Dine & Dash

1800_Ladladlad

There's particular topic that has showed on my twitter feed over the past couple of days, being to do with the outcry of racism against a while store manager of a Mexican food establishment in 'Murica. Please see the direct link to the thread on twitter below, where the videos show African 'Muricans playing the victim when in fact they are the cause of the situation which is a result of them being well known to the store for "Dining & Dashing" , running out and not paying for their food. The manager calls them out on it and denies them service but then these lads quickly pull the race card on the manager while video'ing the entire incident. It turns out that these guys have in fact ran out without paying their bill in this restaurant and surrounding establishments too, on multiple occasions. Whats comical is that these gimps have been broadcasting it all over twitter, bragging about there previous 'Dine & Dashes' in the restaurant in question. Seriously dumb.

As a result of this, the manger got sacked by the company almost instantly but then through their own investigation they realised that the their store manager was correct in refusing to serve these lads, considering what they have been up too. It appears she was contacted by the company and has been given her job back, they should have placed her on payed leave while they investigate but to sack her straight out is just asking for a lawsuit....I don't know whats happening with that. People took this for face value and that it was a legitimate case of racism. Retweets and likes don't mean anything but how a post can be portrayed and received is frightening and desperate.


https://twitter.com/Masudaliii/status/1063308017133854725

Whats your thoughts on running out on a bill without paying? Can you admit to doing it? Do you know anybody that has or still does this? Iv never left without paying and Id never think of think of doing it just like pullin a runner on a taxi, its not only immoral but you would have to be a scummer to do so.

'Murica

JustAYoungLad

Just admit you hate blacks. No need to make a huge self righteous paragraph.

Assetbacked

America is messed up. There is terrible racism over there. I think as Irish people we are pretty tolerant in general and, despite our enslaved ancestors, don't cry about it too much.

1800_Ladladlad

JustAYoungLad wrote: »

Just admit you hate blacks. No need to make a huge self righteous paragraph.

Lad, is that you?

Outlaw Pete

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Whats your thoughts on running out on a bill without paying?

I think what these dickheads did was much worse than doing a runner. They are exploiting the fact that in America it is a huge deal for someone to be remotely racist towards black people. They clearly are aware of this and are using the leverage and societal power that this then affords them to be dicks and try and get something for nothing.

Ultimately though I blame white liberals as it's their pandering and weaponizing of racial tensions which has resulted in this kind of thing being possible. Their addiction to social justice warrioring and virtue signalling is causing more division and racial tension than it's eradicating.

Kirby

JustAYoungLad wrote: »

Just admit you hate blacks. No need to make a huge self righteous paragraph.

The OP may be racist. I don't know him so I'd be guessing either way. But the "Dine and Ditch/Dash" phenomenon of eating somewhere and then buggering off he is talking about is actually an ongoing issue in America at the moment.

Social media and youtube has plenty of videos and stories about it and many of them involve black people. A person is not racist for acknowledging that.

Maybe there are just as many people of other races doing it. I don't know. I'm not an expert on it. But you seemed to jump to the racism card pretty quickly there mate.

facehugger99

A guy I went to college with did this in a city centre Eddie Rockets.

He was really drunk at the time and left his coat behind when he ran out, which obviously cost him more to replace than the meal he's just scoffed,

Feckin' eejit.

The coat was black I believe so I'm not sure if there was racism involved.

Graces7

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

There's particular topic that has showed on my twitter feed over the past couple of days, being to do with the outcry of racism against a while store manager of a Mexican food establishment in 'Murica. Please see the direct link to the thread on twitter below, where the videos show African 'Muricans playing the victim when in fact they are the cause of the situation which is a result of them being well known to the store for "Dining & Dashing" , running out and not paying for their food. The manager calls them out on it and denies them service but then these lads quickly pull the race card on the manager while video'ing the entire incident. It turns out that these guys have in fact ran out without paying their bill in this restaurant and surrounding establishments too, on multiple occasions. Whats comical is that these gimps have been broadcasting it all over twitter, bragging about there previous 'Dine & Dashes' in the restaurant in question. Seriously dumb.

