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  • 28-11-2018 11:01am
    #1
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Will the recent cases around online dating put people off meeting someone online

    I met my husband online and the worst I ever encountered was a few eejits the vast majority were grand. Maybe things have changed even in 10 years?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Much the same as meeting someone in the pub, been bad stories there too but doesn’t stop people. Just need to be careful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I met my OH online about 18 months back - we're both on, shall we say, lap 2. The websites and/or apps are useful primarily for facilitating people coming together and chatting who wouldn't otherwise encounter each other. The usual fairly simple, largely common-sense, rules for protecting oneself apply.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    You should be slightly wary anytime you are meeting a stranger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,940 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    More people have meet there murder's or abuser's off-line than on-line ,
    People are strange in all walks off life,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    why should anyone be wary? victim blaming!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    More people have meet there murder's or abuser's off-line than on-line ,
    People are strange in all walks off life,

    Quite so indeed. I would however, have to say that facilities like Tinder and various Web-based systems nowadays make it rather easier for career predators like Patrick Nevin to hook up with victims that they would otherwise have never encountered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,940 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Quite so indeed. I would however, have to say that facilities like Tinder and various Web-based systems nowadays make it rather easier for career predators like Patrick Nevin to hook up with victims that they would otherwise have never encountered.

    Unfortunately the victim would just have been someone else,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Unfortunately the victim would just have been someone else,

    Of course, yes.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was a discussion on Newstalk the other day about a new dating ap strictly for those over 50, but the interesting thing is the ap has an ingenious way of making sure the person using it is who they say they are. That is a good start.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kai White Photocopier


    mariaalice wrote: »
    There was a discussion on Newstalk the other day about a new dating ap strictly for those over 50, but the interesting thing is the ap has an ingenious way of making sure the person using it is who they say they are. That is a good start.

    What is the way


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The misunderstanding of what people want, sometimes they don't even know themselves.

    The middle age fantasists who think it is going to be complication free sex with everyone they meet, versus someone looking for a relationship is one thing but the predatory rapist using a dating app is scary.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    What is the way

    Its complicated to explain its to do with face recognition technology I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    bluewolf wrote: »
    What is the way
    I think you have to say which button you have to press on a public payphone to connect the call.

    ("What's a public payphone?" they'll say...)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think you have to say which button you have to press on a public payphone to connect the call.

    ("What's a public payphone?" they'll say...)

    I went to the trouble of looking it up. In order to join they have to take a photo from their phone, that photo is not used on the site but is used to check the accuracy of any photo the person uploads to their profile, plus that photo is coming from a phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The misunderstanding of what people want, sometimes they don't even know themselves.

    The middle age fantasists who think it is going to be complication free sex with everyone they meet, versus someone looking for a relationship is one thing but the predatory rapist using a dating app is scary.

    I was a middle-aged fantasist looking for a stable, mutually-supportive relationship with someone that I could have occasionally complicated sex with. Can I have a biscuit?? :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    jimgoose wrote: »
    I was a middle-aged fantasist looking for a stable, mutually-supportive relationship with someone that I could have occasionally complicated sex with. Can I have a biscuit?? :D

    You get the biscuit because you knew what you wanted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    jimgoose wrote: »
    I was a middle-aged fantasist looking for a stable, mutually-supportive relationship with someone that I could have occasionally complicated sex with. Can I have a biscuit?? :D
    I think for that, you can have a chocolate hobnob. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    These cases have nothing to do with online dating, it's just a conduit for people to meet their victims and if it wasn't there, they'd simply use another one. The sad fact of the matter is that the vast, vast majority of women who are sexually or violently assaulted are attacked by someone they already know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Of course you would be wary - you are meeting a complete stranger. Anyone with any sense would be.

    Goes for men too ... it could be a setup to rob you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I went to the trouble of looking it up. In order to join they have to take a photo from their phone, that photo is not used on the site but is used to check the accuracy of any photo the person uploads to their profile, plus that photo is coming from a phone.

    Pointless. Sure if you were catfishing you could, when prompted to take a photo by the app at verification stage, just take a photo of a printed or on-screen picture of the person you were using to set up your fake profile.

    All these things can be worked around for the determined operator.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    These cases have nothing to do with online dating, it's just a conduit for people to meet their victims and if it wasn't there, they'd simply use another one. The sad fact of the matter is that the vast, vast majority of women who are sexually or violently assaulted are attacked by someone they already know.

    Yeah, that is true, but its how its perceived more than anything else that includes potentially putting men as well as women off.

    It would be a pity if it did because lots do meet and click with someone.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    bluewolf wrote: »
    What is the way
    App blasts 4 random bars of AC/DC and if you don't get the name of the song, you're out of the game.

    I think.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pointless. Sure if you were catfishing you could, when prompted to take a photo by the app at verification stage, just take a photo of a printed or on-screen picture of the person you were using to set up your fake profile.

    All these things can be worked around for the determined operator.

    I am not explaining it very well that is the simple version, the system can scan the internet for the photo someone has uploaded and check for any matches not explaining it very well.

    There is always a way around if someone is determined enough, but it makes it very difficult.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    App blasts 4 random bars of AC/DC and if you don't get the name of the song, you're out of the game.

    I think.

    Could work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    why should anyone be wary? victim blaming!!

    More wariness = fewer victims*

    *No awkward arithmetic whatsoever was employed in the derivation of this equation.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pointless. Sure if you were catfishing you could, when prompted to take a photo by the app at verification stage, just take a photo of a printed or on-screen picture of the person you were using to set up your fake profile.

    All these things can be worked around for the determined operator.

    Also do you not think they know this its carefully thought out and its a system other services use a bit like something out of CSI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Also do you not think they know this its carefully thought out and its a system other services use a bit like something out of CSI.

    I think you're talking about Lumen - yes, they're pretty serious about ID verification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    why should anyone be wary? victim blaming!!

    **** all use occupying the moral high ground in a coffin.


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  • Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Also do you not think they know this its carefully thought out and its a system other services use a bit like something out of CSI.

    A dating app using a system thats like something out of CSI? I could be wrong but I doubt it.

    I joined a site years ago where I needed to send a photo of myself holding my date of birth in order to verify the account. Or something. There is no fool proof way to ensure regular decent people join up.


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