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College or work

  • 24-10-2018 8:30pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭


    I have always loved learning and the college atmosphere and always hated work or just work was a daily struggle. I went to college straight after school. I have given up work in my late 20s to go back to college. And here I am again in my 30s, gave up with work and I'm six weeks back in college.

    I'm sitting here with an assignment to do and I'm questioning this whole college thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    I have always loved learning and the college atmosphere and always hated work or just work was a daily struggle. I went to college straight after school. I have given up work in my late 20s to go back to college. And here I am again in my 30s, gave up with work and I'm six weeks back in college.

    I'm sitting here with an assignment to do and I'm questioning this whole college thing.

    What are you questioning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Chin up, ol boy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,787 ✭✭✭Feisar


    The tab, who's paying it.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Nice position to be in to just "give up work" in your 30's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    A little less procrastination......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I'm sitting here with an assignment to do and I'm questioning this whole college thing.


    If you’re able to afford to go to college, and you enjoy it, where’s the problem?

    What are the questions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,787 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Reread the OP.

    Dude/Dudess! You don't seem to need a wage to make ends meet! Chill the beans, you are sorted!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    There is a guy I went to school with. Only child to very wealthy parents who will inherit it all when they go. He only finished college in 2016. We done our leaving cert together in 1996.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,787 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Putinbot wrote: »
    There is a guy I went to school with. Only child to very wealthy parents who will inherit it all when they go. He only finished college in 2016. We done our leaving cert together in 1996.

    First generation makes it. 2nd generation maintains it, 3rd generation blows it.

    Tis very hard build an empire.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Little Less Conversation


    Nice position to be in to just "give up work" in your 30's

    I'm child free, so why not?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    I'm child free, so why not?
    You're the one who started the thread. Are you just looking for validation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Pelvis wrote: »
    You're the one who started the thread. Are you just looking for validation?


    Aye, a little more information would be more helpful alright :D


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Putinbot wrote: »
    There is a guy I went to school with. Only child to very wealthy parents who will inherit it all when they go. He only finished college in 2016. We done our leaving cert together in 1996.
    Yeah but there not many of you who do their leaving cert aged 6


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Little Less Conversation


    What are you questioning?

    It's just too hard. College work isn't easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    I'm sitting here with an assignment to do and I'm questioning this whole college thing.

    Just do the assignment. And then see if you're still questioning it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It's just too hard. College work isn't easy.

    Did it take until your third time there to realise this?

    It's not meant to be easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    It's just too hard. College work isn't easy.


    It appears you’re questioning whether to work or not to work, and if not work, college, and if not college, then what?

    Well there’s plenty of other options open to you as long as you have the means to avail of the opportunities, such as travelling, whether it be at home or abroad, volunteering is a good one, so long as you have the means to support yourself, but whatever you do, don’t do nothing, that’s not likely to lead to anything positive in your future.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Little Less Conversation


    Did it take until your third time there to realise this?

    It's not meant to be easy.

    I always found it easy until now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    I have always loved learning and the college atmosphere and always hated work or just work was a daily struggle. I went to college straight after school. I have given up work in my late 20s to go back to college. And here I am again in my 30s, gave up with work and I'm six weeks back in college.

    I'm sitting here with an assignment to do and I'm questioning this whole college thing.

    So you went to college to avoid work, and now they've given you work in college :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    I'm questioning this whole college thing.

    If you're questioning how to live without a wage while studying as an adult...just do what loads of us did, go to college part-time while working and look to get a better job when you graduate.

    If you're not questioning how to live without a wage......eh....why aren't you?


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  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's entirely subjective, but avoid abstraction and get into practical knowledge that will be conducive to an economically viable profession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    It's just too hard. College work isn't easy.

    I'm 50 years old, married with three children. My wife was diagnosed with MS after our third child was born and unable to work. I'll also add that two of our children are special needs.

    I work 60 hours a week (with a 15-20 hours per week commute). I'm in college taking a course (for fun) at the moment as well as studying the guitar.

    When my shoulder holds up, I try to swim three-four days per week. My swims are anywhere from one to three hours long (at the moment, the shoulder is not holding up).

    On the weekends, I look after the house, garden and kids during the day. At night, I make sure to take my wife out as much as possible. We'll see friends, hit the local, take in a gig. It's exhausting, but it's not just about me. Best advice my father gave me was "happy wife, happy life".

    Time flies by because despite the obstacles, we're making the most out of everything.

    So enough about me and my story. You were saying that you're in college and it's hard?

    That's too bad, because life is so easy for everyone else. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    I went to college after taking a gap year to work.

    I probably should have given college a miss, as my course wasn't worth much. It certainly hasn't had any impact on getting work.

    Work in a sector which requires no third level education.

