Constant incoherent warbling in every song these days

gormdubhgorm

I realise using the phrase 'these days' immediately identifies myself as moving into auld git territory.

But about ten years ago it seemed to be just a few in the mainstream

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/989476/ahhhh-make-warble-singing-stop

Now every f**ker seems to be at it.

This sh*te

Is this trend here to stay?
The millennial woop seems to be a shorter version of this type of guff.

Or will they all have to die off?

mad muffin

The master himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkbP5OPQhdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DuoBTJdmds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwDuipYrUqE

Car expert

I’d give the Nolan sisters one.

NickNickleby

Here's my antidote:

Couple of cans of Guinness after they've all gone to bed, on with the headphones, then an hour of Creedence Clearwater Revival. Bliss!!!

NickNickleby

Car expert wrote: »

I’d give the Nolan sisters one.

between them???:pac:

Fiery mutant

It’s because none of these idiots has a story to tell.

Instead of writing music based on experience and life, all they seem to do is see who can best impersonate a cat getting a giant thermometer shoved up its ass.

Pisses me off listening to music these days.

NickNickleby

After posting, I decided to have a listen to the Araine Grande thing. Lasted exactly 43 seconds. Pure crap.

Car expert

NickNickleby wrote: »

After posting, I decided to have a listen to the Araine Grande thing. Lasted exactly 43 seconds. Pure crap.

That was a bad erection for sure.

NickNickleby

Fiery mutant wrote: »

It’s because none of these idiots has a story to tell.

Instead of writing music based on experience and life, all they seem to do is see who can best impersonate a cat getting a giant thermometer shoved up its ass.

Pisses me off listening to music these days.

THis exactly.

I tell my now adult kids that today's music has no 'story', and shock-horror, they agree with me.

NickNickleby

Car expert wrote: »

That was a bad erection for sure.

hahahaha, you BRAT!

:D

added smileys to show I appreciated the joke.

demanufactured

Usually stick on some Pantera, mastodon, slayer, tool, karnivool, cog, van Halen, whitesnake, RATM to name but a few, so OP...I havnt a clue what your talking about.

andekwarhola

Car expert wrote: »

I’d give the Nolan sisters one.

Just one?

Car expert

andekwarhola wrote: »

Just one?

At a time, they were mainly in the mood for dancing.

Cutie 3.14

NickNickleby wrote: »

After posting, I decided to have a listen to the Araine Grande thing. Lasted exactly 43 seconds. Pure crap.

I don’t like her music at all but in fairness to her she is an extremely talented singer, in my opinion!

NickNickleby

Cutie 3.14 wrote: »

I don’t like her music at all but in fairness to her she is an extremely talented singer, in my opinion!

Perhaps she is, but that doesn't come across in the 43 seconds of waWAoohWAWA-ing I heard! I suppose the range is good, so maybe her songs sound well. But she's no John Fogarty .

Car expert

NickNickleby wrote: »

Perhaps she is, but that doesn't come across in the 43 seconds of waWAoohWAWA-ing I heard! I suppose the range is good, so maybe her songs sound well. But she's no John Fogarty .

You’re consistent.

NickNickleby

Car expert wrote: »

You’re consistent.

Thanks, I put it down to the all bran. Anyway, back to Spotify.....

Cutie 3.14

NickNickleby wrote: »

Perhaps she is, but that doesn't come across in the 43 seconds of waWAoohWAWA-ing I heard! I suppose the range is good, so maybe her songs sound well. But she's no John Fogarty .

Haha!

All that WAoohWAWA-ing is showing the talent though! Showing the range her voice has!

(I have no idea what I’m talking about! )

igCorcaigh

I can't hear a single melody in any of that stuff.
I mean, try humming it after listening to it. You can't.

RWCNT

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I can't hear a single melody in any of that stuff.
I mean, try humming it after listening to it. You can't.

It's like a shred guitar solo with little melody, it's just showing off and not meant to be anything other than a display of her virtuosity. As Joey The Lips Fagan would call it, "musical ****".

