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No heating at home

  • 19-12-2018 8:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭


    Hi all. Since Monday my boiler has broken down and I emailed the agent whom sent down a plumber. The guy said that this boiler is way too old and it's obsolete so he called the landlord right there and she said that she will get it fixed asap.

    So apparent she ordered one from Poland and it's not going to be available till after Christmas possibly new year. Now my mom is sick so is my younger brother who has just had a surgery.

    I keep telling my landlord order one from Ireland why Poland for god sake?? And no response.

    I was wondering can I go to the Gardai about this because she doesn't seem to give a damn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    the gardai won't do anything, maybe get some electric oil radiators or something for the mean time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    the gardai won't do anything, maybe get some electric oil radiators or something for the mean time...

    But he's literally playing with my mom's and brothers life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Have you got an open fire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    Good one call the gardai, keep us updated.

    Is this serious or a troll?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    aaakev wrote: »
    Have you got an open fire?

    I do yes but that's not a fix because I got no freaking hot water


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Is this serious or a troll?

    The Gardai won't want to know.

    The LL has to be given reasonable time to fix or replace.

    It's a bad time to go but they can't have it sorted over night.

    As mentioned get some electrical heaters or a gas heater.

    Of course these aren't ideal but it will hopefully get them through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I do yes but that's not a fix because I got no freaking hot water

    Use a kettle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    I do yes but that's not a fix because I got no freaking hot water

    Use the immersion for hot water and the fire for heat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭lollsangel


    How is he playing with your mum and brothers lifes?

    Have you an open fire you can use? If so light it.

    Either go out and buy a few electric rads or ask the landlord to provide them.

    Even if they had a new boiler in the morning you couldnt be guarnateed it would be even installed this side of xmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I do yes but that's not a fix because I got no freaking hot water

    Are you confused? You said you have no heating in the OP. An open fire produces heat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    aaakev wrote: »
    Use the immersion for hot water and the fire for heat

    Now this is a noob question but what is an immersion and how do I use it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭lollsangel


    aaakev wrote: »
    Use the immersion for hot water and the fire for heat

    Now this is a noob question but what is an immersion and how do I use it?
    Its a switch on the wall near the hot water tank that heats water electrically?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Now this is a noob question but what is an immersion and how do I use it?

    Im guessing you are not from around here. In the hotpress there will be a switch, turn it on but whatever you do remember to turn it off or an Irish mammy will come round and kick your ass....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    aaakev wrote: »
    Im guessing you are not from around here. In the hotpress there will be a switch, turn it on but whatever you do remember to turn it off or an Irish mammy will come round and kick your ass....

    There is no switch near it at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    There is no switch near it at all

    Is it inside the hot press? How old is your house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    But he's literally playing with my mom's and brothers life.

    no, he's not. A boiler has broken on the busiest week for boilers breaking of the year, the landlord has agreed to replace it but has ordered one from poland to save money , you have a fire in your house, possibly electric radiators also and a kettle or immersion to heat water. Nobody will die , you'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    aaakev wrote: »
    Is it inside the hot press? How old is your house?

    The house was built about 17 years ago. I kept telling my landlord to install a switch for it but to this date he hasn't done anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    The house was built about 17 years ago. I kept telling my landlord to install a switch for it but to this date he hasn't done anything

    A minute ago you didn't know what it was?! Id be very surprised if there was none in the house.

    Is there any wires in your hot press around the tank?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    aaakev wrote: »
    A minute ago you didn't know what it was?! Id be very surprised if there was none in the house.

    Is there any wires in your hot press around the tank?

    I'll take a picture and upload now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭lollsangel


    Be very surprised if there is not an immersion or backboiler for water


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    also I see you filed a complaint against your landlord 2 weeks ago when they wanted to inspect the property, perhaps they would have noticed a boiler on its last legs....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    Is there a back boiler in the fireplace, if so, you will have plenty heating with a fire in the hearth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    Here are pictures there is a switch but I turn it on or off it doesn't work.

    https://i.postimg.cc/RZZ8BgPw/DSC-0395.jpg

    https://i.postimg.cc/bN8W6ykC/DSC-0396.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Get some coal, wood and fire lighters or those easy to light logs.