    Socially college was probably good for me, made a few friends during my time there, but it's 8 years since graduating and only in touch with one of those friends.

    I just think a lot of the courses on offer are a complete waste of time(mine included). There seems to be a push to get a third level education in any field.

    I know two lads who just completed their leaving cert, both got jobs working in a factory. Once they get made permanent, they get pension & health insurance and starting salary of €28 grand.

    If I had known that 12 years ago, that's the route I'd have gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    I'm 50 years old, married with three children. My wife was diagnosed with MS after our third child was born and unable to work. I'll also add that two of our children are special needs.

    I work 60 hours a week (with a 15-20 hours per week commute). I'm in college taking a course (for fun) at the moment as well as studying the guitar.

    When my shoulder holds up, I try to swim three-four days per week. My swims are anywhere from one to three hours long (at the moment, the shoulder is not holding up).

    On the weekends, I look after the house, garden and kids during the day. At night, I make sure to take my wife out as much as possible. We'll see friends, hit the local, take in a gig. It's exhausting, but it's not just about me. Best advice my father gave me was "happy wife, happy life".

    Time flies by because despite the obstacles, we're making the most out of everything.

    So enough about me and my story. You were saying that you're in college and it's hard?

    That's too bad, because life is so easy for everyone else. :rolleyes:


    You work a twelve hour day? Five days a week? With a commute of three to four hours each day? And go to college? And swim three or four days a week?

    How?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Try out a drilldo some afternoon and see how you feel about finishing your course then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    I went to college after taking a gap year to work.

    I probably should have given college a miss, as my course wasn't worth much. It certainly hasn't had any impact on getting work.

    Work in a sector which requires no third level education.

    Socially college was probably good for me, made a few friends during my time there, but it's 8 years since graduating and only in touch with one of those friends.

    I just think a lot of the courses on offer are a complete waste of time(mine included). There seems to be a push to get a third level education in any field.

    I know two lads who just completed their leaving cert, both got jobs working in a factory. Once they get made permanent, they get pension & health insurance and starting salary of €28 grand.

    If I had known that 12 years ago, that's the route I'd have gone

    Too many people going to college doing nothing courses these days. Every corner boy seems to have a Degree nowadays.

    Degree no good now. You gotta have a Masters.:rolleyes:

    Lots of these people would have been better off doing an apprenticeship...

    But their snobbish parents & social circle/Whassup group wouldn't countenance such an endeavor. Oh God no!

    This folks is what we call a progressive society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    JayRoc wrote: »
    You work a twelve hour day? Five days a week? With a commute of three to four hours each day? And go to college? And swim three or four days a week?

    How ?

    Clue is in his username.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    Clue is in his username.

    Maths isn't my strong point, but....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    JayRoc wrote: »
    Maths isn't my strong point, but....

    Rented Mule.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Too many people going to college doing nothing courses these days. Every corner boy seems to have a Degree nowadays.

    Degree no good now. You gotta have a Masters.:rolleyes:

    Lots of these people would have been better off doing an apprenticeship...

    But their snobbish parents & social circle/Whassup group wouldn't countenance such an endeavor. Oh God no!

    This folks is what we call a progressive society.

    Thankfully my parents didn't mind what i did. But it was either college or full time employment*

    But i was the first in my family(on my fathers side) to complete third level education.

    *wasn't a huge amount around at the time, or at least that i could find. Didn't know enough about looking for jobs either...ah to be 18 again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    Rented Mule.

    Eh, I get that. I am saying (as much as I respect his situation) unless he has a time machine I don't see how he could be

    working 12 hours a day

    commuting 3- 4 hours a day

    swimming 1- 3 hours 3 - 4 times a week

    going to college

    learning how to play guitar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    There are kilos of info you could learn.

    Part time job.. Tons of learning. You need to decide what is important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    JayRoc wrote: »
    Eh, I get that. I am saying (as much as I respect his situation) unless he has a time machine I don't see how he could be

    working 12 hours a day

    commuting 3- 4 hours a day

    swimming 1- 3 hours 3 - 4 times a week

    going to college

    learning how to play guitar

    Shush now. Don't let logic get in the way of a good 'I have it harder than you' story.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A degree is very useful for living around the world. Sure, most people end up doing something pointless, but mine lets me live in Asia legally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I have always loved learning and the college atmosphere and always hated work or just work was a daily struggle. I went to college straight after school. I have given up work in my late 20s to go back to college. And here I am again in my 30s, gave up with work and I'm six weeks back in college.

    I'm sitting here with an assignment to do and I'm questioning this whole college thing.

    The worst thing you'll be is poor, irregardless of what decisions you make.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    JayRoc wrote: »
    You work a twelve hour day? Five days a week? With a commute of three to four hours each day? And go to college? And swim three or four days a week?

