Is this what people aspire to ?

Heckler

The man can spend his money on whatever he wants. If a **** looking watch is his thing and he can afford it go for it. A fool and his money are soon parted. Salesman is laughing at him behind his comission.

The ****ing ego to make a video about it.

bear1

His money, can do what he wants from It.

Lackey

Sure he can’t bring it with him
He’s worked for it, he’s earned it (I assume)
Why not spend it on something he he wants.

sk8erboii

‘Wtf why is he doing what he want with his money? This is unacceptable AAAAH’

Heckler

bear1 wrote: »

His money, can do what he wants from It.

Thats what I said.

Why make a video about it ?

sk8erboii

Heckler wrote: »

Thats what I said.

Why make a video about it ?

‘KSI reportedly earns £2.9 million ($4.5m) a year through his work as a YouTuber,’

Are you really that dense?

Wibbs

Speaking as a bit of a watch fan and previous collector(before the prices for vintage stuff went daft), if I had the money, I might see spending that on an extremely rare, historically important and finely made vintage piece, or a totally handmade from every gear to the hands and face from the ground up new example, but for that kinda bling? Nope. But it's his money so fair enough.

Taste varies a lot and watches have become jewellery for men. The Arab market for example goes mad for levels of tacky that would blind you, certain sections of Black culture similarly. I can understand the latter far more TBH. If a guy comes from a crappy inner city background and makes it in the world the natural tendency is to show that off, and fair enough. Plus the chances of him being exposed to a more classical aesthetic would be low enough and if he were, could well be written off as pretentious by his peers. Never mind that a steel cased one off Patek from the 1940's that could cost that wouldn't look expensive. Which is the whole point.

EG this steel cased Patek chronograph made eleven million quid at auction.



Daft. Then again that's a very rarified market with trust and hedge fund types looking to wave their willies among their peers and for "investment" purposes. Such pieces rarely stay with owners for long. It's gone like the art market too, so full of shady types. You could walk through any airport in the world wearing the above on a nylon strap and would be very unlikely to be stopped by customs, so a handy way of moving money around. Well maybe not that one, as it would be hard to sell because it's too well known, but less well known watches in the half a mil price range in steel you could.

begbysback

Heckler wrote: »

Thats what I said.

Why make a video about it ?

For the money?

kneemos

sk8erboii wrote: »

‘KSI reportedly earns £2.9 million ($4.5m) a year through his work as a YouTuber,’

Are you really that dense?

Can't imagine how. Incredibly annoying.

Heckler

sk8erboii wrote: »

‘KSI reportedly earns £2.9 million ($4.5m) a year through his work as a YouTuber,’

Are you really that dense?

Not as dense as the dumb cnuts who watch the dopes videos. It popped up as a trending video so I clicked on it. I have no idea who this guy is.

sk8erboii

Heckler wrote: »

Not as dense as the dumb cnuts who watch the dopes videos.

Yikes. Imagine begruding someone for being rich and famous. What part of the crab in the bucket country are you from? Limerick?

Canis Lupus

I hope he has bodyguards because I couldn't see someone wearing that for long in London without getting mugged.

bazz26

money cannot buy you class.

James Bond Junior

sk8erboii wrote: »

Yikes. Imagine begruding someone for being rich and famous. What part of the crab in the bucket country are you from? Limerick?

Why say Limerick?

dhaughton99

Could be worse. He could be shoving bangers up a cats arse or flying drones over airports. It’s his cash money.

bear1

Heckler wrote: »

Thats what I said.

Why make a video about it ?

If it bothers so you much... Why did you watch it? You know he earns money when people view his channel so you're being a tad hypocritical.

artanevilla

Heckler wrote: »

Not as dense as the dumb cnuts who watch the dopes videos. It popped up as a trending video so I clicked on it. I have no idea who this guy is.

You watched the dopes video.

Wibbs

bazz26 wrote: »

money cannot buy you class.

It almost always does. Money + education + time = "class". PLus as I say what is seen as classy varies across cultures and subcultures. For example in much of American culture conspicuous consumption is how one telegraphs class and success. In other cultures understated elegance does the same thing. Even within American culture the very old money goes the understated elegance route, while in other subcultures otherwise cheap but functional stuff rules. IIRC Bill Gates wears a 100 quid Casio or similar.

