JFK Assassination Autopsy Details Revealed After 55 Years

Cheerful Spring

Pathologist James C. Jenkins was one of four doctors who did an autopsy on JFK body after it got moved to Bethesda Naval Hospital.

He hasn't spoken of what he saw till now.

Key points he highlighted.

The body was in a crappy Vietnam like a casket when it arrived. He body was therefore removed from the brown casket that was unloaded off airforce one.

He noticed the skull has been operated on before it got there. He noticed incisions in the skull.

He said the head wound he witnessed could not have resulted from a gunshot from behind. It was would only result from a gunshot from the right front.

The autopsy reports are not accurate.

Video just uploaded day or yesterday.

Terrlock

Fascinating Interview.

Cheerful Spring

Terrlock wrote: »

Fascinating Interview.

Yep, one of the four doctors who saw the body confirms the conspiracy. He said the fatal shot came from the right front. That is the direction of the overpass and grassy knoll.

He also said there was no back head wound. The autopsy report is fake. He said there is also a wound in the throat area.

Cheerful Spring

I wonder just speculation on this could they have removed bullet fragments from the skull to cover up the calibre of the bullets used?

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Yep, one of the four doctors who saw the body confirms the conspiracy. He said the fatal shot came from the right front. That is the direction of the overpass and grassy knoll.

He also said there was no back head wound. The autopsy report is fake. He said there is also a wound in the throat area.

Why is he coming out after 55 years? What's his motivation? How do we know what he's saying is correct or true? 55 years is an awfully long time to be recalling events accurately.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Why is he coming out after 55 years? What's his motivation? How do we know what he's saying is correct or true? 55 years is an awfully long time to be recalling events accurately.

A friend of his an author approached him and asked him to detail his account in a new book. He testimony was given at the Warren Commission but nobody has seen that transcript. It under lock and key.

Maybe others involved in the event have said the same thing.

He going to remember doing an autopsy on JFK. He likely shared this with others he knows but not the public.

The magic bullet theory is nonsensical anyhow. How does a bullet zigzag through different bodies and turn in the air?

Terrlock

The mere fact they they conceal documents and evidence from the public causes me to be suspicious of they're motives behind doing that.

Cheerful Spring

Terrlock wrote: »

The mere fact they they conceal documents and evidence from the public causes me to be suspicious of they're motives behind doing that.

Exactly people seem to have forgotten when the JFK files were going to fully released last year. The CIA and FBI stepped in and told Trump thousands of files cannot be released for national security reasons. Trump agreed and classified thousands of files again till 2025.

Oswald was the only person who did the killing if you believe that. Oswald before he could stand trial was murdered in public by a mobster.

The Nal

namloc1980 wrote: »

Why is he coming out after 55 years? What's his motivation? How do we know what he's saying is correct or true? 55 years is an awfully long time to be recalling events accurately.

His theories would be decent if there wasnt a video of the assassination which clearly debunk his claims.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

His theories would be decent if there wasnt a video of the assassination which clearly debunk his claims.

He was one of four doctors who did the JFK autopsy a theory nope.

The Zapruder film clearly shows an impact from the right front.

Cheerful Spring

According to Nal and the Warren Commission the bullet impacted the back of the skull and exited out the right side.

The video does not show a bullet hitting the back of the skull.

Dtp1979

Jesus it looked like the side of his face exploded? What was the large mass on his face?

Cheerful Spring

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Jesus it looked like the side of his face exploded? What was the large mass on his face?

Bone Tissue and blood splatter? Probably hit with a high impact velocity bullet.

Dtp1979

I don’t know much about the history but he was obviously shot twice?

ligerdub

Cheerful Spring wrote:

He going to remember doing an autopsy on JFK. He likely shared this with others he knows but not the public.

The magic bullet theory is nonsensical anyhow. How does a bullet zigzag through different bodies and turn in the air?

