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Jobseekers between College years

  • 17-01-2019 8:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭


    Can you get Jobseekers Allowance during the Summer in between College years?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Prince William


    Once apon a time yes but that loophole was closed about 25 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    5tuck wrote: »
    Can you get Jobseekers Allowance during the Summer in between College years?

    you can if you are a mature student. Also, if you have completed a course and starting a new course the following year.
    Example: you completed a 2 year certificate course and you were going onto a new 1 year degree course.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    5tuck wrote: »
    Can you get Jobseekers Allowance during the Summer in between College years?

    Jobseekers Allowance claims between academic years possible only if you are a mature student (over 23 on or before the 1st January of the year in which the course commenced) or on Back to Education Allowance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭5tuck


    Balagan1 wrote: »
    Jobseekers Allowance claims between academic years possible only if you are a mature student

    I'm a mature student
    Once apon a time yes but that loophole was closed about 25 years ago.

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    5tuck wrote: »
    I'm a mature student



    :confused:

    If your getting BTEA then you can get JSA during the summer but that’s it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Assuming you're not disabled, there's no shortage of summer work in this country.
    It would look better on your CV too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,435 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Pkiernan wrote:
    Assuming you're not disabled, there's no shortage of summer work in this country. It would look better on your CV too.

    You d be surprised how burnt out you d be after a few months of college, summer breaks can be needed to reset before the next term


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭AryaStark


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    You d be surprised how burnt out you d be after a few months of college, summer breaks can be needed to reset before the next term

    I worked through college - a degree and a masters!!! Full time college and part time work which turned to full time during the summer.
    Bit of a cop out saying you need to recharge your batteries - what about when you get a job and times are busy or you have a deadline that is challenging... you don't get to take a few months off to relax!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Klonker


    I'd try get a job first OP. It's in the name jobseekers, you are only supposed to receive if genuinely looking for a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    You d be surprised how burnt out you d be after a few months of college, summer breaks can be needed to reset before the next term

    I'd be incredibly surprised alright....


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    The issue, tbf to the OP with suggesting they get summer work is that their entitlement to BTEA is based off them not working. It's a ridiculous system that might end up pricing the OP out of returning to better themselves in line of getting full time employment on finishing college.

    As per welfare.ie:

    Since 2015, if you are a new BTEA applicant and you were getting a jobseeker's payment, Farm Assist, a One-Parent Family Payment or a Jobseeker's Transitional payment, you must re-establish your entitlement to a primary payment to continue to be entitled to BTEA for the second or subsequent years of study.

    And also....

    For third-level courses you must have been getting a qualifying social welfare payment (see above) for 9 months (234 paid or credited days of unemployment). You must be getting the qualifying payment immediately before you start the course. For the Professional Masters in Education, you must have been getting a qualifying social welfare payment for 12 months (312 paid or credited days of unemployment.

    It's incredibly stupid tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,435 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    AryaStark wrote: »
    I worked through college - a degree and a masters!!! Full time college and part time work which turned to full time during the summer.
    Bit of a cop out saying you need to recharge your batteries - what about when you get a job and times are busy or you have a deadline that is challenging... you don't get to take a few months off to relax!

    i was doing a degree part time and working full time a few years ago, if i kept going, i would have had a break down, i was glad of the years traveling after the fact, as i was burnt out. we all dont experience the world in the same way, the same approaches may not work for others, spare a thought for these others, maybe we should reconsider holiday times from our working environments, maybe people do need more time off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    AryaStark wrote: »
    I worked through college - a degree and a masters!!! Full time college and part time work which turned to full time during the summer.
    Bit of a cop out saying you need to recharge your batteries - what about when you get a job and times are busy or you have a deadline that is challenging... you don't get to take a few months off to relax!

    You so cray cray


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    splinter65 wrote: »
    If your getting BTEA then you can get JSA during the summer but that’s it.

    From your posts, I get the impression that you worked in or are working in the department for 16 years yet the information you give out is often incorrect.

    Sometimes its perfect but often it wrong.

    Taken for JSA operational guidelines:

    From 28th June 2011 - Mature students for example persons over 23 years of age on or before 1st January in the year in which the course of study commences are exempt from the student disqualification for the period in between academic years only. The student disqualification applies during the academic year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭emilymemily


    As far as I know, its not permitted. Going by my own experience, my local social welfare are horrifically bad at giving the correct information on entitlements and can barely do their job right but when I was in college they wouldn't allow me to get social welfare during Summer holidays, I had to wait until third year when I completed my level 7, I had to get a letter from the college admissions office to state I had completed the course and was no longer a student there, only this was sufficient enough for them to let me sign on. I got a place in 4th year of college so decided to go back and do my level 8 but if I had been given the place in 4th year before getting my letter from admissions I would not have been allowed sign on in the Summer between third and fourth year, as I hadnt been allowed to any other year. - I was also a mature student at the time and was getting the full Susi grant for the college term which roughly 250/300 a month from September to May and no other income or financial support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    From 28th June 2011 - Mature students i.e. persons over 23 years of age on or before 1st January in the year in which the course of study commences are exempt from the student disqualification for the period in between academic years only . The student disqualification applies during the academic year.
    Prior to 28th June 2011 the student disqualification did not apply to mature students.

    Taken from JSA operational guidelines


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