Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

2018 Social welfare Christmas bonus

«134

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    JSB are exempt
    I find that totally counter intuitive - JSB means you're recently unemployed so have suffered a massive drop in income recently!
    Exactly the category of recipient that needs it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    JSB are exempt
    I find that totally counter intuitive - JSB means you're recently unemployed so have suffered a massive drop in income recently!
    Exactly the category of recipient that needs it

    Jobseekers benefit
    Working family payment
    Illness benefit are the 3 that are excluded if i remember correctly.

    JSB should get it, especially as the money they are getting is what they paid in stamps basically.

    It is an unfair system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Jobseekers benefit
    Working family payment
    Illness benefit are the 3 that are excluded if i remember correctly.

    JSB should get it, especially as the money they are getting is what they paid in stamps basically.

    It is an unfair system.

    9 months JSB is nearly €9000 for a single person. And you can get that when your 26. Not many people that age have paid that much in PRSI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    splinter65 wrote: »
    9 months JSB is nearly €9000 for a single person. And you can get that when your 26. Not many people that age have paid that much in PRSI.

    If someone’s worked from 18-26 that’s a considerable amount to pay. I was on it myself one time briefly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    Asking for my mam:

    She is on JA for about a year until about 2 months ago, she did a CE scheme for a month and is now back on JA. Does the time on the CE scheme "reset" her time on JA, as I think you have to be on it a year for Xmas bonus?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    rawn wrote: »
    Asking for my mam:

    She is on JA for about a year until about 2 months ago, she did a CE scheme for a month and is now back on JA. Does the time on the CE scheme "reset" her time on JA, as I think you have to be on it a year for Xmas bonus?

    She needs to have been on JSA for 15 months to get it. If some of that time was on CE then that’s fine but she does need the 15 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

    I well remember Mrs Thatcher arriving at the Dispatch Box with a bag of groceries from the CoOp to demonstrate what you could get for £10 the year she introduced it. Must have been 1981 or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭Iwouldinmesack


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

    Do you not get an Irish payment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

    Do you mind me asking how you qualify for this? I don't mean you specifically but do you know what the qualifying criteria are?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    hdowney wrote: »
    Do you mind me asking how you qualify for this? I don't mean you specifically but do you know what the qualifying criteria are?

    If your getting a UK pension then you get the UK Christmas bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    hdowney wrote: »
    Do you mind me asking how you qualify for this? I don't mean you specifically but do you know what the qualifying criteria are?

    Eligibility

    To get a Christmas Bonus you must be present or ‘ordinarily resident’ in the UK, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Gibraltar, any European Economic Area (EEA) country, or Switzerland during the qualifying week.

    You must also get at least one of the following benefits in the ‘qualifying week’ - this is normally the first full week of December:

    Armed Forces Independence Payment
    Attendance Allowance
    Carer’s Allowance
    Constant Attendance Allowance (paid under Industrial Injuries or War Pensions schemes)
    Contribution-based Employment and Support Allowance (once the main phase of the benefit is entered after the first 13 weeks of claim)
    Disability Living Allowance
    Incapacity Benefit at the long-term rate
    Industrial Death Benefit (for widows or widowers)
    Mobility Supplement
    Pension Credit - the guarantee element
    Personal Independence Payment (PIP)
    State Pension (including Graduated Retirement Benefit)
    Severe Disablement Allowance (transitionally protected)
    Unemployability Supplement or Allowance (paid under Industrial Injuries or War Pensions schemes)
    War Disablement Pension at State Pension age
    War Widow’s Pension
    Widowed Mother’s Allowance
    Widowed Parent’s Allowance
    Widow’s Pension
    If you haven’t claimed your State Pension and aren’t entitled to one of the other qualifying benefits you won’t get a Christmas Bonus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    JSB are exempt
    I find that totally counter intuitive - JSB means you're recently unemployed so have suffered a massive drop in income recently!
    Exactly the category of recipient that needs it

    Exactly, if anything it should just be given to jsb, at least these are people who have had a working history and have paid taxes that go towards these benefits when they need them, but no let's give all the bonus to the scroungers who have never, or never will work a day in their lives, it's an utter disgrace tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    No bonus for illness benefit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    No bonus for illness benefit?

    No because it’s a short term payment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    No bonus for illness benefit?
    splinter65 wrote: »
    No because it’s a short term payment.