As a result of this, the manger got sacked by the company almost instantly but then through their own investigation they realised that the their store manager was correct in refusing to serve these lads, considering what they have been up too. It appears she was contacted by the company and has been given her job back, they should have placed her on payed leave while they investigate but to sack her straight out is just asking for a lawsuit....I don't know whats happening with that. People took this for face value and that it was a legitimate case of racism. Retweets and likes don't mean anything but how a post can be portrayed and received is frightening and desperate.


https://twitter.com/Masudaliii/status/1063308017133854725

Whats your thoughts on running out on a bill without paying? Can you admit to doing it? Do you know anybody that has or still does this? Iv never left without paying and Id never think of think of doing it just like pullin a runner on a taxi, its not only immoral but you would have to be a scummer to do so.

'Murica

and this affects you how exactly?

ahnowbrowncow

Graces7 wrote: »

and this affects you how exactly?

No need to be snide, I'm sure you've commented on matters that don't directly affect you.

Atoms for Peace

I think we can all agree that anybody who films and posts such incidents is a complete wanker, whatever their skin colour.

JohnnyFlash

Graces7 wrote: »

and this affects you how exactly?

What a stupid comment.

OldMrBrennan83

Graces7 wrote: »

and this affects you how exactly?

Is that a pre-requisite for posting anything here?

Graces7

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

What a stupid comment.

Such an...... intelligent,,, response to a valid question

why? stupid? Just wondering why the thread was started and in such a racist way? Nothing to do with the OP... false moral outrage? Very forced and manipulated

In any case the answer is simple. Get folk to pay when they order

Graces7

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

No need to be snide, I'm sure you've commented on matters that don't directly affect you.

see my response below. Clearly seeking he was to stir up racism. why?

mad muffin

Give them their own state already so they can flourish. Actually… scratch that.

They already got their own country… aaaand in no time at all it failed and centuries later it’s one of the most dangerous and lawless countries on earth.

Spon Farmer

Graces7 wrote: »

Such an...... intelligent,,, response to a valid question

why? stupid? Just wondering why the thread was started and in such a racist way? Nothing to do with the OP... false moral outrage? Very forced and manipulated

In any case the answer is simple. Get folk to pay when they order

The "false moral outrage" is all your own. There was no racism in the post. The wrong doers in the story are black guys. The only thing "forced" is your comments. You are the one with the desperate need to "stir up" something.

And it stupid to criticise someone on a discussion board for commenting on something that doesn't affect them. Your did it by posting in the thread.

OldMrBrennan83

I'd say I can't believe we're at the stage where stealing is defended in case one would appear racist, but sadly I can well believe it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the opening post.

Spon Farmer

Kirby wrote: »

The OP may be racist. I don't know him so I'd be guessing either way. But the "Dine and Ditch/Dash" phenomenon of eating somewhere and then buggering off he is talking about is actually an ongoing issue in America at the moment.

Social media and youtube has plenty of videos and stories about it and many of them involve black people. A person is not racist for acknowledging that.

Maybe there are just as many people of other races doing it. I don't know. I'm not an expert on it. But you seemed to jump to the racism card pretty quickly there mate.

The comments of the original post are supported elsewhere, "a person is not racist for acknowledging that", you criticise the use of the "racism card" but you also say the OP might be a racist.

:rolleyes:

Spon Farmer

Patww79 wrote: »

I'd say I can't believe we're at the stage where stealing is defended in case one would appear racist, but sadly I can well believe it.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the opening post.

I can believe it.:rolleyes:

PowerToWait

Assetbacked wrote: »

America is messed up. There is terrible racism over there. I think as Irish people we are pretty tolerant in general and, despite our enslaved ancestors, don't cry about it too much.

Absolutely, isle of Saints, Scholars and stoic, tolerant angels.

Hector Savage

Graces7 wrote: »

Such an...... intelligent,,, response to a valid question

why? stupid? Just wondering why the thread was started and in such a racist way? Nothing to do with the OP... false moral outrage? Very forced and manipulated

In any case the answer is simple. Get folk to pay when they order

How was it racist ?
Please explain that one to us ...

Captain Obvious

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Ultimately though I blame white liberals

You should just make that your sig.

Hector Savage

Anyway, USA is such a divided nation, jesus I can't see how it will ever heal.
Doesn't help either when you have the media stirring up crap by screaming "racism" where there is none.
The whole starbucks incident was the same, a manager fired for being in the right, but company are so terrified of "racism" they force all their employees to attend 1984 style wrong think training.