The magic bullet is no fantasy. The only plausible explanation for Connolly being shot in the back, through the lungs, smash his wrist and then lodge into his leg is that he was shot from behind and from quite high up, and this can be traced back to pretty much Oswalds perch/working area. There's just no way he can get those specific wounds from anywhere else but there, and there's almost no chance he could get hit there without also hitting Kennedy en route. There's no zigzag required, just so long as the bullet doesn't hit bone.

I'm not a great believer in the likelihood of a shot from the front, and a shot from behind is much easier than a shot from the side amongst the crowd of people.

The bullets used are likely to have been frangible bullets, which will create wounds inconsistent with a normal gunshot wound.

Having said all that this isn't a new revelation re: the doctors overseeing the body. Several doctors who worked on JFK have said the same thing over the years, about the wounds they saw, the likely point of entry, and the position of the wounds.

Cheerful Spring

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I don’t know much about the history but he was obviously shot twice?

Least two times yes he was hit. Maybe three?.

Both gunshots are disputed. Oswald allegedly fired three shots and missed one

James Tague was also hit by bullet fragments not widely known this by the public today. He testified the shots came from the grassy knoll area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tague

The Warren Commission states one shot hit Kennedy in the back ( its called the magic bullet) it caused multiple injuries to Kennedy and Connelly who sat in front of him. The bullet was later found in almost pristine condition at the hospital lol if you believe that.

The second shot entered the back of the skull according to the Warren Commission and it was the fatal shot.

Cheerful Spring

ligerdub wrote: »

The magic bullet is no fantasy. The only plausible explanation for Connolly being shot in the back, through the lungs, smash his wrist and then lodge into his leg is that he was shot from behind and from quite high up, and this can be traced back to pretty much Oswalds perch/working area. There's just no way he can get those specific wounds from anywhere else but there, and there's almost no chance he could get hit there without also hitting Kennedy en route. There's no zigzag required, just so long as the bullet doesn't hit bone.

I'm not a great believer in the likelihood of a shot from the front, and a shot from behind is much easier than a shot from the side amongst the crowd of people.

The bullets used are likely to have been frangible bullets, which will create wounds inconsistent with a normal gunshot wound.

Having said all that this isn't a new revelation re: the doctors overseeing the body. Several doctors who worked on JFK have said the same thing over the years, about the wounds they saw, the likely point of entry, and the position of the wounds.

Nobody has ever claimed there was no shooter firing shots from behind. The conspiracy is there were multiple shooters in different locations

There also dispute how many bullets were fired. Oswald rifle only had three bullets.

The magic bullet was found in almost untouched condition with no blood or tissue on it.

Grassy knoll was completely devoid of people on the pathway below. You should look at the photographs. Grassy Knoll is an elevated point above ground perfect for a head shot.

Cheerful Spring

John Connelly disputes the Warren Commission findings in this video. His wife says he was hit by a second bullet after Kenndy touched his throat.

4.15 they discuss it.

ligerdub

Cheerful Spring wrote:

Nobody has ever claimed there was no shooter firing shots from behind. The conspiracy is there were multiple shooters in different locations

The area itself is a natural crossfire right enough, and indeed there is a possibility that shots could have come from the side and behind (and I suppose the front). The thing is though, is that if the shots that hit Kennedy and Connally were the same bullet (almost certainly the case) and from an elevated position from a building behind the motorcade (definitely if the same bullet), then it pretty much stamps the fact that shots were fired from high and behind, and they injured both men. There's no such corroborating evidence relating to shots coming from anywhere else.

Cheerful Spring wrote:

There also dispute how many bullets were fired. Oswald rifle only had three bullets.

Three bullets have been accounted for, there's no evidence of any more bar what people thought they heard. Also, without being callous, 3 shots, especially when one was in the head, was all that was needed. Likely scenario, 1st shot took a ricochet and smashed off the path near Tague, who was hit with fragments, the 2nd shot hit both Kennedy and Connally, then the 3rd and final shot hit Kennedy in the head, killing him.

Cheerful Spring wrote:

The magic bullet was found in almost untouched condition with no blood or tissue on it.

That's a misunderstanding, and a perception when only viewing the bullet from one side. When viewed into the base of the bullet you can clearly see it was significantly warped.

