2018 Social welfare Christmas bonus

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Thread title should read 2018.


It's fully restored to 100% from next Monday. That combined with Child benefit being paid next Tuesday off licence's will be busy as people stock up for Christmas. it won't go far enough for those in genuine need though.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/social-welfare-recipients-to-receive-christmas-bonus-from-monday-889110.html?fbclid=IwAR0ZBi7F3FSk0UEP0ABvrMjX_rAjQoGjvJuEZ4lq7EtN6yulJ46U3EBQaKs

Sir Oxman

JSB are exempt
I find that totally counter intuitive - JSB means you're recently unemployed so have suffered a massive drop in income recently!
Exactly the category of recipient that needs it

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Sir Oxman wrote: »

JSB are exempt
I find that totally counter intuitive - JSB means you're recently unemployed so have suffered a massive drop in income recently!
Exactly the category of recipient that needs it

Jobseekers benefit
Working family payment
Illness benefit are the 3 that are excluded if i remember correctly.

JSB should get it, especially as the money they are getting is what they paid in stamps basically.

It is an unfair system.

splinter65

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

Jobseekers benefit
Working family payment
Illness benefit are the 3 that are excluded if i remember correctly.

JSB should get it, especially as the money they are getting is what they paid in stamps basically.

It is an unfair system.

9 months JSB is nearly €9000 for a single person. And you can get that when your 26. Not many people that age have paid that much in PRSI.

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splinter65 wrote: »

9 months JSB is nearly €9000 for a single person. And you can get that when your 26. Not many people that age have paid that much in PRSI.

If someone’s worked from 18-26 that’s a considerable amount to pay. I was on it myself one time briefly.

rawn

Asking for my mam:

She is on JA for about a year until about 2 months ago, she did a CE scheme for a month and is now back on JA. Does the time on the CE scheme "reset" her time on JA, as I think you have to be on it a year for Xmas bonus?

splinter65

rawn wrote: »

Asking for my mam:

She is on JA for about a year until about 2 months ago, she did a CE scheme for a month and is now back on JA. Does the time on the CE scheme "reset" her time on JA, as I think you have to be on it a year for Xmas bonus?

She needs to have been on JSA for 15 months to get it. If some of that time was on CE then that’s fine but she does need the 15 months.

Graces7

Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

splinter65

Graces7 wrote: »

Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

I well remember Mrs Thatcher arriving at the Dispatch Box with a bag of groceries from the CoOp to demonstrate what you could get for £10 the year she introduced it. Must have been 1981 or so.

Iwouldinmesack

Graces7 wrote: »

Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

Do you not get an Irish payment?

hdowney

Graces7 wrote: »

Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

Do you mind me asking how you qualify for this? I don't mean you specifically but do you know what the qualifying criteria are?

splinter65

hdowney wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how you qualify for this? I don't mean you specifically but do you know what the qualifying criteria are?

If your getting a UK pension then you get the UK Christmas bonus.

splinter65

hdowney wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how you qualify for this? I don't mean you specifically but do you know what the qualifying criteria are?

Eligibility

To get a Christmas Bonus you must be present or ‘ordinarily resident’ in the UK, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Gibraltar, any European Economic Area (EEA) country, or Switzerland during the qualifying week.

You must also get at least one of the following benefits in the ‘qualifying week’ - this is normally the first full week of December:

Armed Forces Independence Payment
Attendance Allowance
Carer’s Allowance
Constant Attendance Allowance (paid under Industrial Injuries or War Pensions schemes)
Contribution-based Employment and Support Allowance (once the main phase of the benefit is entered after the first 13 weeks of claim)
Disability Living Allowance
Incapacity Benefit at the long-term rate
Industrial Death Benefit (for widows or widowers)
Mobility Supplement
Pension Credit - the guarantee element
Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
State Pension (including Graduated Retirement Benefit)
Severe Disablement Allowance (transitionally protected)
Unemployability Supplement or Allowance (paid under Industrial Injuries or War Pensions schemes)
War Disablement Pension at State Pension age
War Widow’s Pension
Widowed Mother’s Allowance
Widowed Parent’s Allowance
Widow’s Pension
If you haven’t claimed your State Pension and aren’t entitled to one of the other qualifying benefits you won’t get a Christmas Bonus

shamrock55

Sir Oxman wrote: »

JSB are exempt
I find that totally counter intuitive - JSB means you're recently unemployed so have suffered a massive drop in income recently!
Exactly the category of recipient that needs it

Exactly, if anything it should just be given to jsb, at least these are people who have had a working history and have paid taxes that go towards these benefits when they need them, but no let's give all the bonus to the scroungers who have never, or never will work a day in their lives, it's an utter disgrace tbh

Always Be Closing

No bonus for illness benefit?

splinter65

Always Be Closing wrote: »

No bonus for illness benefit?