Did you see the black lad that managed to spoof a free coffee from starbucks ?
They were so terrified they gave it to him too - man I wish I were black.

RWCNT

Assetbacked wrote: »

despite our enslaved ancestors, don't cry about it too much.

Because that didn't happen.

mad muffin wrote: »

Give them their own state already so they can flourish. Actually… scratch that.

They already got their own country… aaaand in no time at all it failed and centuries later it’s one of the most dangerous and lawless countries on earth.

Not a racist at all, like! Which country are you referring to BTW?

Gimme A Pound

Spon Farmer wrote: »

The comments of the original post are supported elsewhere, "a person is not racist for acknowledging that", you criticise the use of the "racism card" but you also say the OP might be a racist.

:rolleyes:

Think they just meant - in response to the gimpy posts stating the opening post is racist (and proving what's being referred to) - "Maybe the OP is racist, we don't know, but their point is still valid."

Spon Farmer

Hector Savage wrote: »

Anyway, USA is such a divided nation, jesus I can't see how it will ever heal.
Doesn't help either when you have the media stirring up crap by screaming "racism" where there is none.
The whole starbucks incident was the same, a manager fired for being in the right, but company are so terrified of "racism" they force all their employees to attend 1984 style wrong think training.

Did you see the black lad that managed to spoof a free coffee from starbucks ?
They were so terrified they gave it to him too - man I wish I were black.

I thought the Starbuck's thing was the manager called the police just because the lads were black?

EDIT: I'm not saying he deserved to be fired or anything, but my understanding was that those black lads hadn't done anything wrong.

FTA69

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I think what these dickheads did was much worse than doing a runner. They are exploiting the fact that in America it is a huge deal for someone to be remotely racist towards black people. They clearly are aware of this and are using the leverage and societal power that this then affords them to be dicks and try and get something for nothing.

Ultimately though I blame white liberals as it's their pandering and weaponizing of racial tensions which has resulted in this kind of thing being possible. Their addiction to social justice warrioring and virtue signalling is causing more division and racial tension than it's eradicating.

The lads are clearly dickheads and chancers. But I don't think white liberals, painful as they are, matter a huge amount to be honest. White liberals didn't invent racism in America. Racism is deeply engrained in that country, it was practically built on racism and it isn't going to go away if we just pretend that it doesn't exist. Black people are systematically discriminated against in things like employment, housing, the justice system etc etc - none of that is going to change if the liberal brigade stop banging a certain drum.

Black and white working class people in the broadest sense often share the same social economic problems in America, or at the very least their issues are caused by the same system. Where intersectionality and liberalism falls down is that it's great at compartmentalising people into identities and highlighting problems but rubbish at providing an alternative or a unifying call to tackle issues together.

As the Black Panther Fred Hampton said;

"We're not going to fight white racism with black racism, but with solidarity. We're not going to fight white capitalism with black capitalism, but with socialism."

Spon Farmer

Keagan Echoing Ketchup wrote: »

Think they just meant - in response to the gimpy posts stating the opening post is racist (and proving what's being referred to) - "Maybe the OP is racist, we don't know, but their point is still valid."

Yes I know. I was in no doubt about that. And it is ridiculous.

Please tell me you see why it is ridiculous.

RWCNT

RWCNT wrote: »

Not a racist at all, like! Which country are you referring to BTW?

Probably Liberia.

Kirby

Spon Farmer wrote: »

The comments of the original post are supported elsewhere, "a person is not racist for acknowledging that", you criticise the use of the "racism card" but you also say the OP might be a racist.

:rolleyes:

If a member of the KKK made the exact same post he did....it would be a post by a racist.

If the pope made the exact same post he did.....it wouldn't be.

Therefore my comment that the OP may be a racist is correct. He may be. He may not be. But nothing in THIS particular post he made indicated he was. Which is why I called into question the poster who flat out called him a racist.

Thats how the words may/might work. For example, you may be a man. Or you may not be. Nothing in your post indicates your sex one way or the other. Stating that you may be a man is not confirming you are. I'm not accusing you of something by making the statement.

Do you understand now?

Hector Savage

Spon Farmer wrote: »

I thought the Starbuck's thing was the manager called the police just because the lads were black?

