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A&E Charges

  • 10-01-2019 11:08am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭


    I was hit by a speeding bike and had to go A&E due to injury, bleeding around 8 months back . Was taken on an Ambulance as someone nearby called an Ambulance. A&E sent me a bill of 100 Euro, which I didnt manage to pay yet. I can afford to pay it now. Is there any consequences for delaying the payment?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    ewiz9 wrote: »
    I was hit by a speeding bike and had to go A&E due to injury, bleeding around 8 months back . Was taken on an Ambulance as someone nearby called an Ambulance. A&E sent me a bill of 100 Euro, which I didnt manage to pay yet. I can afford to pay it now. Is there any consequences for delaying the payment?

    Get the person that hit you to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    None

    They might farm it to a debt collection firm who will write scary sounding letters but they have no ability to actually do anything so throw those in the bin and ignore them and pay the fee directly to the hospital when you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    ^^^this is bad advice. never hide your head in the sand.

    If you cannot afford the charge call the hospital and explain. offer to pay a small sum per week/month until cleared. just don't ignore it.

    You availed of the service and the hospitals budgets are overstretched as things are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The €100 is a standard A&E charge for non-medical card holders.

    There's no specific consequences for delaying payment, but if you can afford it, why not pay it?

    Although, as said above, this cost should be covered by the biker's insurance, assuming that you're claiming from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭oLoonatic


    I presume you mean if you go to pay will they charge extra. No they wont.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    The poster is quite clearly not trying to delay the payment, they say that they already did delay it but can pay it now and want to know if there is any issue given that they delayed.

    No OP, there isnt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    OP is obliged to pay the charge unless they hold a medical card or have a referral letter from a G.P. - neither of those seem to apply here.

    OP should discharge the account and include it in his claim against the other party if they are at fault.

    BTW, for A & E charge purposes does a G.P. only card excuse you from the fee ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭ewiz9


    ....... wrote: »
    The poster is quite clearly not trying to delay the payment, they say that they already did delay it but can pay it now and want to know if there is any issue given that they delayed.

    No OP, there isnt.

    Yup. That was my question.
    Also may I check, if my credit score is affected because of this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭ewiz9


    Get the person that hit you to pay.


    Didnt manage to get the guy's contact number. Cost me 100 Euro at AE and 50 Euro for new pair of eyeglass which was broken :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    ewiz9 wrote: »
    Yup. That was my question.
    Also may I check, if my credit score is affected because of this?

    No it is not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    ewiz9 wrote: »
    Didnt manage to get the guy's contact number. Cost me 100 Euro at AE and 50 Euro for new pair of eyeglass which was broken :(

    Was this a pedal cyclist or a motor cyclist ?

    If the latter did this happen in a public place ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭ewiz9


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    Was this a pedal cyclist or a motor cyclist ?

    If the latter did this happen in a public place ?

    Pedal Cyclist.. I was at the busstop (on a slope) waiting for bus. Not obstructing the cycle track. He came and hit me from the back.
    It was in a public space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    ewiz9 wrote: »
    Pedal Cyclist.. I was at the busstop (on a slope) waiting for bus. Not obstructing the cycle track. He came and hit me from the back.
    It was in a public space.

    You shouldn't have let that go.

    He injured you and damaged property.

    Any way you would come across him again or did you contact Gardai?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭notsoyoungwan


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    BTW, for A & E charge purposes does a G.P. only card excuse you from the fee ?

    No, GP visit cards don’t cover the A&E charge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    No, GP visit cards don’t cover the A&E charge.

    But if you are referred to A&E by your GP then its a GP Referral and the charge is waived isnt it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Shamboo1801


    ewiz9 wrote:
    I was hit by a speeding bike and had to go A&E due to injury, bleeding around 8 months back . Was taken on an Ambulance as someone nearby called an Ambulance. A&E sent me a bill of 100 Euro, which I didnt manage to pay yet. I can afford to pay it now. Is there any consequences for delaying the payment?