No because it’s a short term payment.

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Always Be Closing wrote: »

No bonus for illness benefit?

splinter65 wrote: »

No because it’s a short term payment.

The criteria says one needs to be in receipt of a payment for 15 months or more, i have come across people on it for close to 2 years which took into account Christmas. Every year some people feel aggrieved by the rules and understandably so when you have the likes of Jimmy and Mickey down the road who have never worked but collect this payment under the jobseekers allowance title.

Spanish Eyes

Maybe not everyone on JSB will be eligible for that payment at the Christmas bonus date.

Some may be back in employment. Just my 2c. It is unfair though that those who have contributed get nothing. Maybe the JSB should be increased proportionately to include the equivalent of Christmas Bonus over the nine month period.

splinter65

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Maybe not everyone on JSB will be eligible for that payment at the Christmas bonus date.

Some may be back in employment. Just my 2c. It is unfair though that those who have contributed get nothing. Maybe the JSB should be increased proportionately to include the equivalent of Christmas Bonus over the nine month period.

Nobody on JSB could get the Christmas Bonus. JSB is 9 months max. You have to be 15 months on JSA to get it. The 9 months on JSB can’t be included in that calculation.

splinter65

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

The criteria says one needs to be in receipt of a payment for 15 months or more, i have come across people on it for close to 2 years which took into account Christmas. Every year some people feel aggrieved by the rules and understandably so when you have the likes of Jimmy and Mickey down the road who have never worked but collect this payment under the jobseekers allowance title.

Not “a” payment. It’s only certain payments. Most payments but not all.
A lot of people on IB have their IB topped up by their employer by contract for a certain amount of their sick leave to give them a basic weeks wage for the duration of their illness. It’s a bit much to suggest they get the same Christmas bonus as a pensioner managing on a non-con, or a carer.

Maewyn Succat

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

Jobseekers benefit
Working family payment
Illness benefit are the 3 that are excluded if i remember correctly.

JSB should get it, especially as the money they are getting is what they paid in stamps basically.

It is an unfair system.

Yes it's an unfair system. People who work regardless of their situations get no Christmas bonus.

splinter65

Maewyn Succat wrote: »

Yes it's an unfair system. People who work regardless of their situations get no Christmas bonus.

I’ve never had a Christmas bonus and I’ve worked solidly since 1982. I worked at least 8 Christmas days and 3 New Years days and never got a Christmas bonus.

Sir Oxman

splinter65 wrote: »

I’ve never had a Christmas bonus and I’ve worked solidly since 1982. I worked at least 8 Christmas days and 3 New Years days and never got a Christmas bonus.

Every single job I've had since 1985 I've got a bonus.

splinter65

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Every single job I've had since 1985 I've got a bonus.

It’s well for you!

Maewyn Succat

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Every single job I've had since 1985 I've got a bonus.

Was the bonus equivalent to an extra week's wage every year?

Sir Oxman

Maewyn Succat wrote: »

Was the bonus equivalent to an extra week's wage every year?

Two jobs covering a period of 15 years

Maewyn Succat

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Two jobs covering a period of 15 years

That's not what I asked. Was the bonus the equivalent of an extra week's wage every year?

Sir Oxman

Maewyn Succat wrote: »

That's not what I asked. Was the bonus the equivalent of an extra week's wage every year?

Are you ok?
I answered it even though the relevance to this thread is zero.

Yes - I was paid the equivalent of an extra weeks wages at Xmas in two jobs spanning 15 years

Is that clear?

engiweirdo

Never actually had a job that didn't pay some kind of bonus at Christmas, even cash in hand places used do it. I don't know what kind is Scrooge type figure wouldn't pay it tbh.

road_high

Graces7 wrote: »

Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

They’re a country of immense common sense (bar brexit!). The concept of handing €200 to someone for a luxury like Christmas just wouldn’t compute with the taxpayer there. A lot of us feel the same here but we have a much more vocal and influential do gooder/welfare brigade.
The likes of this rubbish needs to be abolished immediately and the savings afforded to taxpayers from whom it’s stolen from in the first place. Successive govts won’t do a thing though as it’s a vote getter (as is all welfare)

Sir Oxman

road_high wrote: »

They’re a country of immense common sense (bar brexit!). The concept of handing €200 to someone for a luxury like Christmas just wouldn’t compute with the taxpayer there. A lot of us feel the same here but we have a much more vocal and influential do gooder/welfare brigade.
The likes of this rubbish needs to be abolished immediately and the savings afforded to taxpayers from whom it’s stolen from in the first place. Successive govts won’t do a thing though as it’s a vote getter (as is all welfare)

This forum is not for that - take that to After Hours.

road_high

Sir Oxman wrote: »

This forum is not for that - take that to After Hours.