Love me some Ariana though, "Into You" and "Touch It" are bangers.

The Crowman

Always singing with their eyes closed and sounding like they're taking a hard sh!t.

worded

Car expert wrote: »

I’d give the Nolan sisters one.

Love that one .... “ I’m in the nude for dancing .... romancing .... “

https://youtu.be/4UZYXFgQnAo

Samuri Suicide

demanufactured wrote: »

Usually stick on some Pantera, mastodon, slayer, tool, karnivool, cog, van Halen, whitesnake, RATM to name but a few, so OP...I havnt a clue what your talking about.

Just an excuse to list off the bands you like that are different and expect applause. Well done you you little mastodoon snakey rascal gwar bag. Well done.

jonon9

mad muffin wrote: »

The master himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkbP5OPQhdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DuoBTJdmds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwDuipYrUqE

I could listen to that guy sing all day, something about his voice.

demanufactured

Samuri Suicide wrote: »

Just an excuse to list off the bands you like that are different and expect applause. Well done you you little mastodoon snakey rascal gwar bag. Well done.

Nope, I just like real music, I don't know how some people listen to the manufactured bile that gets pumped out by the xfactor clones.

VeryTerry

demanufactured wrote: »

Nope, I just like real music, I don't know how some people listen to the manufactured bile that gets pumped out by the xfactor clones.

Its no more real than anything else. There's a lot of negativity in music like that. You might benefit from a few more positive vibes.

There was a song that was always on the radio a couple of years ago and for the life of me I couldn’t make out any of the words.

Thought I’d add the YouTube vid here to see if anyone could help me out but I have no fecking clue what the lyrics are to start the search. Now the tune is stuck in my head and I’m going “ner ner ner ne ne ner”

super_furry

The second you start complaining about modern music just sounding like noise, you need to start planning for your retirement because you're officially old.

Wanderer78

demanufactured wrote:

Nope, I just like real music, I don't know how some people listen to the manufactured bile that gets pumped out by the xfactor clones.

You ll find all music is 'real', as somebody composed it, who cares what people listen to, as long as they're happy doing so

Wanderer78

super_furry wrote:

The second you start complaining about modern music just sounding like noise, you need to start planning for your retirement because you're officially old.

I've been listening to noise all my life, tis feckin great

L'Enfer du Nord

What's popular contemporary music is basically what there appears to be largest commercial audience for.

Based on concert ticket sales/revenue maybe a bunch of auld gifts have the largest audience. But no one is interested in listening to their new stuff.

I'd say 8-28 year olds tastes dictate what's considered popular. As for the incoherent warbling, I guess a globalised market has something to do with it. Most of the potential market aren't English speakers in the first place.

Plus technically this is in German (I Think) but realistically very few people ever listen to the words. So incoherent vocals have always had an audience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP9SX7V14Z4

Ps I hate Opera, at least pop songs are on 5 minutes long or less.

Tom Dunne

As somebody whose taste in music can be somewhat eclectic, but firmly rooted in the pre-2000's, I decided to broaden my auditory horizon with the aid of Spotify. So the other day on the commute home, I put on a playlist called Top 50 Hits.

It consisted of either droning, nasal, wannabe starlets or angry urban youths.

As the playlist progressed, my inner Victor Meldrew came out in full force.

demanufactured

VeryTerry wrote: »

Its no more real than anything else. There's a lot of negativity in music like that. You might benefit from a few more positive vibes.

I'm pretty happy thanks.
It's real, written by real musicians, on real instruments, with real emotion.

The tripe that gets pumped out by the Simon Cowells of the world is most definitely not real music.

Give me some Steely Dan any day over that prefabricated muck.

cdeb

Does it count if it's the crowd warbling? (From 0:50)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szt60RlgcL4

Ken Tucky

super_furry wrote: »

The second you start complaining about modern music just sounding like noise, you need to start planning for your retirement because you're officially old.

