2019 preseason tournaments

KevIRL

These get underway today with the start of the O Byrne cup. The Dubs have a bye into the semi-final and skip the group stage entirely.

Today
Longford v Wicklow
Laois v meath
Louth v Wexford
Tomorrow
Carlow v westmeath

Poor_old_gill

About f*ckin time.

ProudDUB

Grumble...grumble...grumble...loves all the O'Byrne Cup trips to sunny, sub tropical Portarlington, Enniscorthy & Longford, so I do, so I do....

KevIRL

Walsh cup tomorrow as well. Offaly v laois

KevIRL

KevIRL wrote: »

These get underway today with the start of the O Byrne cup. The Dubs have a bye into the semi-final and skip the group stage entirely.

Today
Longford v Wicklow
Laois v meath
Louth v Wexford
Tomorrow
Carlow v westmeath

Wins for Meath, Wexford and Longford

Fr Tod Umptious

Wete the new rules in play ?

Did anyone see them happen live ?

ProudDUB

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Wete the new rules in play ?

Did anyone see them happen live ?

Colm Parkinson was tweeting from the Laois OBC game yesterday. He seems to be a fan of the new hand pass rule.

TCM

T-Bird wrote:

Not quite true. It is illegal to drive on a hard shoulder on a motorway or on an unbroken yellow line on an N road.

KevIRL wrote:

Walsh cup tomorrow as well. Offaly v laois

That'll be a classic.

goose2005

how does the O'Byrne cup structure work? Louth and Wex are in separate groups, do they get points anyway?

manofwisdom

ProudDUB wrote: »

Colm Parkinson was tweeting from the Laois OBC game yesterday. He seems to be a fan of the new hand pass rule.

I seen the "new hand pass" in action a few years ago in underage preseason tournaments. It caused confusion to already confused officials and players became very frustrated by it all.

Stevecw

manofwisdom wrote: »

I seen the "new hand pass" in action a few years ago in underage preseason tournaments. It caused confusion to already confused officials and players became very frustrated by it all.

It's a terrible rule. Saw it in action over the weekend and it slows the game down so much. Players just turn around and kick the ball backwards to be safe. Or else you get stupid foot passes a few feet across or slightly backwards.
Westmeath put together 2 lovely moves and were in on goal at one stage but got blown up for a 4th handpass. It was the natural obvious way for the player to pass it. No other way he could have got the ball through to the free man.
Ruins the game for me. The other rules seem ok, the mark only happened a couple of times in our game. The sideline kick forward wasn't even noticeable.

The handpass rule must be done away with before the League starts.

I see the Wicklow manager and a Longford player complaining about it today. Also the Carlow manager is very against it.

Here is the Carlow coach Steven Poacher talking about it after the weekends game: https://kclrfanzone.com/audio-steven-poacher-chats-obyrne-cup-and-rule-changes/

manofwisdom

Stevecw wrote: »

It's a terrible rule. Saw it in action over the weekend and it slows the game down so much. Players just turn around and kick the ball backwards to be safe. Or else you get stupid foot passes a few feet across or slightly backwards.
Westmeath put together 2 lovely moves and were in on goal at one stage but got blown up for a 4th handpass. It was the natural obvious way for the player to pass it. No other way he could have got the ball through to the free man.
Ruins the game for me. The other rules seem ok, the mark only happened a couple of times in our game. The sideline kick forward wasn't even noticeable.

The handpass rule must be done away with before the League starts.

I see the Wicklow manager and a Longford player complaining about it today. Also the Carlow manager is very against it.

Here is the Carlow coach Steven Poacher talking about it after the weekends game: https://kclrfanzone.com/audio-steven-poacher-chats-obyrne-cup-and-rule-changes/

I hope it is but i feel those at HQ are too stubborn to do that.

Frozen Veg

Why are these games being played in December?

KevIRL

Over 3500 at the tipp limerick Munster league game last night. Tipp won

homerjay2005

manofwisdom wrote: »

I seen the "new hand pass" in action a few years ago in underage preseason tournaments. It caused confusion to already confused officials and players became very frustrated by it all.

The handpass rule was in play underage around 1996 when i was playing football for the first time, caused no issues what so ever.

Stevecw

Looking at pics of the Munster hurling league game tonight with Kerry & Limerick, why were they both playing in green?! Very difficult to distinguish between the sides, and on a rainy night like that it must have been worse at the game.
Surely one of them should have worn their 2nd jersey.

https://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/1812102/

PTH2009

Are wexford, Kilkenny and Galway not in any pre season hurling tournaments this year ?

ProudDUB

PTH2009 wrote: »

Are wexford, Kilkenny and Galway not in any pre season hurling tournaments this year ?

Yeah, they are. They all have an automatic BYE into the semi finals of the Walsh Cup. The final 2 games of the round robin series next weekend, will determine who tops the group & they will be the 4th county into the semis.

Bonniedog

Walsh semi finals are next Sunday 13th:

Wexford v Stripey lads in Wexford

Dublin v Galway in Parnell.

Dublin have had good enough start under Kenny with three wins from three and over 30 players playing at some stage. Backs looking solid and bit of process of elimination going on in forwards I would say.

RMAOK

Anyone know why the Walsh cup final is now on Saturday as opposed to Sunday?

Bonniedog

There were a few counties mentioning the demands on a lot of players due to their also playing Fitzgibbon and Sigerson so might be that?

Pity the pre-season competitions are being downgraded as there were big crowds at McKenna, Galway/Mayo, Dublin/Meath and Dublin/Galway.

Apart from their being good chance to see new faces they bring in a pile of money for the fund. Dubs/Meath must have been close to a 100k gate.

RMAOK

There was 6,500 in tuam stadium last Sunday for the Galway Mayo match - some crowd for a pre season tournament match tbh.

Brian Cody was in the independent today complaining about the crazy amount of games third level senior inter county players will face over the next few weeks - something like 5 games in about 2 weeks. Crazy stuff imo

TCM

KevIRL wrote:

Walsh cup tomorrow as well. Offaly v laois

Laois will have no problem there.

Fr Tod Umptious

Bonniedog wrote: »

There were a few counties mentioning the demands on a lot of players due to their also playing Fitzgibbon and Sigerson so might be that?

Pity the pre-season competitions are being downgraded as there were big crowds at McKenna, Galway/Mayo, Dublin/Meath and Dublin/Galway.

Apart from their being good chance to see new faces they bring in a pile of money for the fund. Dubs/Meath must have been close to a 100k gate.

I think it has actually been to their benefit that they have been down graded.

In the FBD for example you only have the county teams.

This has resulted in a much more straightforward competition, play on consecutive Sundays with no messing with mid week games, players playing for their college against their county etc.

And I think the crowds reflect that

Bonniedog

Perhaps. Was not so much thinking of most college teams (still in McKenna) not being in, which is good thing; more that likes of Galway and Kilkenny hurlers and Dublin footballers get byes.

But you may be right in it creating more of interest and certainly crowds seem to be up in games played last weekend and expect big crowds for the finals.