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Leaving Job for financial reasons

  • 07-01-2019 7:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭


    I was on the benefit getting 393.00 per week. I took up a job that's half hour drive from my home at beginning of december. It's costing me 80 euros on tolls and petrol everyday and my wife has no car as we live semi rural and I have to take the car.

    my net pay is like 370-390 some weeks and so minus the petrol I'm on less than I should be getting to make a family of myself, wife and two kids to survive.

    I applied for family dividend so I'm getting that which is 63 per week (helps with the petrol at least) but the FIS (family income supplement) the lady told me over the phone because I applied for it prior to Christmas and they're still processing applications from October, that I won't get it for another 4 months. That's wayyyyy off the mark and we are suffering financially.

    What are my options and is the fis backdated?

    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Rackstar


    How did you manage to get 393 a week in benefits?

    Have you any option to earn more doing extra hours or anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    Hold out for the fis of you can. it will be backdated. Takes about ten weeks but you can go to the community welfare officer if your stuck really bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Your back payment of FIS will be 3300.
    Your weekly income will be 380 wages 63 dividend and 210 FIS so 650.
    Beats 393


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Rackstar wrote: »
    How did you manage to get 393 a week in benefits?

    Have you any option to earn more doing extra hours or anything?

    The rate for a man and a partner and 3 kids is
    198 +
    131+
    31.30 x3=
    422


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    What car costs €80 a day on petrol?

    Half hour drive is nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Can you car share ? Change your route to avoid tolls ? Get a cheaper car to run ? (Or even a moped??? )

    As others have said, hold tough for the FIS as that'll make a difference. On top of that, once you're back in employment it could give you options to either move up the ladder where you are or move on to a better position.

    Finally, call in to your local revenue office and make sure you're getting all of your tax allowances. They're brilliant in there and will advise you on everything that you can claim for. It all makes a difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    Do you mean 80 a week for petrol on tolls? 80 a day is 400 a week which would leave you in the red.

    Best of luck figuring out what’s best for you. Factor in personal development and possible future pay increases to any decisions you make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Westwood


    Must be a ****ing lambo you're driving to work for 80 squids a day.. Gowan out of that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Surely an error on 80 a day for a half hour each way drive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    I’d bet you €80 is his weekly rate, it’s just a typo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭treascon


    A lot of people spending €80 per week on commuting costs and they ain’t coming home with anything near 650! Sorry but this country is a joke when it comes to the social welfare system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    treascon wrote: »
    A lot of people spending €80 per week on commuting costs and they ain’t coming home with anything near 650! Sorry but this country is a joke when it comes to the social welfare system


    What has 650 got to do with anything ? He said it can be 370 to 390 Nett...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭eurokev


    treascon wrote:
    A lot of people spending €80 per week on commuting costs and they ain’t coming home with anything near 650! Sorry but this country is a joke when it comes to the social welfare system


    We really are screwed come the next downturn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    What has 650 got to do with anything ? He said it can be 370 to 390 Nett...

    When the FIS kicks in his weekly income will be 650.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    splinter65 wrote: »
    When the FIS kicks in his weekly income will be 650.

    Don't forget to take into account his 3 dependents, his wife and two kids... It's not like he's taking home 650 to squander ffs :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭The Darkroom


    Hi Lads, sorry typo there 80 a week not a day. The FIS remember is only for 57 weeks so with 3 dependents and only a year on FIS it's hardly the life.

    However I do think the Social is a joke though. I think they punish people for going out to work. No sick pay or nothing but a man can be sick a week and still his moneys there for him in the post office. Get sick at work? Too bad for you and you don't get free medical.

    They need to stop rewarding people who are on the social for once. There's no incentive to work. I took the job because the dignity of having one does outweigh sitting at home going nuts. I even took it a week before knowing the Christmas bonus was coming simply because a decent job is hard to come by these days and so I always take into account the long term benefits but man is it a struggle waiting on that FIS coming in.

    I've taken your advice on board though gonna see what can be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Hi Lads, sorry typo there 80 a week not a day. The FIS remember is only for 57 weeks so with 3 dependents and only a year on FIS it's hardly the life.

    However I do think the Social is a joke though. I think they punish people for going out to work. No sick pay or nothing but a man can be sick a week and still his moneys there for him in the post office. Get sick at work? Too bad for you and you don't get free medical.

    They need to stop rewarding people who are on the social for once. There's no incentive to work. I took the job because the dignity of having one does outweigh sitting at home going nuts. I even took it a week before knowing the Christmas bonus was coming simply because a decent job is hard to come by these days and so I always take into account the long term benefits but man is it a struggle waiting on that FIS coming in.

    I've taken your advice on board though gonna see what can be done.

    No. If your still on the same low wage after a year then your FIS is renewed. Ad nauseum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    laoisgem wrote: »
    Don't forget to take into account his 3 dependents, his wife and two kids... It's not like he's taking home 650 to squander ffs :rolleyes:

    Wife and 3 kids. How much would a guy with no SW have to earn gross to take hone €650?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭youandme13


    He only has two children 😠I’m sure you also get help with rent or house expenses too so that counts and if your wife is at home you don’t need to pay for childcare! I’m on a lot less than that and I can’t get the FIS and have to pay for afterschool Care just to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    youandme13 wrote: »
    He only has two children 😠I’m sure you also get help with rent or house expenses too so that counts and if your wife is at home you don’t need to pay for childcare! I’m on a lot less than that and I can’t get the FIS and have to pay for afterschool Care just to work.

    Why can you get fis if your on a lot less?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    splinter65 wrote: »
    When the FIS kicks in his weekly income will be 650.


    That won't come to €650 as far as I can see. Partner and two kids by my rough reckoning will come to around 520.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    That won't come to €650 as far as I can see. Partner and two kids by my rough reckoning will come to around 520.

    Sorry I saw 3 kids. The entire weekly income with 2 kids will be 590. That’s FIS, wages. and BTWFD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    This is what's wrong with the country- a huge cohort believe there's a choice between living a life on welfare (lots of people out there would love more family time) vs living honestly and earning your living. It's shocking that some one not in a job a wet week would choose to jack it in and try go back on welfare.
    Luckily you can't just quit a job and go back on welfre, there's a wait period and they will ask why you left the employmnet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭The Darkroom


    road_high wrote: »
    This is what's wrong with the country- a huge cohort believe there's a choice between living a life on welfare (lots of people out there would love more family time) vs living honestly and earning your living. It's shocking that some one not in a job a wet week would choose to jack it in and try go back on welfare.
    Luckily you can't just quit a job and go back on welfre, there's a wait period and they will ask why you left the employmnet.

    Yeah but if there's good reason to go back on it and pick something better then more power to the person just doing what he can to survive. It's different though for those who just get back on the welfare simply because they don't like the job they're in.

    In my opinion the system encourages people to remain on welfare. The only people I can see not wanting to live a life on welfare are single unmarried people with no kids as they're only gonna get 180 euros a week so there is more incentive to get any kind of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭FelaniaMump


    Why is having just enough to feed and house your children a bad thing? Whats wrong with this country is that he earns so little, not that we keep his kids out of abject poverty by topping up his low wage. That is what is right with this country!
    Whatever your feelings on welfare, do you actually want this man to be able to feed his children or not? Because on 380 a week minus expenses like petrol, he can't do that.


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