Cheerful Spring wrote:

Grassy knoll was completely devoid of people on the pathway below. You should look at the photographs. Grassy Knoll is an elevated point above ground perfect for a head shot.

There were people in the vicinity, if not behind the fence. The area is not that big. People ran towards the fence after the shooting. No shells were found and no shooter was seen. Are we expected to believe that somebody would carry out such an act in public, at near ground level, and then getaway without being seen or leaving any evidence? It's almost ludicrous.

The shot itself could have been fired from there, but in the absence of any evidence, and taking into account the near certainly that the shot that had just hit Connally had more than likely come from the TSBD or a nearby building, then the most logical conclusion is that that's where all the shots came from.

Cheerful Spring

ligerdub wrote: »

The area itself is a natural crossfire right enough, and indeed there is a possibility that shots could have come from the side and behind (and I suppose the front). The thing is though, is that if the shots that hit Kennedy and Connally were the same bullet (almost certainly the case) and from an elevated position from a building behind the motorcade (definitely if the same bullet), then it pretty much stamps the fact that shots were fired from high and behind, and they injured both men. There's no such corroborating evidence relating to shots coming from anywhere else.



Three bullets have been accounted for, there's no evidence of any more bar what people thought they heard. Also, without being callous, 3 shots, especially when one was in the head, was all that was needed. Likely scenario, 1st shot took a ricochet and smashed off the path near Tague, who was hit with fragments, the 2nd shot hit both Kennedy and Connally, then the 3rd and final shot hit Kennedy in the head, killing him.



That's a misunderstanding, and a perception when only viewing the bullet from one side. When viewed into the base of the bullet you can clearly see it was significantly warped.



There were people in the vicinity, if not behind the fence. The area is not that big. People ran towards the fence after the shooting. No shells were found and no shooter was seen. Are we expected to believe that somebody would carry out such an act in public, at near ground level, and then getaway without being seen or leaving any evidence? It's almost ludicrous.

The shot itself could have been fired from there, but in the absence of any evidence, and taking into account the near certainly that the shot that had just hit Connally had more than likely come from the TSBD or a nearby building, then the most logical conclusion is that that's where all the shots came from.

Warren Commission tried to replicate the magic bullet trajectory and damage and they could not do so. There bullets tests can be found online. Every bullet was deformed in their tests. The magic bullet which allegedly hit Kennedy was found in almost pristine condition at the hospital with a few cracks at the top of the bullet. It just mysteriously just appeared and was not found, in the car Kennedy and Connelly travelled in.

The death sheet showed the back wound was near the third thoracic vertebrae. Warren commission moved that wound up 6 inches to the neck so it would exit the throat area. The manipulated early findings the doctors found.

Least 4 shots were fired it explains all the injuries Kennedy and Connelly received. The 4 shot probably came from the grassy knoll or the underpass.

There was also a crack on the windshield of the limo. Men in suits were caught changing the front window at the hospital. We have photo evidence of this.

There were many reports more bullets were found but those reports got killed off and never heard about again. Deputies reported on the day a 45 calibre bullet was found but that story disappeared shortly after the killing. Deputy Roger Craig claimed they found a Mauser rifle, not the Carcano belonging to Oswald. He saw Mauser 7.65 on the rifle recovered by Dallas police. There lot of oddities with the JFK event that you find there during a cover-up.

namloc1980

The Zapruder footage actually shows his head going forward on impact by the bullet to the back of the head. Then violently moves backwards as the explosion of the exit wound makes his head lurch back.

Warning below:

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Grassy knoll was completely devoid of people on the pathway below. You should look at the photographs.

Why don't you look at the photos? Clearly people on the steps. People who didn't react to a hire powered rifle firing 6 to 10 feet from their heads. Why didn't they react? They actually move closer to the picket fence.

Mary Moorman photo




Orville Nix film

namloc1980 wrote: »

The Zapruder footage actually shows his head going forward on impact by the bullet to the back of the head. Then violently moves backwards as the explosion of the exit wound makes his head lurch back.

