Kids gaming PC

Blackgator

Sister is getting a pc for her son for Xmas. He's 8. Plays mostly Minecraft and Fortnite. He will also be doing homework and learning on it.

I don't know if I should go for an APU or a budget CPU & GPU (i3 and 1050 or a 2400G).


1. What is your budget?
€450

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?
Gaming PC

3. Do you need a copy of Windows?
No

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
No

5. Do you need a monitor?
No

5a. If yes, what size do you need.
n/a

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future?
1080, not upgrading anytime soon .

6. Do you need any of these peripherals?
No

7. Are you willing to try overclocking?
Yes

8. How can you pay?
Debit card/Visa/Cheque/IBAN

9. When are you purchasing?
ASAP

10. If you need help building it, where are you based?
Donegal, but should be okay.

Blackgator

So far I have this build.
What you guys think?

∆CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.99 @ Aria PC)∆
∆Motherboard: MSI - A320M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£42.48 @ Ebuyer) ∆
∆Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£116.33 @ Ebuyer)∆
∆Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.29 @ Aria PC) ∆
∆Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£20.39 @ Aria PC)∆
∆Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.97 @ Amazon UK) ∆
Total: £384.45

TerrorFirmer

16GB memory is way overkill for a low budget machine.

Get a Ryzen 1400 and GTX1050 combo with 8GB ram, the 2400G is grand for those games but way off a 1050 peformance wise.

Blackgator

Ok, does this look better?
Would have an extra £50 or so to spend so what could I change? CPU upgrade, 1050ti, or SSD?

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£110.98 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-A320M-S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£41.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£47.31 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.29 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB StormX Video Card (£104.32 @ Box Limited)
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case (£20.39 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £398.24

TerrorFirmer

I'd take a better GPU for sure. You're not buying from all those seperate places I assume, Ebuyer don't deliver here at all and you'd be paying a lot on seperate postage charges!

Also unless I'm mistaken some of those prices are wrong - 8GB DDR4 2400mhz for example, I don't see that on Amazon for anything close to that price.

GTX1050Ti is a good upgrade, but some places now have the RX570 for £160, much better, and it comes with 3 new release games worth more than half that.

K.O.Kiki

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I'd take a better GPU for sure. You're not buying from all those seperate places I assume, Ebuyer don't deliver here at all and you'd be paying a lot on seperate postage charges!

Also unless I'm mistaken some of those prices are wrong - 8GB DDR4 2400mhz for example, I don't see that on Amazon for anything close to that price.

GTX1050Ti is a good upgrade, but some places now have the RX570 for £160, much better, and it comes with 3 new release games worth more than half that.

According to the Amazon listing, The Tech Warehouse & Kikatek are selling 1x8Gb DDR4-2400 for £46.53.

You're right of course about the eBuyer prices.
But I don't see any way to fit an RX570 into this budget!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£58.76 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£46.53)
Storage: Mushkin - Source 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£34.32 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB StormX Video Card (£109.98 @ CCL Computers)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.28 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX - XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.93 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £394.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-31 13:08 GMT+0000

Skerries

rx570 for €159

K.O.Kiki

Skerries wrote: »

rx570 for €159

Do Mindfactory deliver outside Germany yet?

I know there's an EU directive forcing them to come December, but I haven't looked into it further.

Skerries

they do but looks like they have raised their delivery significantly from the last time I ordered
shame as I was looking at a Vega 64

https://www.mindfactory.de/info_center.php/icID/13

Blackgator

Ok, it's D-day for ording this pc or parts.

Last question.

Would this prebuilt be a better option?

MSI Nightblade MI3 7RA-054UK Desktop PC - (Black) (Intel i5-7400 3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, GTX 1050, Windows 10 Home)

£430stg (€486)

K.O.Kiki

Give me a 20 mins, I'll look through Amazon sale prices too.

K.O.Kiki

OK, so same as the other budget build topic:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£75.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£49.03 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£56.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£29.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card (£148.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.28 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - ECO 430 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£45.46 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £438.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-17 14:16 GMT+0000

Reason why I'm recommending to spend a little extra on RX 570 over GTX 1050 is that you will get more long-term value - realistically you probably won't have to update for 3+ years whereas GTX 1050 might be outdated TODAY.



You can save a few euro buying used DDR4 RAM, e.g. 55 eur on CEX or bid low on Adverts.ie (here, or here). RAM doesn't degrade over time so buying used is safe.