    Away you go and you have heat.

    Leave it burning for an hour or so then open the door up to the hall/landing and open the bedrooms that are used but close everything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    ahh ok youve a gas boiler with instant hot water and thus no immersion, or back boiler.... also the 'old' boiler is definitely under 20 years old .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Here are pictures there is a switch but I turn it on or off it doesn't work.

    https://i.postimg.cc/RZZ8BgPw/DSC-0395.jpg

    https://i.postimg.cc/bN8W6ykC/DSC-0396.jpg

    No switch in them photos they are pumps.


  • Moderators Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    I'm no plumber, but I don't see any sign on an immersion lads. Down off the high horses now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I'm no plumber, but I don't see any sign on an immersion lads. Down off the high horses now

    yeah its a gas boiler with instant water heating id say, modern enough ,

    fireplace and an electric rad are your best bet lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭ninjarambohd


    ahh ok youve a gas boiler with instant hot water and thus no immersion, or back boiler.... also the 'old' boiler is definitely under 20 years old .

    Yeh the boiler broke down in 2012 too the guy who repaired it said this needs to be replaced because its very very old but your landlord refuses and says just buy a part for it. The guy that came in today said its gone obsolete and that no way you can get parts for it. It's an Baxi Luna boiler.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    I'm no plumber, but I don't see any sign on an immersion lads. Down off the high horses now

    Whos on a high horse?? Trying to help out and save a mother and brothers life here....


  • Moderators Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    yeah its a gas boiler with instant water heating id say, modern enough ,

    fireplace and an electric rad are your best bet lad.

    Yup. I'd suggest trying to get the landlord to provide an electric radiator or 2 in the interim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    Here are pictures there is a switch but I turn it on or off it doesn't work.

    https://i.postimg.cc/RZZ8BgPw/DSC-0395.jpg

    https://i.postimg.cc/bN8W6ykC/DSC-0396.jpg

    May be I am not looking at the right switch, but that looks like the switch for the motors that push the hot water around the radiators and hot tank, not an emersion.
    An emersion switch usually have a little red light on the switch to indicate if it is on or off, like the main switch to an electric cooker it would look like


  • Moderators Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    aaakev wrote: »
    Whos on a high horse?? Trying to help out and save a mother and brothers life here....

    Pfff, boiler broken? Just turn on your immersion, get a fire going, and use the back boiler, obvs!! Don't forget to run the gas off the electricity in the mean time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭lollsangel


    aaakev wrote: »
    Whos on a high horse?? Trying to help out and save a mother and brothers life here....

    Pfff, boiler broken? Just turn on your immersion, get a fire going, and use the back boiler, obvs!! Don't forget to run the gas off the electricity in the mean time.
    And what would you suggest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    no, he's not. A boiler has broken on the busiest week for boilers breaking of the year, the landlord has agreed to replace it but has ordered one from poland to save money , you have a fire in your house, possibly electric radiators also and a kettle or immersion to heat water. Nobody will die , you'll be grand.

    But ordering it from Poland creates a feeling of unnecessary delay.

    What would be interesting to know is whether there is a suitable boiler available in stock in Ireland.

    And how fast the plumber could get around to fitting it.

    Because this is a really a let's get it done ASAP job in my opinion.

    So can it be done faster.

    If you were leasing a car and you were told you'd be without heating for the christmas you'd be having war with the leasing company.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Contact landlord and request -

    1- Some form of heater for each room.
    2- Some way of heating water for showering, washing dishes etc.

    Follow up in writing.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This has to be a pi**take.

    OP, if you’re genuine, light the fire. Buy a couple of heaters for bedrooms and boil a kettle for hot water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Pfff, boiler broken? Just turn on your immersion, get a fire going, and use the back boiler, obvs!! Don't forget to run the gas off the electricity in the mean time.

    Got a better suggestion? Op said the new boiler is ordered. Not an ideal situation but what can ya do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    This has to be a pi**take.

    OP, if you’re genuine, light the fire. Buy a couple of heaters for bedrooms and boil a kettle for hot water.

