Bizzare planning permission and tall buildings laws

Pretzeluck

Does every house really have to be the same. Does not spoiling the view matter more than having a better quality of life. You have a massive amount of land and could build multiple houses or extensions? Planning permission denied because f you. Why are we allowing government to tell us what we can and can't do with our land. We should all rise up! We cannot let this continue. With me!
Do you really "own" anything when the government tells you what you can and can't do with your own property. It's all just an illusion, you don't own anything. Whingers will go say but it will be out of control. Will it though? Have you visited other countries and is it as bad as you think? I did and what I've seen is that there are almost no identical houses and everyone builds the house according to their needs instead of following the same type house which for some reason the only type allowed here but why does everyone have to be the same?

Eirpod99

Off ya go.
I'll be along once you kick things off.

Pretzeluck

Eirpod99 wrote: »

Off ya go.
I'll be along once you kick things off.

Thank you for joining the movement. I would say please join the revolution but I'm pretty sure there is a law with something like conspiring to overthrow the government so I won't. Just another fact proving that freedom is an illusion.

John Sacrimoni

The boring old kuntz that object to tall buildings will all be dead soon enough. Then we can drag Ireland into the 21st century and actually build homes for our people.

corner of hells

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Does every house really have to be the same. Does not spoiling the view matter more than having a better quality of life. You have a massive amount of land and could build multiple houses or extensions? Planning permission denied because f you. Why are we allowing government to tell us what we can and can't do with our land. We should all rise up! We cannot let this continue. With me!
Do you really "own" anything when the government tells you what you can and can't do with your own property. It's all just an illusion, you don't own anything. Whingers will go say but it will be out of control. Will it though? Have you visited other countries and is it as bad as you think? I did and what I've seen is that there are almost no identical houses and everyone builds the house according to their needs instead of following the same type house which for some reason the only type allowed here but why does everyone have to be the same?

Can I wait till next to join the rising ?

I just need to finish off my Christmas shopping this weekend.

corner of hells

John Sacrimoni wrote: »

The boring old kuntz that object to tall buildings will all be dead soon enough. Then we can drag Ireland into the 21st century and actually build homes for our people.

Are we not in the 21st century already ?

Reati

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Does every house really have to be the same. Does not spoiling the view matter more than having a better quality of life. You have a massive amount of land and could build multiple houses or extensions? Planning permission denied because f you. Why are we allowing government to tell us what we can and can't do with our land. We should all rise up! We cannot let this continue. With me!
Do you really "own" anything when the government tells you what you can and can't do with your own property. It's all just an illusion, you don't own anything. Whingers will go say but it will be out of control. Will it though? Have you visited other countries and is it as bad as you think? I did and what I've seen is that there are almost no identical houses and everyone builds the house according to their needs instead of following the same type house which for some reason the only type allowed here but why does everyone have to be the same?

Tell me more about you. Like this is what you are thinking about so strongly at 6.56am on a Saturday that you need to post it to boards?

Like are you up early? Just back from a night out? Working? What starts this train of thought off.

fxotoole

Mary, Mary, quite contrary
How does your garden grow?
'I live with my brat in a high-rise flat,
So how in the world would I know.'

AndrewJRenko

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Does every house really have to be the same. Does not spoiling the view matter more than having a better quality of life. You have a massive amount of land and could build multiple houses or extensions? Planning permission denied because f you. Why are we allowing government to tell us what we can and can't do with our land. We should all rise up! We cannot let this continue. With me!
Do you really "own" anything when the government tells you what you can and can't do with your own property. It's all just an illusion, you don't own anything. Whingers will go say but it will be out of control. Will it though? Have you visited other countries and is it as bad as you think? I did and what I've seen is that there are almost no identical houses and everyone builds the house according to their needs instead of following the same type house which for some reason the only type allowed here but why does everyone have to be the same?

Ribbon development, or 'everyone builds the house according to their needs' is killing rural Ireland. That's why our towns and villages are dying.



The fact that you own the land does not give you the rights to build. If you think it does, will you have any objecting to me building a 5 storey apartment block overlooking your house?

orourkeda1977

John Sacrimoni wrote: »

The boring old kuntz that object to tall buildings will all be dead soon enough. Then we can drag Ireland into the 21st century and actually build homes for our people.