EDIT: I'm not saying he deserved to be fired or anything, but my understanding was that those black lads hadn't done anything wrong.

Manager called the police cos they were hanging around in the cafe bought nothing and refused to leave.

didn't matter what colour you are, you can't just sit in a cafe and buy nothing, it's not a library.

But of course the media misrepresented it and lied and said "It was just cos they were black" - yeah sure :rolleyes:

So further stirring up division and pushing the whole "USA is a racist state" narrative

Spon Farmer

Kirby wrote: »

If a member of the KKK made the exact same post he did....it would be a post by a racist.

If the pope made the exact same post he did.....it wouldn't be.

Therefore my comment that the OP may be a racist is correct. He may be. He may not be. But nothing in THIS particular post he made indicated he was. Which is why I called into question the poster who flat out called him a racist.

Thats how the words may/might work. For example, you may be a man. Or you may not be. Nothing in your post indicates your sex one way or the other. Stating that you may be a man is not confirming you are. I'm not accusing you of something by making the statement.

Do you understand now?

All you are doing is repeating the same stupid thing.

The OP posted nothing racist but he might be a racist anyway.

Sure, at that rate you are might be drug dealer. Nothing in your post indicates you are or are not, but you might be.

Spon Farmer

Hector Savage wrote: »

Manager called the police cos they were hanging around in the cafe bought nothing and refused to leave.

didn't matter what colour you are, you can't just sit in a cafe and buy nothing, it's not a library.

But of course the media misrepresented it and lied and said "It was just cos they were black" - yeah sure :rolleyes:

So further stirring up division and pushing the whole "USA is a racist state" narrative

I remember hearing the story and that they were hanging around, I don't know if I knew that they had refused to buy or to leave - but like you said the story has misrepresented.

Kirby

Spon Farmer wrote: »

All you are doing is repeating the same stupid thing.

The OP posted nothing racist but he might be a racist anyway.

Sure, at that rate you are might be drug dealer. Nothing in your post indicates you are or are not, but you might be.

Correct. Now you get it.

FYI I'm not a drug dealer but until I said that, you had no idea if I was.....only common sense and probability. The odds of finding a casual racist online is a little higher than finding a dealer. At least outside Limerick forums.

Spon Farmer

Kirby wrote: »

Correct. Now you get it.

FYI I'm not a drug dealer but until I said that, you had no idea if I was.....only common sense and probability. The odds of finding a casual racist online is a little higher than finding a dealer. At least outside Limerick forums.

There is nothing to "get". It is just pure stupid.

And denying being a drug dealer is one of the things a drug dealer would do. So you probably are a drug dealer.

EDIT: It is gas that you use the phrase "common sense" in all this.

Kirby

I spoke too soon. Maybe you don't get it.

Spon Farmer

Kirby wrote: »

I spoke too soon. Maybe you don't get it.

No, you are just trying to defend an asinine comment made by someone else.

Gimme A Pound

Spon Farmer wrote: »

No, you are just trying to defend an asinine comment made by someone else.

You seem like you're just looking for offence. Obviously their comment meant "Maybe the OP is racist, but either way their view is valid and you don't have to be a racist to share it" - why get so angered by something so innocuous? It's not "defending" anyone.

Spon Farmer

Keagan Echoing Ketchup wrote: »

You seem like you're just looking for offence. Obviously their comment meant "Maybe the OP is racist, but either way their view is valid and you don't have to be a racist to share it" - why get so angered by something so innocuous? It's not "defending" anyone.

What makes you think I'm angry or offend?

I know what the original comment meant. Hence why I know it is a silly think to post.

Guy:Incognito

Kirby wrote: »

The OP may be racist. I don't know him so I'd be guessing either way. But the "Dine and Ditch/Dash" phenomenon of eating somewhere and then buggering off he is talking about is actually an ongoing issue in America at the moment.

Social media and youtube has plenty of videos and stories about it and many of them involve black people. A person is not racist for acknowledging that.

Maybe there are just as many people of other races doing it. I don't know. I'm not an expert on it. But you seemed to jump to the racism card pretty quickly there mate.

I suppose it's kind of like how no white people are ever shot by the police.........

Signore Fancy Pants

"Is it because Im black"?

No, it's because you are a thieving f.uckhead.