Warning below:

You won't find one conspiracy nut who can explain this. Because it can't be explained by a shot from the front. Its physically impossible. How can a shot from the front make his head move forward initially? And if it was a shot from the front right, the exit wound would have to be at the rear left of hi head, which it clearly wasn't.

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

According to Nal and the Warren Commission the bullet impacted the back of the skull and exited out the right side.

The video does not show a bullet hitting the back of the skull.

No, it shows an exit wound that could only have been caused by a bullet from behind him.

How can his head go forward, splatter go forward and there be an exit wound on the right from a shot from the right front?!

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

Why don't you look at the photos? Clearly people on the steps. People who didn't react to a hire powered rifle firing 6 to 10 feet from their heads. Why didn't they react? They actually move closer to the picket fence.

Mary Moorman photo




Orville Nix film

You won't find one conspiracy nut who can explain this. Because it can't be explained by a shot from the front. Its physically impossible. How can a shot from the front make his head move forward initially? And if it was a shot from the front right, the exit wound would have to be at the rear left of hi head, which it clearly wasn't.



No, it shows an exit wound that could only have been caused by a bullet from behind him.

How can his head go forward, splatter go forward and there be an exit wound on the right from a shot from the right front?!

This image I post in a minute could show the other shooter? Many Eyewitnesses are on video describing a shot coming from this very spot in the image. By the way, the Warren Commission never interviewed them and got their version of what happened.

Some of those eyewitnesses ignored by the Warren Commission.

The image isn't great it just brightened to remove the dark shadowing. Where i circled in red could be a man standing with a rifle in the air about to leave. It looks like he's wearing a police hat or worker hat of some kind. I could be wrong on this and seeing something in the image that not there?

I spotted this in the image. The photo description doesn't say anything about what I am seeing!



Kennedy was leaning to the left after the second shot. You can see it hit his head near the temple area just near the right ear. That in line with a right front shot. The bullet would likely shatter in the skull and not exit from the other side. You can see even in your own images there no blood splatter at the back of the head.

Cheerful Spring

Source for this photo is here https://www.today.com/news/jfk-grassy-knoll-photo-fails-sell-auction-2D11599940

It might actually be a raw negative an original

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

This image I post in a minute could show the other shooter?

Heres a higher quality pic of the same image a fraction of a second before the headshot. Theres no one there.



Heres a pic I took behind the fence on the knoll. Notice the people on the steps in about the same position as the 3 men in 1963, the car is in the same position as it was for the headshot.

Those people are about 6 foot away from me. Theres no way they wouldn't notice someone shooting a gun from that close. Not a hope.




People don't understand the physics of Dealey Plaza. The knoll looks a lot bigger on the Nix and Hughes films and the Moorman photo as they're all taken from a distance. Its actually not that big and very close to the road.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

Heres a higher quality pic of the same image a fraction of a second before the headshot. Theres no one there.

I still see the person standing behind the picket fence with a rifle in the air.

You can even see the picket fence top portion is lower than the image in the photo. The person is looking over it.

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I still see the person standing behind the picket fence with a rifle in the air.

You can even see the picket fence top portion is lower than the image in the photo. The person is looking over it.

Look at my photo above. The fence is below shoulder height.

As for the Moorman photo, thats just at the moment of impact for the headshot, yet the shooter is sticking the rifle up into the air and about to leave? How did he shoot JFK in the head if the gun is pointing into the sky?

Ill repeat again, there is no way that someone fired a gun so close to the 3 men on the steps, or Zapruder for that matter, without them noticing, never mind them walking backwards towards the gunfire.

Cheerful Spring

To me, that image looks higher than the picket fence. It looks like a figure of a person with a rifle in his right hand probably moving away after firing the shot? Could be wearing a hat of some kind?

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

Look at my photo above. The fence is below shoulder height.

As for the Moorman photo, thats just at the moment of impact for the headshot, yet the shooter is sticking the rifle up into the air and about to leave? How did he shoot JFK in the head if the gun is pointing into the sky?