Raheem Euro

Is this a wind up?

no, battery operated

nthclare

sk8erboii wrote: »

Yikes. Imagine begruding someone for being rich and famous. What part of the crab in the bucket country are you from? Limerick?

Limerick you're a lady.....

Keane's in Limerick is great for buying watches, bought a g-shock an omega and a tissot there this year...

Sure I might as well post about it

Heckler

Olajide William "JJ" Olatunji, better known as KSI, is a British YouTube personality, internet celebrity, comedian, actor, rapper and white-collar boxer.

Heckler

bear1 wrote: »

If it bothers so you much... Why did you watch it? You know he earns money when people view his channel so you're being a tad hypocritical.

I had no idea this is how he makes his living. Just a casual click on a youtube trending video. Know that I know I won't make the same mistake again.

Heckler

artanevilla wrote: »

You watched the dopes video.

1 video. As a casual click on a youtube trending video to see what the fuss was about. I may be caught once. Won't happen again.

Balanadan

Wibbs wrote: »

It almost always does. Money + education + time = "class". PLus as I say what is seen as classy varies across cultures and subcultures. For example in much of American culture conspicuous consumption is how one telegraphs class and success. In other cultures understated elegance does the same thing. Even within American culture the very old money goes the understated elegance route, while in other subcultures otherwise cheap but functional stuff rules. IIRC Bill Gates wears a 100 quid Casio or similar.

Understated elegance or cheap but functional is the best.

Conchir

I don't see what your issue is. Enough people out there find his videos entertaining that advertisers think it's worth paying him for ads, and he makes (part of) his living off this. I'm sure there's things you're interested in watching on YouTube that plenty of others aren't, same with me and everyone else here. People aren't "dense" or "dumb cnuts" just for watching videos you're not interested in. Why begrudge them?

Mickeroo

Heckler wrote: »

Not as dense as the dumb cnuts who watch the dopes videos. It popped up as a trending video so I clicked on it. I have no idea who this guy is.

Why promote the video then?

1800_Ladladlad

OP, alot of inward looking needs to be done here ffs. Why does it bother you. Its not your cash! What did you watch the video? You added to the channels figures (which a poster just mentioned how they make a year). You continued to watch the video and then created a thread on here, inadvertently promoting the video . Its what people do these days, especially the younger crowd. In saying that, it makes us sound like older c*nts but society and how it progresses moves at a alarming rate. Just because we detest something doesn't mean its dire or needs to be put down. You droned on about it while promoting it, getting it clicks and views ffs

bazz26

Wibbs wrote: »

It almost always does. Money + education + time = "class". PLus as I say what is seen as classy varies across cultures and subcultures. For example in much of American culture conspicuous consumption is how one telegraphs class and success. In other cultures understated elegance does the same thing. Even within American culture the very old money goes the understated elegance route, while in other subcultures otherwise cheap but functional stuff rules. IIRC Bill Gates wears a 100 quid Casio or similar.

Well to me class is something that comes from within, it's not something tangible that can be acquired through the likes of wealth.

Wibbs

Balanadan wrote: »

Understated elegance or cheap but functional is the best.

I dunno B, personally I do like something that's a little more than functional, something that has craft to it, or history. The story of humans is one where art and craft and "beauty" is to the fore. It's part of what makes us human. I mean here's a basic tool a spear thrower from the old Stone Age.


It would be perfectly functional without the carving(which would have taken many many hours with flint tools), but the owner wanted more than function. Its a very human want.

Wibbs

bazz26 wrote: »

Well to me class is something that comes from within, it's not something tangible that can be acquired through the likes of wealth.

But it is B. If you were born in a valley in Papua New Guinea what would "come from within" would be entirely formed by that culture around you, just as what aesthetic you hold now is formed by the culture and subculture you grew up in and were exposed to. It's an extremely subjective thing.

sheesh

guys, he makes his living making youtube videos if he makes a video about buying the watch it becomes a tax deductible expense if he is making a over a million a year he essentially gets the watch at a much reduced price!

Wibbs

If he's even actually buying it. Quite a bit of the youtube stuff is thinly veiled advertising and sponsorship.

