Fallout 76

Samuel T. Cogley

Does anyone know when the BETA actually starts? I put it at 11pm GMT but the count down seems to suggest 9PM GMT and some websites have it at 3AM on the 31st?


Thanks in advance!

Samuel T. Cogley

LOL 46GB folder just deleted itself.

TheValeyard

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

LOL 46GB folder just deleted itself.

Yep. Widely reported. Really bad bug. beta extended to fix problems.

Samuel T. Cogley

Got in, in the end - not overly impressed but I'll stick with it.

Spear

The latest issue is that events are tied to your frame rate, so higher frame rate means faster actions and in turn speed hacks have appeared. This seems fairly worryingly like Bethesda are out of their depth with an MMO.

TheValeyard

Hate to say it, but I think this needs a lot of work. This could be going to the wasteland and staying there.

Samuel T. Cogley

Just cancelled my preorder - I'd rather play one of the older games or mods.

dreamers75

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Just cancelled my preorder - I'd rather play one of the older games or mods.

New California is out for Vegas (last week) its pretty good so far.

TheValeyard

dreamers75 wrote: »

New California is out for Vegas (last week) its pretty good so far.

It has amazing detail

TheValeyard

The lack of NPCs is just too weird. (in F76)

TrueDub

dreamers75 wrote: »

New California is out for Vegas (last week) its pretty good so far.

Started playing this over the weekend. It's not perfect, but it's bloody good considering it's a free mod. The story seems fairly complex, and it's tough going. Really enjoying it so far.

TrueDub

Fallout 76 launching at midnight here - anyone planning on playing?

I will be, but maybe not for a few days, as I've a lot on at the moment.

Kiith

It's already live. Started a few hours ago apparently. Not interested myself, as it's missing pretty much everything that makes a Fallout game good imo.

Shiminay

Oh, is it live? I might see who's streaming it and what sorta shape it's in. I won't be playing it any time soon, sounds like it's a hot mess of bugs, so it might be worth waiting a year till they fix it

Lone Stone

i was on the fence decided to give it a pass, just looks like the most monotonous parts of fallout 4 ie picking up every bit of crap you can see and shooting ghouls and reading terminals made into one game..

Samuel T. Cogley

Lone Stone wrote: »

i was on the fence decided to give it a pass, just looks like the most monotonous parts of fallout 4 ie picking up every bit of crap you can see and shooting ghouls and reading terminals made into one game..

That's exactly what it is.

Spear

I'm going to pass too. Nothing I've seen inspires confidence, and there's only cause for concern. The engine is outdated and grossly inappropriate for an MMO, there's no content or story, you're just grinding for the privilege of messing around in the build interface, and only to have that smashed randomly by another players nuke. This will appear in Humble Bundles in about 6 months time, if not sooner.

MadYaker

What the f are bethesda at these days? No word of a new elder scrolls and this can't have taken long to make. We need a new engine and it needs to be good.

degrassinoel

MadYaker wrote: »

What the f are bethesda at these days? No word of a new elder scrolls and this can't have taken long to make. We need a new engine and it needs to be good.

Announced back in June, nothing much or at all, since then though

Lone Stone

MadYaker wrote: »

What the f are bethesda at these days? No word of a new elder scrolls and this can't have taken long to make. We need a new engine and it needs to be good.

actually i was watching or reading some thing the other day i forget which, todd howard basically suggested they are actually using the same engine for star field and es6 ah it was yong yeaahhhh on youtube or what ever his name is.

dreamers75

Lone Stone wrote: »

actually i was watching or reading some thing the other day i forget which, todd howard basically suggested they are actually using the same engine for star field and es6 ah it was yong yeaahhhh on youtube or what ever his name is.

Epic are basicially using the same Unreal engine from the late 90s, ID are basically using the same Quake engine from the same year, DICE are basicially using the same Frostbite engine from early 00s..........

I wouldnt read into spamtastic ****e or reddit ****e without having an inkling of what it means.

saneman

dreamers75 wrote: »

Epic are basicially using the same Unreal engine from the late 90s, ID are basically using the same Quake engine from the same year, DICE are basicially using the same Frostbite engine from early 00s..........

I wouldnt read into spamtastic ****e or reddit ****e without having an inkling of what it means.

To a certain extent I agree but to quote some reddit ****e (https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/comments/4os0fj/clearing_misconceptions_on_netimmerse_gamebryo/):

"NetImmerse (Morrowind) and Gamebryo (Oblivion/Fallout 3 & NV) and the Creation Engine (Skyrim/Fallout 4) are as different as they are similar, and it is indeed very justifiable to call them different engines. The only things that remain are a few vestigial bones. The IP that Bethesda originally licensed has been gradually replaced, piece-by-piece, until it's now its own animal, but many of the bones are showing their age. Some of those bones could be replaced perhaps, but at a considerable effort. There is a point when software just needs a clean-slate rewrite before it becomes too unweildly and burdened by legacy code to function efficiently or predictably."

What I saw of FO76 from E3 looked soulless gave me no confidence that it would hold any interest for me and that certainly hasn't changed. They've made gameplay choices that just don't suit the current engine/framework given that what they'd iterated up to that point was for a single player experience. I mean just pick VATS as one example, it was a core feature of Fallout, but wtf's the point if it's in realtime?

TerrorFirmer

I got it for Xbox One X because friends are playing it that way and the game was obviously built to be a social experience.....overall, game isn't terrible, really not as bad as I expected and pretty engaging so far, can't see myself putting 100s of hours into it or anything like 'proper' FO titles, but could easily waste away 50-60 anyway I'd say, which isn't bad value.

Framerate is utter trash on the consoles though (avg about 25-30 and regularly drops to about 15-20 when a lot is going on), would really rather be playing it on PC. I don't know how people actually put up with Fallout on console, I've no problem with locked 30fps, but frequent drops to 15fps is a joke for any FPS title.

It was the same for FO4.

TrueDub

I've been playing this for a good few weeks now, and I have to say I'm really enjoying it. It is a bit odd having no human NPCs, and the multiplayer side of things is of no interest to me, but in general I'm enjoying the questing, exploration and combat.

TheValeyard

The game has grown on me. Think I'm enjoying it more than F4

TrueDub

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

The game has grown on me. Think I'm enjoying it more than F4

I'm definitely enjoying it, but not as much as F4. I do miss the human NPCs.

ElNino

There are rumours now that it is going free to play. Sounds like sales were a complete disaster for Bethesda.

Kiith

It's definitely the worst launch, if only from a PR point of view, that i can ever remember.

Skerries

there was a fallout alright

Kiith

Skerries wrote: »

there was a fallout alright

TheValeyard

Wonder if it goes F2P would they refund those who bought the game or would the Fallout community and game base explode.