    The criteria says one needs to be in receipt of a payment for 15 months or more, i have come across people on it for close to 2 years which took into account Christmas. Every year some people feel aggrieved by the rules and understandably so when you have the likes of Jimmy and Mickey down the road who have never worked but collect this payment under the jobseekers allowance title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Maybe not everyone on JSB will be eligible for that payment at the Christmas bonus date.

    Some may be back in employment. Just my 2c. It is unfair though that those who have contributed get nothing. Maybe the JSB should be increased proportionately to include the equivalent of Christmas Bonus over the nine month period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Maybe not everyone on JSB will be eligible for that payment at the Christmas bonus date.

    Some may be back in employment. Just my 2c. It is unfair though that those who have contributed get nothing. Maybe the JSB should be increased proportionately to include the equivalent of Christmas Bonus over the nine month period.

    Nobody on JSB could get the Christmas Bonus. JSB is 9 months max. You have to be 15 months on JSA to get it. The 9 months on JSB can’t be included in that calculation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    The criteria says one needs to be in receipt of a payment for 15 months or more, i have come across people on it for close to 2 years which took into account Christmas. Every year some people feel aggrieved by the rules and understandably so when you have the likes of Jimmy and Mickey down the road who have never worked but collect this payment under the jobseekers allowance title.

    Not “a” payment. It’s only certain payments. Most payments but not all.
    A lot of people on IB have their IB topped up by their employer by contract for a certain amount of their sick leave to give them a basic weeks wage for the duration of their illness. It’s a bit much to suggest they get the same Christmas bonus as a pensioner managing on a non-con, or a carer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    Jobseekers benefit
    Working family payment
    Illness benefit are the 3 that are excluded if i remember correctly.

    JSB should get it, especially as the money they are getting is what they paid in stamps basically.

    It is an unfair system.

    Yes it's an unfair system. People who work regardless of their situations get no Christmas bonus.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Yes it's an unfair system. People who work regardless of their situations get no Christmas bonus.

    I’ve never had a Christmas bonus and I’ve worked solidly since 1982. I worked at least 8 Christmas days and 3 New Years days and never got a Christmas bonus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    splinter65 wrote: »
    I’ve never had a Christmas bonus and I’ve worked solidly since 1982. I worked at least 8 Christmas days and 3 New Years days and never got a Christmas bonus.

    Every single job I've had since 1985 I've got a bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Every single job I've had since 1985 I've got a bonus.

    It’s well for you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Every single job I've had since 1985 I've got a bonus.

    Was the bonus equivalent to an extra week's wage every year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Was the bonus equivalent to an extra week's wage every year?

    Two jobs covering a period of 15 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭Maewyn Succat


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Two jobs covering a period of 15 years

    That's not what I asked. Was the bonus the equivalent of an extra week's wage every year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    That's not what I asked. Was the bonus the equivalent of an extra week's wage every year?

    Are you ok?
    I answered it even though the relevance to this thread is zero.

    Yes - I was paid the equivalent of an extra weeks wages at Xmas in two jobs spanning 15 years

    Is that clear?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    Never actually had a job that didn't pay some kind of bonus at Christmas, even cash in hand places used do it. I don't know what kind is Scrooge type figure wouldn't pay it tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,909 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Just got my Christmas Bonus from the UK.. E11. Ten sterling.

    They’re a country of immense common sense (bar brexit!). The concept of handing €200 to someone for a luxury like Christmas just wouldn’t compute with the taxpayer there. A lot of us feel the same here but we have a much more vocal and influential do gooder/welfare brigade.
    The likes of this rubbish needs to be abolished immediately and the savings afforded to taxpayers from whom it’s stolen from in the first place. Successive govts won’t do a thing though as it’s a vote getter (as is all welfare)


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    road_high wrote: »
    They’re a country of immense common sense (bar brexit!). The concept of handing €200 to someone for a luxury like Christmas just wouldn’t compute with the taxpayer there. A lot of us feel the same here but we have a much more vocal and influential do gooder/welfare brigade.
    The likes of this rubbish needs to be abolished immediately and the savings afforded to taxpayers from whom it’s stolen from in the first place. Successive govts won’t do a thing though as it’s a vote getter (as is all welfare)

    This forum is not for that - take that to After Hours.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement