Saturday

Francie Barrett

Hereford 2:20 - Ricci's former horse Townshend making a second appearance for Twiston Davies after being dropped back down to a more favourable trip from debut for that stable. Racing off a 130 rating which based on previous Irish form (winner just last year off 139 and 142 over fences in Ireland), today's British rating of just 130 surely gives it a much better chance than the 12/1 that William Hill are offering. I fear John Constable in this race (ran Buvuer Dair to within a length and a half earlier this year), but recent form that that is poor enough so I am disregarding it. Townshend to relish proper good to soft going tomorrow and smash this lot.

Earendil

Think Vision Des Flow (11-1 B365) has a great chance in the 3.05 at Cheltenham..particularly if the rain comes.

Slattsy

Full Glass each way for me in the big un in Cheltenham. I think he would have gone close in at decent race at Haydock lto out before unseating.

He's one of if not the only horse that you could definitely say he has plenty of scope to be better than current mark.

Probably wants softer ground but I see they've had some rain this morning so I'll take a chance.

mirwillbeback

12.10 Protektorat is fancied big time by the Skelton’s today.

Gavin "shels"

Loads of rain in Dublin but what about Cheltenham? We going for the soft grounders

Slattsy

Campeador w/o Geraghty was a bet #hindsight

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

Campeador w/o Geraghty was a bet #hindsight

I backed Sensulano in the last at Cheltenham. Having backed it lto Id noted that Leighton Aspell was due to travel from Hereford to ride it.

All thats changed now.....Barry takes the ride now. :rolleyes:

Confidence diminishing....

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

Full Glass each way for me in the big un in Cheltenham. I think he would have gone close in at decent race at Haydock lto out before unseating.

He's one of if not the only horse that you could definitely say he has plenty of scope to be better than current mark.

Probably wants softer ground but I see they've had some rain this morning so I'll take a chance.

Non runner, ground not soft enough I'd imagine.

Will find the winner of this race!

FatRat

Despite claiming a lot of weight, Baron Alcos second to Charbel looks very good now and he obviously came on from that run since. I think 6 pounds added is fair but I also think he is still better than his rating and he will have come on from his win last month. Frodon probably weighted to reverse the placings but I think Baron can find more when needed.

Great price at 13/2 if you ask me and Frodon is definitely overpriced at 9/1 imo.

Slattsy

Well if the ground is on the good side still i've plumped for what i believe to be one horse that really wants proper good ground - Romain De Senam.

Though i do think Rather Be could be hard to bate here.

Francie Barrett

Newcastle 2:05 - Thought the Irish raider British Art opened up a tad short at 4/1 for this race, which was enough to put me off. But the drift out to 6/1 is the tonic I need to get on here. Winner twice here at just above the current handicap rating, the Irish horses running over UK AW races have to be respected.

Slattsy

2nd horse should have won that, what was the jock doing.

A big Byrony Frost winner, we'll never hear the ****ing end of it now!!

longshotvalue

That is an incredible performance from Frodon.. one of the best I've seen .

Gringo180

Thats up there with Denmans Hennessy win. Astonishing performance.

Gringo180

Slattsy wrote: »

2nd horse should have won that, what was the jock doing.

A big Byrony Frost winner, we'll never hear the ****ing end of it now!!

My god is tat all you can say to witnessing one of the greatest handicap winning performances of all time stop talking out of your pocket.

longshotvalue

Slattsy wrote: »

2nd horse should have won that, what was the jock doing.

A big Byrony Frost winner, we'll never hear the ****ing end of it now!!

If there is an award for the stupidest comment ever on this forum , this has just gone very short in the betting .

FatRat

aidankkk wrote: »

If there is an award for the stupidest comment ever on this forum , this has just gone very short in the betting .

This forum is becoming less and less about the sport and more about stupid comments. Queue the "Will ye liven up, it was a joke"

I think ye might be overplaying that performance a tad though if I'm honest. Fair enough top weight, jumped everything well but the field was nothing to write home about. He did the same and routed them around this time last year at Cheltenham and I backed him for the Ryanair after where he was a different horse. Must be a horse that really goes best fresh.

Slattsy

Gringo180 wrote: »

My god is tat all you can say to witnessing one of the greatest handicap winning performances of all time stop talking out of your pocket.

Slattsy

aidankkk wrote: »

If there is an award for the stupidest comment ever on this forum , this has just gone very short in the betting .

Keep your thong on ffs

Slattsy

Faux outrage galore, must be a few sore heads today, jebuz.

Father Hernandez

Rockpoint v impressive there

NaiveMelodies

Frodon, one of the greats

Slattsy

This Nicholls horse been backed like a good thing all day, interesting to see.

FatRat

Earendil wrote: »

Think Vision Des Flow (11-1 B365) has a great chance in the 3.05 at Cheltenham..particularly if the rain comes.

I like him for this too. Finished ahead of menghli khan back in punchestown. His Aintree run was quite impressive also and has decent course form.8/1 is a great price although this is seriously competitive.

The New One the outsider, put a mark through his last few runs and he'd be favourite. Career must be coming to an end.

Auroras_encore

3.40 Oscar Rose 6/1

madmoose

That Frodon is superb in these handicaps at top weight be he gets found out when he goes back into the top graded races.

TheTorment

TheTorment wrote: »

I backed Sensulano in the last at Cheltenham. Having backed it lto Id noted that Leighton Aspell was due to travel from Hereford to ride it.

All thats changed now.....Barry takes the ride now. :rolleyes:

Confidence diminishing....

I take it back

Auroras_encore

Auroras_encore wrote: »

3.40 Oscar Rose 6/1

Has there ever been a bigger coward to sit on a horse then brennan

Slattsy

TheTorment wrote: »

I take it back

Still one of the best! Lol

lemush

Gringo180 wrote: »

Thats up there with Denmans Hennessy win. Astonishing performance.

Jesus Christ almighty.

Gringo180

lemush wrote: »

Jesus Christ almighty.

When was the last winner of a handicap off 164? Just because he hasnt the profile or stature of the great Denman it doesnt make his performance any lesser? What he did today was one of the best performances you will ever see.

Whiplash85

Native River in Welsh national springs to mind as one of the best.

NaiveMelodies

Gringo180 wrote: »

When was the last winner of a handicap off 164? Just because he hasnt the profile or stature of the great Denman it doesnt make his performance any lesser? What he did today was one of the best performances you will ever see.

I genuinely thought you were taking the piss!
Bizarre.

Gringo180

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

I genuinely thought you were taking the piss!
Bizarre.

Denman 10lbs higher bit give Frodon credit that was one of the best handicap wins youll ever witness

Peintre Celebre

Please, please stop it

NaiveMelodies

Gringo180 wrote: »

Denman 10lbs higher bit give Frodon credit that was one of the best handicap wins youll ever witness

No comparison to Denman. The form of the 174 win worked out very well too.

Excellent performance today, form might frank it but nobody knows if that'll happen. Race hardly as competitive as any of the handicaps ever run at the festival so I'd really struggle to notch it down as one of the best I witnessed!

Joe_ Public

Just watching race back and it’s a terrific performance but to put it up there with the all time handicap victories seems a bit excessive when you go back to Native River and Denman as already mentioned and greats such as Desert Orchid before that. Carvills Hills Welsh National (91 I think) stands out as one of the best for me, giving lumps of weight to gold cup and grand national winners and running them into the ground

Johner

Frodon the new GOAT. He just smashed Cepage and Guitar Pete up.

Gringo180

Just my opinion. He ran and jumped some very good handicappers into the ground and giving them a shed load of weight. You have to remember when he ran in the Ryanair he was having his maybe 7th of 8th race in a hectic season, very tough on a 5/6 year old. If they keep him fresh for the festival he will run a huge race.

Slattsy

This is up there with the 'Kauto Star wasn't a great horse' thread.

I'm glad to have had a part to play in this one.

Some might say I instigated it. Some might say I was an innocent bystander, just minding my own business. Some might say **** off Slattsy ya handsome divil you're a knob. But some might say something.

To pints of stout and prosecco!

Gringo180

Slattsy wrote: »

This is up there with the 'Kauto Star wasn't a great horse' thread.

I'm glad to have had a part to play in this one.

Some might say I instigated it. Some might say I was an innocent bystander, just minding my own business. Some might say **** off Slattsy ya handsome divil you're a knob. But some might say something.

To pints of stout and prosecco!

Come back to me when he wins the Gold Cup hard held.

Auroras_encore

Oh ffs up with denman, he beat cepage and guitar ****ing Pete and the former beats him with a competent jockey on board

Fanny Wank

Well Chief in the old Victor Chandler often gets forgotten. Gave 20lbs to the horse who then won the Ryanair. Think it was off 175 or 176

But I have to agree, Frodon tops them all.....

lemush

Gringo180 wrote: »

When was the last winner of a handicap off 164? Just because he hasnt the profile or stature of the great Denman it doesnt make his performance any lesser? What he did today was one of the best performances you will ever see.

Please stop.

Auroras_encore

Crisp gave red rum 23lb and was just nabbed I bet frodon would have held on Haha

handsfree2

Earendil wrote: »

Think Vision Des Flow (11-1 B365) has a great chance in the 3.05 at Cheltenham..particularly if the rain comes.

He fizzled out like a horse in need of a wind op.

Fanny Wank

https://twitter.com/thespieler/status/1074355147227258882?s=19

Fanny Wank

Interesting thread

https://twitter.com/wayward_lad/status/1074650801929375744?s=19