1800_Ladladlad

Graces7 wrote: »

Such an...... intelligent,,, response to a valid question

why? stupid? Just wondering why the thread was started and in such a racist way? Nothing to do with the OP... false moral outrage? Very forced and manipulated

In any case the answer is simple. Get folk to pay when they order

You're some ejit. You're one of these entitled, fisher price social warriors who gets offended on behalf of others. The post was made about the issue at hand, the false accusation of racism which lead to a person loosing their job and how serious the situation was. This has gone right over your head. My post affected you enough to respond to so your whole "argument" is redundant.

Gimme A Pound

JustAYoungLad wrote: »

Just admit you hate blacks. No need to make a huge self righteous paragraph.

Graces7 wrote: »

Just wondering why the thread was started and in such a racist way?

Graces7 wrote: »

Clearly seeking he was to stir up racism.

Absolutely zero evidence that they hate black people, and that it was to stir racism. The "clearly" is in your head, Grace. "Such a racist way" - how/where?

Very inflammatory comments for no reason.

Trying to get away with something you've done wrong because of the group you belong to - whatever group that is - is a low stunt.

BeerWolf

Pay before being served, sorted.

JustAYoungLad

Keagan Echoing Ketchup wrote: »

Absolutely zero evidence that they hate black people, and that it was to stir racism. The "clearly" is in your head, Grace. "Such a racist way" - how/where?

Very inflammatory comments for no reason.

Trying to get away with something you've done wrong because of the group you belong to - whatever group that is - is a low stunt.

‘God dont u hate it when people dine and dash?’

*proceeds to post racially charged videos to incite race discussion*

Be honest, it was never about dine and dash

Assetbacked

RWCNT wrote: »

Because that didn't happen.

You are correct.

In which case, I will change my point to the fact that American society is very different to Irish society whereby we have not had the same history of racism and slavery. Therefore, it is hard for us to appreciate both how tough it is to feel like a black person in American society and also to appreciate the flippancy of the race card being played.

seamus

JustAYoungLad wrote: »

‘God dont u hate it when people dine and dash?’

*proceeds to post racially charged videos to incite race discussion*

Be honest, it was never about dine and dash

This. I'm kind of bemused by the OP.

The main point of the video is a discussion on racism.

But then the OP asks about dining and dashing.

Odd.

Anyway, never done it myself. A load of us once walked out of a restaurant without paying because we all thought someone else had paid. We only realised when we got to the pub and started asking each other how much we owed.

Went back and paid the bill. Oddly the staff hadn't even realised we'd left.

At a hotel in Trieste, we wandered in one morning and asked if it was possible to get breakfast. A guy told us it would be 20 euro, just head on over to the buffet there. So we had a nice breakfast and when we were leaving the guy we'd talked to was gone. We could have just walked out, but we we were honest and spent ten minutes at the till while they figured out how to actually charge us for breakfast.

andekwarhola

Remember when the Internet wasn't full of opposing ideological teams dredging up American social media flotsam and jetsam around the clock?

ceadaoin.

I don't know how it's possible to dine and dash at Chipotle? It's a fast food place, you pay before or when you get the food. Unless they grabbed the bag and legged it out the door when it was put on the counter and before they had paid. If they were known for doing this then she was right to refuse to hand over the food until they had paid, regardless of their skin colour.

King of Kings

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

You're some ejit. Your one of these entitled, fisher price social warriors who gets offended on behalf of others.

fisher price social warrior
beautiful. absolutely beautiful.

seamus

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't know how it's possible to dine and dash at Chipotle? It's a fast food place, you pay before or when you get the food. Unless they grabbed the bag and legged it out the door when it was put on the counter and before they had paid. If they were known for doing this then she was right to refuse to hand over the food until they had paid, regardless of their skin colour.

Probably even more brazen than that. US customer service is notoriously open.

Probably got to the till, and said, "Oh ****, I just realised I left my wallet at home". Guy tells him that's OK, he can pay next time.

Of course, he doesn't pay, but instead comes back and pulls the same trick a couple of more times before the manager finally has enough of his ****.

Saw a similar story on reddit about a woman who would come into a restaurant once a week, order the same dish for lunch, eat it and then complain that it was "different" from the last time and demand it was given to her for free. America being America, she got away with it for months before a manager eventually told her she could pay for her lunch or be banned for life.