Who know, we my also allow businesses, schools, hospitals and all the other buildings we need to be built.

whisky_galore

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Ribbon development, or 'everyone builds the house according to their needs' is killing rural Ireland. That's why our towns and villages are dying.



The fact that you own the land does not give you the rights to build. If you think it does, will you have any objecting to me building a 5 storey apartment block overlooking your house?

Irish families don't like apartments. Where is the trampoline supposed to go?

BeerWolf

corner of hells wrote: »

Are we not in the 21st century already ?

Barely. My abysmal broadband connection reflects this!

Buford T. Justice XIX

whisky_galore wrote: »

Irish families don't like apartments. Where is the trampoline supposed to go?

The neighbours, after the first bit of wind.

AndrewJRenko

whisky_galore wrote: »

Irish families don't like apartments. Where is the trampoline supposed to go?

I didn't mention apartments as it happens, but if you want to go there...


Perhaps the reason Irish families don't like apartments is because apartments in Ireland haven't been designed for families? Perhaps because apartment green areas have no-ball-playing signs instead of providing facilities for families? Or perhaps because there is nowhere for someone in a 3rd storey apartment to store a buggy or a kids bike?

wakka12

Every country has planning permission laws you know not just ireland?

The fact that houses all look the same is because developers make them all the same because thats cheap, nothing to do with planning permission, theres not a culture of building your own individual house here, if you have an empty plot and want to build an indivdual house on it thats pretty suitable to the area then youll more thna likely be granted permission to do so

And house extensions are granted usually, dont know what you mean about that, plenty of houses in my area have been completely gutted and redeveloped with cool modern extensions, one house in a row of 20th C buildings was demolished and completely reconstructed in a modern style

As for tall buildings, yes agree, stupid and unjusitfied decsision against tall buildings in dublin

DS86DS

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Ribbon development, or 'everyone builds the house according to their needs' is killing rural Ireland. That's why our towns and villages are dying.



The fact that you own the land does not give you the rights to build. If you think it does, will you have any objecting to me building a 5 storey apartment block overlooking your house?

Ireland is not the only country to have such a dispersed settlement pattern. In Switzerland and Scandinavian countries, there is also a tradition of dispersed settlement.

I mean, bar a handful of coastal towns and the likes of Kilkenny, the vast majority of the built environment i Irish towns date from around 1800 or thereabouts.The towns themselves still stand, but rural dwellings often made of clay, thatch or stones have disappeared.

Scotland used to have a similar settlement pattern before the Highland Clearances. The Highlands were not always the wilderness today.

The only issue I'd have with any of this is setpic tank discharge into underground water sources. If that can be solved where the dwelling is concerned then I don't have any issues with the house.

Nekarsulm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Irish families don't like apartments. Where is the trampoline supposed to go?

Nekarsulm

Planning laws differ from County to County, at the whim of the Planning Officer in charg at thd time.
I live near the border of Cavan and Leitrim, and back when we were building our house in 2000, it was remarkable the differences.
In Cavan you could build most designs of house, while in leitrim the Planner enforced a variety of personal preferences on all new builds.
It was not permitted to have a porch to the front of the house, nor any projection.
The front wall had to be straight from end to end.
All forms of pebble dash were prohibited.
And most annoying for most people, he did not allow any large windows to the front of a house at ground level.
Instead, you could have 3 or four tall narrow windiws in a group, looking like a modernist chapel or something. I'm talking about windows no more thsn 2 foot wide.

Driving past these houses now, 18 years later, most have been "converted" by having the narrow windows removed and a normal style one fitted.
The builders had fitted lintels to allow this at the initialbuild stage.

That planner retired a few years later, and the next guy imposed no such conditions.

Pretzeluck

wakka12 wrote: »

Every country has planning permission laws you know not just ireland?

The fact that houses all look the same is because developers make them all the same because thats cheap, nothing to do with planning permission, theres not a culture of building your own individual house here, if you have an empty plot and want to build an indivdual house on it thats pretty suitable to the area then youll more thna likely be granted permission to do so

And house extensions are granted usually, dont know what you mean about that, plenty of houses in my area have been completely gutted and redeveloped with cool modern extensions, one house in a row of 20th C buildings was demolished and completely reconstructed in a modern style

As for tall buildings, yes agree, stupid and unjusitfied decsision against tall buildings in dublin

They probably built it without planing permission