    My daughter was in hospital for 8 nights and I got a letter from a debt collection agency looking for payment, bill had never reached me. I contacted the hospital direct and set up a payment plan. They were extremely helpful and even contacted the debt collection agency to tell them stop sending me letters. Payed it off over a number of weeks. No problems at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    You shouldn't have let that go.

    He injured you and damaged property.

    Any way you would come across him again or did you contact Gardai?

    Since the OP was on the ground after getting knocked down and the cyclist presumably never stopped, they will have problems identifying the person who hit them from behind.

    If bicycles had some type of plate attached to the rear which had a unique number the OP could trace the alleged culprit of the hit and run, but apparently it's not possible to attach these things to bicycles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Since the OP was on the ground after getting knocked down and the cyclist presumably never stopped, they will have problems identifying the person who hit them from behind.

    If bicycles had some type of plate attached to the rear which had a unique number the OP could trace the alleged culprit of the hit and run, but apparently it's not possible to attach these things to bicycles.

    Please don't be so condescending.,..

    You don't know that so please don't speak down to me like that.

    If a person hurts another then they are liable and a civil action can be taken.

    I was hit by a cyclist just before Christmas in town.

    I was on the footpath and as there was a tree and a bus stop pole both of us weren't going to fit through.

    He ended up meeting my shoulder which sent him and the bike flying....

    I genuinely was crying with laughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭billcullen1


    ^^^this is bad advice. never hide your head in the sand.

    If you cannot afford the charge call the hospital and explain. offer to pay a small sum per week/month until cleared. just don't ignore it.

    You availed of the service and the hospitals budgets are overstretched as things are.

    What happens if you ask for a breakdown of the bill and the hospital refuses to provide it. Once the bill is paid by you, you only get the breakdown of the charges from the health provider after its paid. is this normal procedure, how can the patient not the get the total bill prior to payment ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,642 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    What happens if you ask for a breakdown of the bill and the hospital refuses to provide it. Once the bill is paid by you, you only get the breakdown of the charges from the health provider after its paid. is this normal procedure, how can the patient not the get the total bill prior to payment ?

    The A+E charge is a single charge that covers the entire visit and any follow-up. The breakdown is a single line item.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭notsoyoungwan


    ....... wrote: »
    But if you are referred to A&E by your GP then its a GP Referral and the charge is waived isnt it?

    Yeah- that applies whether you’ve a GP visit card or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    ewiz9 wrote: »
    Pedal Cyclist.. I was at the busstop (on a slope) waiting for bus. Not obstructing the cycle track. He came and hit me from the back.
    It was in a public space.

    Sorry to hear that as it seems that you are left without recourse.

    Probably a moot point but do you have health insurance ? If so, that should cover this item.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Just taking this in a different direction as the OP seems to have got advice on the original issue. Would such an incident be an assault?

    "A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly..."

    Does plowing into someone on the footpath constitute recklessness to the standard required?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Just taking this in a different direction as the OP seems to have got advice on the original issue. Would such an incident be an assault?

    "A person shall be guilty of the offence of assault who, without lawful excuse, intentionally or recklessly..."

    Does plowing into someone on the footpath constitute recklessness to the standard required?
    Not necessarily; "plowing into someone on the footpath" could be intentional; it could be reckless; it could be negligent; it could even be completely blameless if it's the result of, e.g., sudden malfunction of the vehicle. The nature or gravity of the collision or the injury tells us nothing about the mental state of the people involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Not necessarily; "plowing into someone on the footpath" could be intentional; it could be reckless; it could be negligent; it could even be completely blameless if it's the result of, e.g., sudden malfunction of the vehicle. The nature or gravity of the collision or the injury tells us nothing about the mental state of the people involved.

    But did the cyclist breach the perimeter of the cycle track?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    But did the cyclist breach the perimeter of the cycle track?
    Doesn'r make any difference. Even if he did, that could have been intentional, reckless, negligent or due to sudden equipment failure.


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