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Anyone ever put a K&N filter into a VW?

  • 31-10-2018 10:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭


    Was considering trying it out - thanks


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    It's never been done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭tossy


    euser1984 wrote: »
    Was considering trying it out - thanks

    I have and it destroyed the MAF within in a very short space of time, the MAF was probably on the way out anyway - K&N are a bit old hat now there are far better options out there like ITG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Pure waste of money, unless you are going full hat with ECU/engine upgrades.

    If its just a cone filter your putting in, expect a possible decrease in torque if you adjust the intake manifold length/volume. This length/volume is very important on the inlet manifold with non-turbo systems with the engines air intake pulse waves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You'd be better off with go faster stripes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Or a short shifter kit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Farfromhome02


    +1 with the go faster stripes,underated
    Wash and wax bonnet too will add at least 10hp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,754 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    "Into a VW"...that narrows it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    What’s with the smarmy comments? It’s a legitimate question.

    Although it would help if you told us which model/engine VW and perhaps also what type of K&N filter you are looking at? .. Open cone filter? Enclosed Panel filter?

    I had an enclosed RamAir panel filter on my A4 TDI and it made a nice difference.

    It was a foam filter with slightly larger surface area and car felt smoohter and more free revving, particularly as it approached the redline.

    I’d say it contributed to increased perofrmance too.

    Would suggest you look at RamAir and ITG filters, not just K&N.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Farfromhome02


    It's called having a sense of humour,seems like it's hard to come by in this day and age

    Google is full of information on k and n filters

    Personally i would just stick to a good OEM filter
    That's just my own opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭StereoSound


    I use to buy these free flowing filter systems years back when I was younger, made my old 1.3 lancer I had years ago sound like a Subaru, did absolutely nothing in terms of power though. They might benefit a turbo charged engine, I may fit one to my Octavia RS at a later stage as I plan to map the car at some stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Popoutman


    K&N filters are really crappy things to put into any car. Allow loads of dust and grit and abrasive crap to get right into the engine's internals, without *any* benefit from a power point of view. If you can see pinholes of light through a filter when it's held up to the light, then you'll get dust particles big enough to cause damage to be passed into the engine.

    The pressure drop across a proper OEM filter is barely measurable at a tiny amount of a single percentage point of atmospheric pressure - effectively zero for all practical purposes. This means that the filter has less effect on the airflow than e.g. a bend in the pipe somewhere between the throttle and intake valve. Changing out the OEM filter for a "free-flowing" filter means you get no effect whatsoever on the engine's air usage, and a much decreased filtering of incoming air.

    By all means if you want the engine internals to be destroyed over time - especially in a daily driver, then throw money away with a non-OEM filter. Otherwise be sensible and use OEM all of the time..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    By K&N filter do you mean a regular filter, just K&N brand?

    air_filter_boxes.jpg


    Or a cone filter?

    KN-filter-media.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭tossy


    I've been using non oem filters in performance enignes for years and doing decent mileage with no ill effects, apart from the crappy K&N one that killed my MAF. My current car has an ITG/Revo filter in it, my last performance car had an ITG and the one before that had a Jetex after the K&N.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Assuming the OP has a 2018 1.0 TSI Golf, are there any benefits to the filter alone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭Interslice


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Assuming the OP has a 2018 1.0 TSI Golf, are there any benefits to the filter alone?

    Depends on if at the top end of the power band if the car is more limited by the intake or the exhaust. Assuming tsi or tdi, i you were deleting cat dpf etc. and remapping then a competition air filter would add to the mix. A cone filter on a turbo stock car will just change the induction noise. Unless the old filter is blocked you wont get a performace increase. FI engine especially diesel are always limited by the exhaust restriction and not the intake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    It'll sound slightly.... slightly, more whooshy maybe. Feel and hear all of that 110/115bhp, rarrrrrr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭Interslice


    dar83 wrote: »
    It'll sound slightly.... slightly, more whooshy maybe. Feel and hear all of that 110/115bhp, rarrrrrr.

    They say of the perception of the speed is from sound :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    Interslice wrote: »
    They say of the perception of the speed is from sound :)

    Perception and actual are very different things. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭Interslice


    dar83 wrote: »
    Perception and actual are very different things. :P

    That should have said half the perception :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    "Into a VW"...that narrows it down.

    Here's a K&N filter in a VW

    Admittedly in the boot, but still in a VW...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    OP, I was getting an engine built and when I arrived with a K&N to put on the new Webber's, the engine builder threw it in the bin and told me to get an ITG filter.

    However, this was on a proper engine being built with lots of upgrades and the standard airbox couldn't get enough air. For a standard engine I wouldn't bother.


  • Posts: 846 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I put a K&N enclosed cone filter in my naturally aspirated car. It looks nice, sounds nice and will likely last the remaining life of the car with a bit of occasional maintenance. What harm?

    I don't want to make my car faster, I just want it to feel faster. That way I can have more enjoyment without having to do anything illegal or risky.


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