    Why is it a pi**take?????.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    According to the OP there are two sick people in the house.
    They need a little help and understanding from the LL.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    elperello wrote: »
    According to the OP there are two sick people in the house.
    They need a little help and understanding from the LL.

    I don't know about you but it's the running off to some random place in Poland to order up a boiler that's getting me a bit riled up.

    Can't help but feel it makes the job longer then it needs to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Jesus the reactions to the question is disgusting. Why is it necessary to slag off every question. And laugh at people with no heating in December.This forum gets worse by day.

    For hot water, in a lot of houses where there is an open fire you can heat water from that. There is a boiler that will be heated from it. If you are not sure then maybe ring the landlord and see if they can help on this.

    Do you have amy body that you could borrow an electric heater from? These are plug in and could be used for bedrooms for those that are sick.

    Again, can the landlord help on this, maybe they have one to borrow.

    When dealing with the landlord outline your concerns calmly and see can they help.

    If you have an open fire, it will help so start using this. I hope you and your family are okay. It shouldn't be that cold that you are in danger but if people are sick and immobile you need to be more aware and ensure they are wrapped up and safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Where you based OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    Why would the landlord be trying to save money on a boiler, are repairs not tax deductible or only part?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Old diesel wrote: »
    I don't know about you but it's the running off to some random place in Poland to order up a boiler that's getting me a bit riled up.

    Can't help but feel it makes the job longer then it needs to be.

    I'd have no problem with LL ordering from wherever to save a few bob if it was a planned replacement and the old boiler was working. This is different. Leaving a tenant without heating or hot water at this time of year is unacceptable. The onus is clearly on LL to sort this out asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭AlphabetCards


    Some heartless people on this thread. Life is hard enough without landlords making tenants wait 6+ days for a boiler, over christmas.

    I can tell you now, as someone who has had to actually live in these conditions for prolonged periods of time, it is relatively difficult to heat a house on open fires, portable radiators and kettle water without spending an absolute fortune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    imo Landlord should provide 2 or 3 electric convector heaters or a couple of super ser type gas heater until the boiler has been fixed.

    LL may be sourcing the new boiler from Poland because it's not available here or its half the price, who knows, but the tenants need heating in the house.

    in fairness to the 'LL though, even if the new boiler was available here, getting a plumber this week would be very difficult.

    Easiest thing is for 'll to provide another heat source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭bluelamp


    Unfortunately it would be very hard to get a plumber before January anyway.

    One of those little fan heaters upstairs and downstairs will do the trick. You'd probably get one in argos for 15 quid or so. Get the landlord to reimburse you the 30 euro or so.

    I always think it's bad practice to just have one source of hot water. I'd either have an immersion or electric shower too if I were a landlord. Takes the panic off when a boiler breaks down - which isn't uncommon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Some heartless people on this thread. Life is hard enough without landlords making tenants wait 6+ days for a boiler, over christmas.

    I can tell you now, as someone who has had to actually live in these conditions for prolonged periods of time, it is relatively difficult to heat a house on open fires, portable radiators and kettle water without spending an absolute fortune.

    A boiler wouldn't be fitted now even if one had it.

    Isn't it amazing that when one owns their house they have to wait or maybe can't even afford to replace.

    One unfortunately has to make do.

    My mum passed away and we had no heat at home for 2 years.
    It wasn't ideal and we just had to live with it as that's as much as we could do.

    6 days or 2 weeks it's going to be fixed so don't really understand the big issue.

    They are lucky their ll is actually doing anything.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Contact Treshold immediately ask for advise. There's free number 1800 454 454 on their site.

    Urgent: You have heating system not working (particularly in winter).
    Suggested timeframe for urgent repairs: 3-5 days.

    I don’t know what planet people are on if you think getting a boiler replaced in 3 to 5 days is in anyway realistic. You haven’t a hope of getting a plumber organized, him getting a boiler organized and getting it done any quicker than the space of a few weeks. Plumbers are mad busy and don’t really want these jobs at the moment.

    Ordering it from Poland (while a bit mad) will likely make no difference to how long it takes. The boiler will be long arrived here before it’s fitted.


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