my work phone -getting calls at 0400 am or 0500 am were becoming too frequent.

Everything is 'an emergency ' after 6 or 7pm - if you see it and ignore it is is now your fault.

Constantly tilping away at emails coming in on the phone and never able to relax.

The expectation of always being onncall and available to work - regardless of anything significant or otherwise in your life.

No thanks,payment or gratitude for.your work enslavery while you boss swans off for childs plays in schools, relaxed meals out and cinema/holidays etc while you are accused of not being professional for not having the details or documentation the client wants to hand.

Turn the phone off - leave it on your desk - yoy are not working - go off and enjoy your wofe/children/sport/evening/calm. Tomorrow is another day. No money can pay you for less stress and less pressure.

How can't someone relax? Just look at it, if it's work outside hours then swipe the notification away and check it in the morning.
I always see Americans complain about notifications like that, like it's impossible to ignore one. Can never understand that. Look - decide - ignore or don't, but it's a choice.

Gimme A Pound

I have to have both. The switching off (apart from when on call) is great - I know you could ignore but it's better again not to hear/see notifications at all.

Prominent_Dawg

Think it’s so rude to contact someone on their day off

Amirani

I have a dual SIM phone, I don't want to carry 2 phones. Have notifications from my work email turned off so I actually have to go into the app to check if I have any, they don't just pop up. Can disable either of the SIM slots if and when I need to, but the people I work with don't tend to take the piss with tonnes of calls.

Work SIM is handy as I use it roaming. Been on personal trips to US, Turkey, India and Thailand the past year and it's good to be able to get internet when I need it.

BeerWolf

My work phone is an old Samsung Core Prime that I don't care for should it get damaged or stolen... where as my private personal use phone is a Razer 2, which I don't bring to work.

PhoenixParker

corner of hells wrote: »

A handbag ?

Yes. Women have work phones too.

PhoenixParker

Prominent_Dawg wrote: »

Think it’s so rude to contact someone on their day off

Depending on the industry and the industries you work with they may not know whether it's your day off or what your office hours are. They almost certainly won't know when you're on holiday.

KERSPLAT!

I've a work and personal phone. I need mine for on call and testing. I've a dual SIM phone so it's dead handy and the work SIM can be deactivated at any time. It's a phone for internal use and few, if any, customers would have it so there's no hassle in the evening or weekends.

368100

I also dont like the phone I get with work and no choice to change....iPhone SE...Ive android on my personal ...s7 edge, far better phone.

Strumms

I worked for a large multinational before taking a recent career break so it wasn’t practical to keep the work phone on 24\7 as folks abroad wouldn’t think to look up your shift etc....

CollyFlower

I'd have no problem being contacted by my employer if they contacted me by my personal phone and they paid for the phone credit.

Wildly Boaring

I use the 1 number

I steadfastly refuse to have work emails on any phone. Turned them off in about 2012 and refused to put on any phone since.

I read emails when I sit at my desk. If that takes 3 days, well it takes 3 days. If its important ring me.

I have a text set up to just send people if I'm off.

Anyone rings after I get in the door at home and they can wait for my drive to wherever I am in the morning. I'll just ring them back at 7 or 7.30am soon cuts out that craic, unless it was an emergency.

Dinarius

Thanks for the replies.

On balance, a lot of you make a case for a second phone.

Two questions...

1. Is there a way to setup a smart phone so that only personal calls ring through when you activate this feature?

2. Good examples of dual SIM slot phones? (Do Apple make one?)

Thanks.

D.

McMurphy

Dinarius wrote: »

Thanks for the replies.

On balance, a lot of you make a case for a second phone.

Two questions...

1. Is there a way to setup a smart phone so that only personal calls ring through when you activate this feature?

2. Good examples of dual SIM slot phones? (Do Apple make one?)

Thanks.

D.

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All the features and specs of a premium phone but without the premium price tag.

I don't think I could go back to Samsung etc now, and the dual SIM feature is invaluable.

KERSPLAT!

Dinarius wrote: »

Thanks for the replies.

On balance, a lot of you make a case for a second phone.

Two questions...

1. Is there a way to setup a smart phone so that only personal calls ring through when you activate this feature?

2. Good examples of dual SIM slot phones? (Do Apple make one?)

Thanks.

D.

Any dual SIM phone will allow you deactivate either SIM whenever you want. You might even get an app or be able to set a profile up that will only allow the work phone to ring between say 9-5 Monday to Friday.

I've a OnePlus 6 and love it but it was expensive enough at around €520, the latest from OnePlus is the 6T, going for similar money I would say but you're sure to pick up a half decent dual SIM phone for €150/200 easy enough.

_Kaiser_

screamer wrote: »

Being able to turn off your work phone and still be contactable to family and friends. Also, I don’t want work having my personal number. Work is work, home is separate.

This.

Being carrying 2 phones for a decade now. Also saves hassle of work security policies being enforced on your phone, potential arguing over bills, and you can move networks if you want to.

Would like a dual SIM phone sometimes but they're hard to get unless you buy online at full price generally (currently using an S9+ but a dual-Sim Note 9 could be good)

KERSPLAT!

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This.

Being carrying 2 phones for a decade now. Also saves hassle of work security policies being enforced on your phone, potential arguing over bills, and you can move networks if you want to.