    How?


    Some of the work is done when you get home. You log in remotely and finish up whatever needs to be done. There are changes that have to go in after hours.

    College is four hours on Tuesday night
    Guitar is on Thursday night
    Two of the swims are always at the weekend.

    You have to rigourously schedule your time. It's not easy. You just keep going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    Shush now. Don't let logic get in the way of a good 'I have it harder than you' story.

    It's not a "harder life than you". I just found the "college is hard" line to be funny.

    I'm very well compensated and have every intention of retiring early. My father was able to retire at 52. He lived a very full life after he retired. I plan on doing the same.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Little Less Conversation


    I'll never get this assignment done. Just signed up to Netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    JayRoc wrote: »
    Eh, I get that. I am saying (as much as I respect his situation) unless he has a time machine I don't see how he could be

    working 12 hours a day

    commuting 3- 4 hours a day

    swimming 1- 3 hours 3 - 4 times a week

    going to college

    learning how to play guitar

    Commutes in a DeLorean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    JayRoc wrote: »
    Eh, I get that. I am saying (as much as I respect his situation) unless he has a time machine I don't see how he could be

    working 12 hours a day

    commuting 3- 4 hours a day

    swimming 1- 3 hours 3 - 4 times a week

    going to college

    learning how to play guitar




    Maybe he gets paid to learn to play the guitar. It's part of his job. 2 hours a day. Does it when he gets home.


    Swims part of the way to work. That's two hours a day. Jogs the other two hours. Takes calls on his waterproof bluetooth on the way. That's four hours work total outside of the office.


    He has so much done when he gets to the office that he spends the other 6 hours studying for collage in between the odd work call and shouting at junior staff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I'll never get this assignment done. Just signed up to Netflix.






    Just wait until you discover that the internet is full of photos of young wans posting pictures of themselves in the nip!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Never met a poor plumber


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Too many people going to college doing nothing courses these days. Every corner boy seems to have a Degree nowadays.

    Degree no good now. You gotta have a Masters.:rolleyes:

    Lots of these people would have been better off doing an apprenticeship...

    But their snobbish parents & social circle/Whassup group wouldn't countenance such an endeavor. Oh God no!

    This folks is what we call a progressive society.
    Indeed. I've started seeing some of the most entry level IT Jobs, First Level helpdesk etc, looking for College Degrees -absolutely crazy stuff.

    Anyway, OP, fair play to you for being able to make those life changes. I am not sure if I'd like to be in full time college in my 30s though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,829 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Never met a poor plumber




    I never met a poor one, nor a wealthy one, either


    Couldn't be fraternizing with the working classes now could I


    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭CIP4


    I went straight to college after leaving cert did my four year degree and while I enjoyed it I was sick of it by fourth year and just wanted a job, independence and money. Started work straight away after finishing college in 2016.

    Decided then to go back in September this year part time while still working full time I am only doing an add on diploma so only a year but it is tough going I have a whole new respect for people who do whole degrees part time over several years while still working. In my case I don’t find the course overly challenging but it’s the time aspect is the killer. All the assignments and study really eat into any free time in the evenings and weekends. Still I do enjoy learning new things so it’s worthwhile to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    It's not a "harder life than you". I just found the "college is hard" line to be funny.

    I'm very well compensated and have every intention of retiring early. My father was able to retire at 52. He lived a very full life after he retired. I plan on doing the same.

    'Hard' is not an absolute. Plenty of people have it harder than you or I but doesn't make our own situation less hard.

    Pointing out everything in your own life that you perceive to be hard and then quipping at the end implies that the op actually has it easy but in reality you have no idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    Some of the work is done when you get home. You log in remotely and finish up whatever needs to be done. There are changes that have to go in after hours.

    College is four hours on Tuesday night
    Guitar is on Thursday night
    Two of the swims are always at the weekend.

    You have to rigourously schedule your time. It's not easy. You just keep going.

    Work is down t'mine to which he walks barefoot with hundredth weight of coal strapped to back. They don't make em like they used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭rom


    kippy wrote: »
    Indeed. I've started seeing some of the most entry level IT Jobs, First Level helpdesk etc, looking for College Degrees -absolutely crazy stuff.

    Anyway, OP, fair play to you for being able to make those life changes. I am not sure if I'd like to be in full time college in my 30s though.

    Its entry level yes but the expectation in IT is that you will learn and grow in the org. You won't be at that level for long once they skill up. Without a strong foundation is will be difficult for someone to progress. Not many are going to stay at the bottom rung of the ladder for 20 years in IT.

    If a job is technical and in IT and doesn't need some 3rd level qualification or industry cert its not a technical job no matter how much the person has learned externally.

    Education is a foundation. Lots who have it are sh1te in the workforce also but it does help to have a good foundation.


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