Don't agree..chart music is muck. Shouldn't be considered music. The fawning over pop artists is insane. It's music for kids up to the age of puberty. Shouldn't be allowed on mainstream radio but it's there all day everyday...thank God for internet radio.

VeryTerry

demanufactured wrote: »

I'm pretty happy thanks.
It's real, written by real musicians, on real instruments, with real emotion.

The tripe that gets pumped out by the Simon Cowells of the world is most definitely not real music.

Give me some Steely Dan any day over that prefabricated muck.

Of course it's real music. It may not be to your taste and that's fine. I wouldn't expect to hear a 10 year old blasting Cowboys From Hell on their way to their swimming lesson like.

Christy Moore does a huge amount of songs written by other people. Does that make him a less valid performer?

Wanderer78

VeryTerry wrote:

Of course it's real music. It may not be to your taste and that's fine. I wouldn't expect to hear a 10 year old blasting Coyboys From Hell on their way to their swimming lesson like.

They'd be one **** cool 10 year old in my eyes

L'Enfer du Nord

L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »

Plus technically this is in German (I Think) but realistically very few people ever listen to the words. So incoherent vocals have always had an audience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP9SX7V14Z4

Ps I hate Opera, at least pop songs are on 5 minutes long or less.

of course people listen - they're telling a story as well as showing off the skillz. good opera houses will have subtitles as well so you can follow along

hampson is very entertaining singing the figaro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLAeUDLnxs

20thC is definitely just noise though :pac:

Spleerbun

Given the light hearted banter in this thread and the abundance of emojis, I'm going to take advantage and ask how the heck you actually put emojis in your posts?? Prob an incredibly stupid question, the normal ones on my keypad just come out as squiggles. (I don't post much as you can tell!)

machiavellianme

NickNickleby wrote: »

THis exactly.

I tell my now adult kids that today's music has no 'story', and shock-horror, they agree with me.

Happy people have no stories...

machiavellianme

VeryTerry wrote: »

Of course it's real music. It may not be to your taste and that's fine. I wouldn't expect to hear a 10 year old blasting Coyboys From Hell on their way to their swimming lesson like.

Why not, we did when we were 10?
(maybe not the swimming lesson part, but certainly to the bog to foot turf, or to weed the beet or pick stones/strawberries /potatoes etc.)

Zorya

Tom Dunne wrote: »

As somebody whose taste in music can be somewhat eclectic, but firmly rooted in the pre-2000's, I decided to broaden my auditory horizon with the aid of Spotify. So the other day on the commute home, I put on a playlist called Top 50 Hits.

It consisted of either droning, nasal, wannabe starlets or angry urban youths.

As the playlist progressed, my inner Victor Meldrew came out in full force.

So many of them sound like they are holding their nose to sing, I don't get the love for the adenoidal drone

For the person looking for smilies they are at the side or bottom of reply box, just touch or click on them and they insert like this :cool::p

VeryTerry

machiavellianme wrote: »

Why not, we did when we were 10?
(maybe not the swimming lesson part, but certainly to the bog to foot turf, or to weed the beet or pick stones/strawberries /potatoes etc.)

Unless you have older siblings to guide you there's no chance you would be listening to metal at 10.

Wibbs

"Music these days..." said every old fart ever. And in twenty years time the next batch of old farts will be saying "in my day it was better" about yer wan Grande or whoever. While tastes and genres change, at any one time going back over the last hundred years most popular music was throwaway, or second rate, or utterly bloody dire. Nostalgia prunes the very best of it and makes our memories better.

Endless vocal warbling? Jazz had that for decades. Much of jazz was endless warbling anyway. A lot of folk music is similar. Irish reels go to endless warbling. Apparently there are changes going on, but there's only so much energy I can personally muster to listen for them. "Proper" Rock of the 70's? Had its moments, but there was an awful lot of endless warbling on guitars too, especially live. 80's spandex permed guitar heroes were worse. It all got very dull very quickly. Punk(and later Grunge) gained a lot of traction as an antidote to that guff, as it was a return to the old three minute song, get in get out, shake it all about. One of the hardest tricks to pull off well. An awful lot of punk was dross too.

Atoms for Peace

With today's generation no longer actually buying physical media in the future most of today's pop music could be lost and forgotten fairly quickly.

demanufactured

VeryTerry wrote: »

Of course it's real music. It may not be to your taste and that's fine. I wouldn't expect to hear a 10 year old blasting Cowboys From Hell on their way to their swimming lesson like.

Christy Moore does a huge amount of songs written by other people. Does that make him a less valid performer?

Well I blasted cowboys from hell on my way to swimming lessons as a kid ....thanks for igniting a memory.

Christy Moore is a legend.
Whether the tunes are written by other people or not is not the point I'm trying to make.
It's a amount of terrible crap that passes for music these days.

Write a half catchy tune that 10year olds will like because it makes a funny noise, and use a cash cow to "perform" it
No creativity.

machiavellianme

VeryTerry wrote: »

Unless you have older siblings to guide you there's no chance you would be listening to metal at 10.

Nope. I'm the oldest of 8 kids. Everyone in my village over 8 years old either listened to acdc/Metallica/Slayer/Megadeth/Guns n roses or Madonna back in the late 80s and early 90s. It was a long time till grunge found us in 1993. The joys of tape "sharing" amongst the u12 hurling team!

The Crowman

Wibbs wrote: »

"Music these days..." said every old fart ever. And in twenty years time the next batch of old farts will be saying "in my day it was better" about yer wan Grande or whoever. While tastes and genres change, at any one time going back over the last hundred years most popular music was throwaway, or second rate, or utterly bloody dire. Nostalgia prunes the very best of it and makes our memories better.

Endless vocal warbling? Jazz had that for decades. Much of jazz was endless warbling anyway. A lot of folk music is similar. Irish reels go to endless warbling. Apparently there are changes going on, but there's only so much energy I can personally muster to listen for them. "Proper" Rock of the 70's? Had its moments, but there was an awful lot of endless warbling on guitars too, especially live. 80's spandex permed guitar heroes were worse. It all got very dull very quickly. Punk(and later Grunge) gained a lot of traction as an antidote to that guff, as it was a return to the old three minute song, get in get out, shake it all about. One of the hardest tricks to pull off well. An awful lot of punk was dross too.

The warbling you get in songs today is different though, its a much more irritating variation that seems to be mainly influenced by black American gospel singing, but a bastardized poppier form of gospel.

Wibbs

The Crowman wrote: »

The warbling you get in songs today is different though, its a much more irritating variation that seems to be mainly influenced by black American gospel singing, but a bastardized poppier form of gospel.

Aye TC, but you could argue that endless 80's "metal" guitar warbling was bastardised poppier form of jazz guitar. Your Maamstein(sp) types.

Even the best genres that come along almost inevitably go rogue and some go full retard. Rap was a breath of fresh air. At first. The near second it went mainstream it started to circle the drain.

I suppose the current warbling in "soul" and "r&B"(and they're neither) is for a particular audience. I think of them as "Disco handbag" songs. Music for a type of young wan and her mates to dance around their handbags in the club. That audience has always been with us, all the way back to Sinatra's early days and it's a huge audience. It could come out with some bloody good music along the way. The Beatles were a "boyband" after all. At the start anyway. Plus for most of its history it was "manufactured" and songwriters were almost never the performers. These days it's just more honed and polished and targeted and bland. Risks don't usually sell so well.

The big diff today is we've never had so much choice in music and that's a good thing.

igCorcaigh

Good point about the choice of music being more now.

It may not seem like it on the surface, but search around and you will find a bewildering array of genres and sub-genres.

It just takes more work.

Anesthetize

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I've been listening to noise all my life, tis feckin great

I've been listening to Merzbow since I was a toddler.