Would like a dual SIM phone sometimes but they're hard to get unless you buy online at full price generally (currently using an S9+ but a dual-Sim Note 9 could be good)

They're becoming much more common now and at decent prices too.

hussey

A work phone is property of your employer, which means all communication is also property of your employer, if things ever go south, they can take it back, with all your personal communication on it.
It's always a good idea to separate your personal life from your work life.

gandalf

In over twenty years I have always kept my personal phone separate from work. I started to do it originally because I saw colleagues lose their numbers when they left companies as the organisation argued the number was their property. I also like having the ability to turn the work phone off or to leave it behind when I go on holiday. I also only have my personal social media accounts on my personal phone and the work one is purely for work use and apps.

biko

I feel more important when I put two phones on the table than just one.

the_syco

If you only have the one phone, that the company has, they can contact you whenever. This can include the weekends.

If you get sacked, you may not get time to back up any of your contacts, and no-one will be able to keep in contact with you.

Finally, any social plans go via my personal phone; wouldn't feel comfortable with work having access to texts from mates asking if I want to go for a pint on a weekday night.

salmocab

I have 2, the work one is left in my car and off. The only reason it gets out of the building is I need it to open the gate into the business park. It’s turned off straight away and I won’t even bring it into my house. I tell them in work if the building burns down the first I want to know of it is when I drive in to see the smoldering remains.
I have the number written on the back of the work phone in case anyone asks me for it.

OldMrBrennan83

hussey wrote: »

A work phone is property of your employer, which means all communication is also property of your employer, if things ever go south, they can take it back, with all your personal communication on it.
It's always a good idea to separate your personal life from your work life.

A good pin and a factory reset.

The high horse brigade

Work gave me an iPhone6, I hated every minute I had with it. I find iOS horribly restrictive and clunky. Within 6 months I had given it to my daughter and gone dual SIM Android. I have it set to disable my work SIM every evening at 5.30. I also mostly ignore emails I receive after 5.30, if I reply I schedule it to send at 7.30AM

KERSPLAT!

biko wrote: »

I feel more important when I put two phones on the table than just one.

Like a drug dealer

mr_edge_to_you

I'm another with 2 phones. I much prefer it that way. Primarily, it allows me to separate work and personal lives.

It can be an inconvenience during the week carrying two phones but I think it's a small price to pay.

I recently bought a new Nokia phone with dual SIM for myself to replace an iPhone. I love it but I'm not sure about the dual SIM option. Currently I leave my work phone in the kitchen at night and when we're out and about I leave it the car or at home. In theory setting the SIM to inactive during these times is the same thing but I take comfort knowing that the phone is physically out of reach.

OldMrBrennan83

I still can't fathom how people need two phones or even two sims to separate personal and work.

kippy

Patww79 wrote: »

I still can't fathom how people need two phones or even two sims to separate personal and work.

There are a few things at play depending on the environment you work in.

I'd always advise having two separate phones for a few key reasons:
1. Many workplaces have MDM technology on phones which can limit the functionality of the phone, as well as limit and monitor internet and application access.
2. Some workplaces have limitatations on roaming/Data Usage or policies around requesting temporary changes to packages.
3. I have seen instances where people have gotten into bother for giving their phone to their kid and the kid inadvertently replying to an email/text. In one case there was a reply to all mail that went to over 4k recipients!
4. You may be limited by phone model and/or the ability of your workplace to change phones on a regular basis.
5. Similar to 3, I have seen instances where phones are dropped or damaged or lost and the time taken for a new device can be weeks. While on the other side of it your personal and work contacts may reside within your work contact store and not be accessible on a temporary device.
6. If you move jobs a lot you'll find having two separate numbers makes this far easier, instead of having to port every time.

All of the above pieces of rationale vary from organisation to organisation and with the technical literacy or the user.

listermint

Dual SIM.


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Avatar MIA

Have always transferred my private phone and number to work. But, I'm not customer facing and only very rarely get work calls after hours. One was when our IT system got hacked (someone clicked on a link) and was happy to manage it with our IT contractor.

But, I do love my telephone number, it's ridiculously simple and I would hate to lose it if I left on bad terms. But would risk it rather than have a second phone.

Staplor

I've 2 phones, I tend to be in early and leave early, I turn the work phone off after work. I would always check work email around 6pm and 8pm on personal phone, using the webmail logon, they went ahead and brought in 2 factor authentication, which put an end to that. Now they get less work out of me. I'm ok with that.

abarkie

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Would like a dual SIM phone sometimes but they're hard to get unless you buy online at full price generally (currently using an S9+ but a dual-Sim Note 9 could be good)

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057903905

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057892570

These 2 threads will give you all the information you need

abarkie

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I have it set to disable my work SIM every evening at 5.30. I also mostly ignore emails I receive after 5.30, if I reply I schedule it to send at 7.30AM

Is that a phone setting or using an app to set the timing?

scurnane

I ported my personal number to my work phone. I think I've only ever received calls from work on two occasions which were outside business hours, so not as bad as some experiences mentioned here.
Regarding emails, I just disable email notifications from 5pm to 8am.

Wanderer78

Patww79 wrote:

I still can't fathom how people need two phones or even two sims to separate personal and work.

Tis common enough, and a good idea from time to time.

I believe the German parliament was recently trying to pass a bill, preventing employers from contacting employees via electronic methods, outside of working hours, unsure how successful this was, maybe we need a similar bill?

Wanderer78

Mr.S wrote:

That’s just a **** employer taking the piss.

You d be surprised how many employers couldn't give a rats arse about taking the piss

listermint

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This.

Being carrying 2 phones for a decade now. Also saves hassle of work security policies being enforced on your phone, potential arguing over bills, and you can move networks if you want to.

Would like a dual SIM phone sometimes but they're hard to get unless you buy online at full price generally (currently using an S9+ but a dual-Sim Note 9 could be good)

All one plus phones are dual SIM.

They are not hard to get at all.

Samsung even do dual sims