Ill repeat again, there is no way that someone fired a gun so close to the 3 men on the steps, or Zapruder for that matter, without them noticing, never mind them walking backwards towards the gunfire.

You can see the head portion towering over of the top part of the fence. So clearly it's a different image and not the picket fence.

When he fired the shot, he going to reposition his body and lift the rifle so naturally, it points up.

The Nal

Not sure where Im supposed to be looking? He would need to be about 8 foot tall. Just looks like a gap in the trees to me. The Nix movie has been enhanced and shows no one there too.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

Not sure where Im supposed to be looking? He would need to be about 8 foot tall. Just looks like a gap in the trees to me. The Nix movie has been enhanced and shows no one there too.

No, he wouldn't. How big the planks are is what matters. From the base to top what the height we know then?

He could also be standing on something behind the fence to rise his position?

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

. The Nix movie has been enhanced and shows no one there too.

Description of the image: Mary Ann Moorman captured this Polaroid image at the moment President John F. Kennedy was shot on Nov. 22, 1963.

So it seems to be untouched photo an original

The Nal

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

No, he wouldn't. How big the planks are is what matters. From the base to top what the height we know then?

He could also be standing on something behind the fence to rise his position?

He wouldn't need to. Its the same fence today, same size. The top is under my armpit, maybe lower so less than 5ft ish. A shooter there would've been clearly seen. And again, more importantly, heard. Immediately.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal wrote: »

He wouldn't need to. Its the same fence today, same size. The top is under my armpit, maybe lower so less than 5ft ish. A shooter there would've been clearly seen. And again, more importantly, heard. Immediately.

There definitely an image there and not the picket fence. You can even see the top portion of the body is higher than the picket fence. The trees are in the background.

The very same spot is where eyewitnesses placed the shooter and there is an image there that looks like a person.

Cheerful Spring

Just highlight so people can see what we looking at.

Red is the figure. The green is the top of the picket fence.

Cheerful Spring

The Nal look where the image is standing draw a straight line to Kennedy limo. You see the bullet would line up perfectly (the line of sight is not off it matches up)

Cheerful Spring

Unfortunately, this eyewitness can't speak but he saw two men in the grassy knoll. He saw the shooter who had a gun in his hand walk away he also claims he wore a hat. The image does show a person with a hat of some kind.

namloc1980

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Just highlight so people can see what we looking at.

Red is the figure. The green is the top of the picket fence.

Looks like shadows and light from the trees like the rest of that part of the image.

Tipsy McSwagger

JFK assasination was solved over 50 years ago, LHO did it on his own and then murdered a police officer in front of about half a dozen people. A peasant killed a king which is hard for people to believe.

Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

JFK assasination was solved over 50 years ago, LHO did it on his own and then murdered a police officer in front of about half a dozen people. A peasant killed a king which is hard for people to believe.

This was a new US government investigation in 1976
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

They heard new evidence and concluded there was a second shooter.

Cheerful Spring

namloc1980 wrote: »

Looks like shadows and light from the trees like the rest of that part of the image.

That image just happens to match eyewitnesses accounts of a shooter with a hat

You can believe it shadow and light if you like.

Cheerful Spring

The images reveal Connelly was hit by a second bullet.

He right wrist got shattered remember.


Problem. You can see Kennedy has already felt the bullet pass through the throat. He starts to move his hands up.



An average bullet travels at 2,500 feet per second (around 1,700 mph)

The bullet would have already shattered Connelly wrist going at 1,700mph an hour.

Connelly is adamant he looked back to see what is happening and was not hit by a bullet at this stage. This image support this. And if his right wrist just got hit by a bullet why is still clutching his hat in that hand?



Connelly Testimony at Warren Commission.

Mr. SPECTER. As the automobile turned left onto Elm from Houston, what did occur there, Governor?

Governor CONNALLY. We had--we had gone, I guess, 150 feet, maybe 200 feet, I don't recall how far it was, heading down to get on the freeway, the Stemmons Freeway, to go out to the hall where we were going to have lunch and, as I say, the crowds had begun to thin, and we could--I was anticipating that we were going to be at the hall in approximately 5 minutes from the time we turned on Elm Street.