€200k on a watch? So many shades of nouveau riche there. Cringe. A cultural, educational and ethical wasteland. You wouldn't find the Chuck Feeneys of the world going on like that - Feeney, despite his billions, famously only wore a $10 Casio watch reasoning that it told the same time as a Rolex - never mind educated people. You wouldn't bother wasting time explaining things to this sort of person, though, plenty of whom were a blight on Ireland about 2006 and still exist here.

So, yeah, to parrot the mantra: let him spend as he wishes. Just don't expect it to translate into respect for his values.

sk8erboii

sk8erboii wrote: »

Yikes. Imagine begruding someone for being rich and famous. What part of the crab in the bucket country are you from? Limerick?

Calling somebody who is a cultureless wasteland a cultureless wasteless is not, by any understanding of the English language, begrudging. Unless, of course, there is a section of society which aspires to be in that class of society.

You do know that if you want to be rich you could aspire to be rich and have a bit of class?

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

It almost always does. Money + education + time = "class".

Watching that arch howaya Conor McGregor speed away in a BMW with tinted windows from a court in Dublin after his twelfth road traffic offence recently, I suggest if this is true it's going to take an awful amount of time, and education, for him to be even conscious of how embarrassingly nouveau riche he is.

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

Watching that arch howaya Conor McGregor speed away in a BMW with tinted windows from a court in Dublin after his twelfth road traffic offence recently, I suggest if this is true it's going to take an awful amount of time, and education, for him to be even conscious of how embarrassingly nouveau riche he is.

True F though the time bit is more generational. Depends on the background culture too of course. The Arab oil billionaire of today is likely wearing things like watches that to his grandparents would have been considered an affront to god in their wasteful ostentation and worship of mammon.

Cultural aesthetics and "class" and how we view even simple objects varies a lot. One example might be stuff that gets broken. In the West, especially since consumerism really dug in like a tick, broken, even old things are discarded, whereas in Japan there was a culture of repair, even veneration of the beauty of the old and broken summed up in the practice of Kintsugi, where old plates, pots and the like that broke were repaired in the most elegant way and often much more costly way than simply replacing them.

Here that would have gone into a skip followed by a trip to Ikea to replace it. I know which one I'd rather have.

Another aspect is how a culture or individuals come into wealth where they had none before. Your example of the Celtic Tiger nonsense a good one F. During that time I was in people's houses which were stuffed with the latest and the greatest and as pricy as their credit could stand. Half the time I expected to find price tags still on the various items. Though wouldn't have required them as most of the time people would regale their audience with what stuff cost. Thing is in nearly every single case these folks had come from very little, some came from real deprivation. Nothing in their lives was more than a few years old as they had nothing handed down to them as there was nothing to hand down. Then they seemed to be living the "millionaire lifestyle" and I could see the appeal of them celebrating that TBH, however ultimately empty it was and remains.

sk8erboii

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Calling somebody who is a cultureless wasteland a cultureless wasteless is not, by any understanding of the English language, begrudging. Unless, of course, there is a section of society which aspires to be in that class of society.

You do know that if you want to be rich you could aspire to be rich and have a bit of class?

Reread what you just wrote. Now tell it to someone in real life.

893bet

Meh. It’s all relative to income.

To some people buying a take away coffee is pure waste of money.

To others a new car is crazy due to depreciation.

Different strokes for different horses.

I have spent more on watches than most people. In excess of my income. Some “friends” raise their eyebrows and think I am crazy.

Yet 2013 car is worth the same this year as last pretty much. My watch collection has appreciated by 10% conservatively this year while my friends pay large PCP on depreciating assets.

Just different perspectives.

Wibbs

893bet wrote: »

Yet 2013 car is worth the same this year as last pretty much. My watch collection has appreciated by 10% conservatively this year while my friends pay large PCP on depreciating assets.

Just different perspectives.

There's that too 89. Hell my car is worth more than I paid for it, which is a rare thing to be able to say. I'd reckon my watch collection is now worth many multiples of what I paid in the first place, though to be fair that wasn't some brilliant plan on my part it was because I was buying them long before the interwebs made collecting them a thing and explode in "value".

Capt'n Midnight

Part of it is 'disposable income'.