What, the truth?

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Are they still giving out the free cheese?

splinter65

engiweirdo wrote: »

Never actually had a job that didn't pay some kind of bonus at Christmas, even cash in hand places used do it. I don't know what kind is Scrooge type figure wouldn't pay it tbh.

There's no Christmas bonus throughout the entire civil service.

engiweirdo

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Are they still giving out the free cheese?

Haha That was the worst thing ever. Have an industrial sized block of heart disease on us. Bring back the butter vouchers.

Foweva Awone

splinter65 wrote: »

There's no Christmas bonus throughout the entire civil service.

Every week is Christmas bonus week for them :pac:

engiweirdo

splinter65 wrote: »

There's no Christmas bonus throughout the entire civil service.

I'd take the flexi days off over the bonus too though in fairness. And yes I have applied for it as it sounded so good.lol

Ultimate Seduction

Anyone who hasn't found a job in 15 months shouldn't be getting bonus. The people who have been on it less than 12 months should be the only recipients. The resession is over no excuse on JSA that long.

mp22

If posters wish to discuss the rights/wrongs of the christmas bonus,cheese,butter ect please go to after hours......

mp22

Graces7

splinter65 wrote: »

I well remember Mrs Thatcher arriving at the Dispatch Box with a bag of groceries from the CoOp to demonstrate what you could get for £10 the year she introduced it. Must have been 1981 or so.

Well LIDL have small frozen turkeys for E8.99 so I will dine royally.. But compared with Irish pensioners...

Do we get a week in advance the 3rd week of December also as everywhere will be closed the following week for Christmas

Thanks

pl4ichjgy17zwd

Deleted User wrote:

Do we get a week in advance the 3rd week of December also as everywhere will be closed the following week for Christmas

The week of the 17th, yes

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Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Anyone who hasn't found a job in 15 months shouldn't be getting bonus. The people who have been on it less than 12 months should be the only recipients. The resession is over no excuse on JSA that long.

Anyone on a jobseekers payment in the current climate longer than 15 months is clearly on it as a lifestyle choice.

Once you get into that rut the incentive to get back out of it isn’t great.

Do the welfare chase people up at all?

engiweirdo

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

Anyone on a jobseekers payment in the current climate longer than 15 months is clearly on it as a lifestyle choice.

Once you get into that rut the incentive to get back out of it isn’t great.

Do the welfare chase people up at all?

Or maybe not living in Dublin? There's a whole country out there beyond the Pale you know.

splinter65

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

Anyone on a jobseekers payment in the current climate longer than 15 months is clearly on it as a lifestyle choice.

Once you get into that rut the incentive to get back out of it isn’t great.

Do the welfare chase people up at all?

Yes they do. You can go to any thread here on Turas Nua and Seetec to get a flavor of the outrage the “chasing”causes.

Farfromhome02

As I always say
Worry about your own life and not other people,too many nosey gits living in ireland and always moaning about others,if it's such a great lifestyle choice go and do it

road_high

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

Anyone on a jobseekers payment in the current climate longer than 15 months is clearly on it as a lifestyle choice.

Once you get into that rut the incentive to get back out of it isn’t great.

Do the welfare chase people up at all?

They’re trying to but it’s very difficult to tackle such an ingrained entitlement culture- you’re impinging on their “human rights” if you have the audicity to scrutinize anyone living off these payments

road_high

Farfromhome02 wrote: »

As I always say
Worry about your own life and not other people,too many nosey gits living in ireland and always moaning about others,if it's such a great lifestyle choice go and do it

Well I couldn’t give a ****e about them but when im paying 50% marginal tax above just €32k to give these people “bonuses” I rightly question the lunacy of that set up. And make no apologies for that either, clearly not even people are

trixiebust

Kenya Whining Oarlock wrote: »

Anyone on a jobseekers payment in the current climate longer than 15 months is clearly on it as a lifestyle choice.

Once you get into that rut the incentive to get back out of it isn’t great.

Do the welfare chase people up at all?

Believe me, they do.

road_high

engiweirdo wrote: »

Or maybe not living in Dublin? There's a whole country out there beyond the Pale you know.

They’re are jobs all over the country. The old all the jobs are in Dublin chestnut doesn’t compute

Farfromhome02

road_high wrote: »

Well I couldn’t give a ****e about them but when im paying 50% marginal tax above just €32k to give these people “bonuses” I rightly question the lunacy of that set up. And make no apologies for that either, clearly not even people are

(These people) says alot
Get over yourself