We had just made the turn, well, when I heard what I thought was a shot. I heard this noise which I immediately took to be a rifle shot. I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my rightshoulder,

so I turned to look back over my right shoulder, and I saw nothing unusual except just people in the crowd, but I did not catch the President in the corner of my eye, and I was interested, because once I heard the shot in my own mind I identified it as a rifle shot, and I immediately--the only thought that crossed my mind was that this is an assassination attempt.
So I looked, failing to see him, I was turning to look back over my left shoulder into the back seat, but I never got that far in my turn. I got about in the position I am in now facing you, looking a little bit to the left of center, and then I felt like someone had hit me in the back.

Tipsy McSwagger

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

This was a new US government investigation in 1976
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

They heard new evidence and concluded there was a second shooter.

Ye I’m aware of it. They claimed there was a fourth shot which was later proved to come from an open mic from a motorcycle cop.

Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Ye I’m aware of it. They claimed there was a fourth shot which was later proved to come from an open mic from a motorcycle cop.

The Zapruder images clearly show Connelly was not hit by the magic bullet. Connelly would have got hit in the same frame or after frame.

226 frame Kennedy already lifting his arms to his throat.

Connelly only turns to look over his right shoulder in frame 233.

Did the magic bullet pause in the air and wait to hit Connelly?

ligerdub

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The Zapruder images clearly show Connelly was not hit by the magic bullet. Connelly would have got hit in the same frame or after frame.

226 frame Kennedy already lifting his arms to his throat.

Connelly only turns to look over his right shoulder in frame 233.

Did the magic bullet pause in the air and wait to hit Connelly?

Disagree.

Tipsy McSwagger

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The Zapruder images clearly show Connelly was not hit by the magic bullet. Connelly would have got hit in the same frame or after frame.

226 frame Kennedy already lifting his arms to his throat.

Connelly only turns to look over his right shoulder in frame 233.

Did the magic bullet pause in the air and wait to hit Connelly?

Listen I’m not gonna get into it with you, the case is closed, there’s so much evidence against LHO he could be convicted 10 times over.

Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Listen I’m not gonna get into it with you, the case is closed, there’s so much evidence against LHO he could be convicted 10 times over.

I never claimed Oswald was not a shooter. I said there were another shooter and evidence supports that.

Oswald got killed by a well-known mobster Jack Ruby.

Ruby claimed there was a conspiracy while in custody even said it on tape.

Cheerful Spring

ligerdub wrote: »

Disagree.

Not sure what you disagreeing with the Zapruder frames support John Connelly statement.

He firmly believes a second bullet hit him not the magic bullet.

He is right based on what you see in the Zapruder video frames.

Do you think bullets just stop in the air and wait?

Tipsy McSwagger

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I never claimed Oswald was not a shooter. I said there were another shooter and evidence supports that.

Oswald got killed by a well-known mobster Jack Ruby.

Ruby claimed there was a conspiracy while in custody even said it on tape.

Why did Ruby kill Oswald?

Cheerful Spring

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Why did Ruby kill Oswald?

Probably ordered to by the mob. The mob has ties with the CIA in the 1960s.

They probably are both involved. It all about Cuba I believe. The FBI hated Kennedy so they likely in on as well covering up.

Mob lost a fortune when Castro came to power. He closed down the Casinos and Hotels. The failure of the bay of pigs Kennedy was marked man for not supporting the invasion. It was invasion organised by the CIA.

ligerdub

Cheerful Spring wrote:

Do you think bullets just stop in the air and wait?

Cheerful Spring wrote:

He is right based on what you see in the Zapruder video frames.

Cheerful Spring wrote:

He firmly believes a second bullet hit him not the magic bullet.

Cheerful Spring wrote:

Not sure what you disagreeing with the Zapruder frames support John Connelly statement.

They are clearly hit virtually simultaneously. The video shows this.