It's not like the money spend on that watch would be needed by yer mean to put food on the table.

Other cultures are about reciprocal gift giving or sharing of centrally controlled assets. So that in hard times people will be more likely to help you.

Our culture is about a few amassing resources because they don't need favours from anyone. just eight men own the same wealth as the poorest half of the world

Church on Tuesday

begbysback wrote: »

For the money?

For the views.

Beasty

Wibbs wrote: »

.

EG this steel cased Patek chronograph made eleven million quid at auction.

Is it still stuck at 10 past 10? - they all seem to get stuck then



:pac:

Wibbs

Beasty wrote: »

Is it still stuck at 10 past 10? - they all seem to get stuck then



:pac:

Jesus! as you wrote that mine read 11:10. Maybe it's stuck too.

Meh, billionaires have a minion that tells them the time, half of them bidding on something like that would never even wind it.

Nermal

sheesh wrote: »

guys, he makes his living making youtube videos if he makes a video about buying the watch it becomes a tax deductible expense if he is making a over a million a year he essentially gets the watch at a much reduced price!

Does he, indeed? It's going to be used wholly and exclusively for the benefit of the trade, is it?

sk8erboii

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Why say Limerick?

My ex is from there

As Wibbs said, it was very possibly a paid advertisement, and him keeping it "in storage" is just them taking it back.

I genuinely envy the choices the extremely wealthy have. I'd love to be able to research and buy antique watches etc. that would go completely unnoticed, but I'd know what they were.

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

As Wibbs said, it was very possibly a paid advertisement, and him keeping it "in storage" is just them taking it back.

That goes on quite a bit alright. I remember reading of some rap guys in the States who were the next big thing™ spots on all the right shows and media outlets, tours of their MTV Cribs where the magic happens© with the dayglo Lamborghinis and Bentleys, and then they didn't sell. Fast forward a year and all the bling was gone, all had been owned or loaned out by the record company and other interested parties. The Instagram youtube generation would be a charm for that.

Actually on the matter of "taste" I recall another programme where the whole MTV Cribs thing was discussed and why so many of said cribs looked more like fancy hotels than homes. One lass noted that many of the folks living in them had come from nothing, had little idea of what luxury was and in the process of becoming rich and famous their most constant exposure to that life were fancy suites in fancy hotels, so when they came to build their own luxury that's what they copied.

I genuinely envy the choices the extremely wealthy have. I'd love to be able to research and buy antique watches etc. that would go completely unnoticed, but I'd know what they were.

God yeah. I'd end up curating my own personal museum filled with all sorts of interesting for me stuff. As it is I live in a cabinet of curiosities. If I had mad money Chester Beatty would have nothin on me.

sheesh

Nermal wrote: »

Does he, indeed? It's going to be used wholly and exclusively for the benefit of the trade, is it?

I haven't a clue!

As someone else pointed out he might not have bought it and it could be just a advertising piece for the jeweler or he could have rented it for the piece. And that would be tax deductable.

I remember a Car Blogger/ motor Journalist Doug De Muro Has a ford GT and alot of the work he gets done to the Car is tax deductable as the car is used on some videos

Agricola

You have to remember too that this kind of stuff is exactly what got him, and other youtubers of his type, to where they are. It's all about the bravado, cock swinging, bling.
Who knows. Maybe the guy does trojan charity work and shovels boatloads of his cash into good causes. But the point is, videos of him visiting sick kids in hospital won't get him clicks. It's videos about buying Lamborghini's, parties in Vegas, and stupidly expensive watches that bring in that youtube money!

Blame the game, not the player.

rmorrissey63

I hope you realize that this is not his only source of income and judging by how little he posts on Youtube, it's more than likely one of his smallest sources of income.

You're also not taking into account investments, brand deals, money he gets from sidemen merchandise, etc. He's also not that much of a spender for someone with that kind of income as I recall him mentioning in one of his old videos that his rent is only a couple hundred $$ a month as he's renting with friends.

In the video, he also mentioned that his watch was an investment so he's literally doing no harm by buying it. As well as flashing it and wearing it off, it appreciates in value over time which is something a lot of watch collectors look for nowadays and sometimes watches can be an extremely profitable investment.