Should we ban private car use?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

"A NASA study declared that automobiles were officially the largest net contributor of climate change pollution in the world."

For example, the area of Little Island on the east side of Cork City has 87% of people travel by car each day into the area. That is going beyond the unthinkable when it comes to trying to tackle climate change.

We rely on our agricultural industry far more in Ireland than other countries, so that is a much more difficult issue to tackle.
But weening ourselves off our massive over reliance on the automobile should be top of the agenda if we genuinely care about the environment.

TheValeyard

No

demanufactured

No.

Absolutely no way.

Atlantic Dawn

I think the future is car sharing, current useage where cars spend on average 90% plus of their time sitting idle is unsustainable.

OldMrBrennan83

I'll go with no too. Especially not for 'climate change'

Gimme a chopper.

ratracer

Yes.

wexie

No, moronic and unworkable idea.

Can't read the article (loads and then blanks the screen) but I'd love to see the numbers on that (not enough really to disable my ad blocker).

Pretzill

No but we could improve the national and rural public transport system. If I didnt have a private car I either wouldn't leave the house or would be travelling dangerous roads on foot or by bike.

I do think if I lived where the public transport system was good (coughs - Dublin) I certainly wouldn't use the car as much.

lalababa

Not a bad idea to ban private single use cars. We would cope no problem, like when we used not have cars. But we are lazy fu*kers I'm afraid and the norm is the norm ,and the powers that be don't care 'coz we don't.

ShaneC93

Lets outlaw cows while we're at it, they are a greater contributor to climate change than vehicle emissions.

No, don't ban car usage but Ireland could do with investing in better electric care infrastructure and tax-back / incentive schemes to incentivise electric car ownership which can in turn lower emissions over time significantly.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Let's ban everything!

Specialun

the reason little island has such high numbers of drivers is coz it has ****e public transport

OldMrBrennan83

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Let's ban everything!

Everyone should be a vegan cyclist.

nthclare

Yep let's put a ban on freedom.

Build cities like the ones in 2000AD mega cities everywhere.

We can all sit together and get along, get the country people out of their​rural setting s...
Let the animals roam freely.

For Forks Sake

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Let's ban everything!

ban Bans

BoneIdol

lalababa wrote: »

Not a bad idea to ban private single use cars. We would cope no problem, like when we used not have cars. But we are lazy fu*kers I'm afraid and the norm is the norm ,and the powers that be don't care 'coz we don't.

If you're involved in sport not having a car is not an option. Far from lazy.

wexie

BoneIdol wrote: »

If you're involved in sport not having a car is not an option. Far from lazy.

Or live outside the what....all of 4 or 5 cities that have public transport? And then piss poor public transport at that.

nthclare

Yep let's put a ban on freedom.

Build cities like the ones in 2000AD mega cities everywhere.

We can all sit together and get along, get the country people out of their​rural setting s...
Let the animals roam freely.
Let's stop everything. Let's stop going to the beaches,let's stop fishing, hillwalking, surfing, walking around headlands...

Ffs let's get public transport in order so we can all sit in busses for hour's, waiting around for transport... collect your ticket at the machine.

Tough **** if it's raining, tough **** if you arrive at the beach on July the 17th at 11am and have to wait until 1:00 am to get home. Because it's public transport...

Let the wealthy people have car's because they're to be looked up to.

This has to be the most bonkers thread on board's.
Actually I'm bonkers enough, this is really brining the bonkers out of me.

Timetable no 647

Burren Perfumery. Leaves Ennis 10:00 Am
Arrival @ 11:00 am
Departure on the hour every hour...

The Liscannor Rock Shop

Leaves Ennis 10:30 am
Arrival 11:30 AM

Departure on the hour every hour

Burren Smoke House

Departure 12:00
Arrival 12:55

Departs on the hour every hour

And so £4(%in on...

Common sense please.....

Capt'n Midnight

wexie wrote: »

No, moronic and unworkable idea.

Can't read the article (loads and then blanks the screen) but I'd love to see the numbers on that (not enough really to disable my ad blocker).

NASA link https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20100218a/

demanufactured

lalababa wrote: »

Not a bad idea to ban private single use cars. We would cope no problem, like when we used not have cars. But we are lazy fu*kers I'm afraid and the norm is the norm ,and the powers that be don't care 'coz we don't.

I'll keep my big dirty diesel thanks.

demanufactured

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Let's ban everything!

Your banned.

Becks610

Yes we should. I live in Dublin so public transport all the way! If we banned cars everywhere maybe public transport could improve.

Noveight

Terrible idea. Good to see it rightly lambasted here.

StupidLikeAFox

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

"A NASA study declared that automobiles were officially the largest net contributor of climate change pollution in the world."

For example, the area of Little Island on the east side of Cork City has 87% of people travel by car each day into the area. That is going beyond the unthinkable when it comes to trying to tackle climate change.

We rely on our agricultural industry far more in Ireland than other countries, so that is a much more difficult issue to tackle.
But weening ourselves off our massive over reliance on the automobile should be top of the agenda if we genuinely care about the environment.

Finally someone has the balls to call out Little Island for the massive damage they are doing to our environment

wexie

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

NASA link https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20100218a/

Interesting article, especially the bit talking about the cooling effect of aerosols.

SEPT 23 1989

Why not

The joy of motoring is long dead

nthclare

Becks610 wrote: »

Yes we should. I live in Dublin so public transport all the way! If we banned cars everywhere maybe public transport could improve.

Exactly, huge migration to Dublin....

Are you serious, I mean are you living on the same planet as the rest of us.

What's there to do and see in Dublin for us folk into rural Life, bushcraft, surfing, adventure......the list goes on...

You're post doesn't make sense to me, sorry but More than likely you mean well...but...

s7ryf3925pivug

Develop car-free zones. Have very regular shuttle buses to car parks located around the edge of where they are to expand to. Might have logistical benefit. However people are generally pretty dependent on cars in Ireland outside of certain areas with semi-ok public transport.

Grayson

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I think the future is car sharing, current useage where cars spend on average 90% plus of their time sitting idle is unsustainable.

Especially once they become self driving.

Hercule Poirot

Not only is the public transport system utter cack but it's stupidly expensive - a day return for two adults from Ballina to Sligo cost me €54 on bus eireann the other day - so now I'm even more determined to start driving

demanufactured

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Finally someone has the balls to call out Little Island for the massive damage they are doing to our environment

Is that you Peter Casey?

Capt'n Midnight

wexie wrote: »

Interesting article, especially the bit talking about the cooling effect of aerosols.

“Give me a half tanker of iron, and I will give you an ice age.”
- John Martin

AllForIt

Last Saturday night I witnessed a guy in the center of town about 10:30pm do a handbrake turn on a roundabout. In a way it was quite impressive he stayed on the road at all times and didn't veer into the centre of the roundabout. Or kill anyone. It has occurred to me of late that in this smallish town a lot of people do a lot of aimless driving. I put that down to not having much to do which I think is a big problem is rural Ireland but at the same time I can't help but think there should be something in place to deter ppl from wasting petrol, putting ppl in danger, polluting the environment etc.

Temptamperu

meanwhile china pumps tonnes of carbon into the atmosphere every day.

endacl

My drive to work takes me 15 minutes, door to door. When I get to my convenient and free parking spot, I generally have at least two trips to the car to empty the boot of equipment. If I've to go by public transport it means two buses, spending at least 40 minutes on each, with up to another 40 minutes waiting between the two.

Give me one good reason not to drive my big comfy car with a stereo to play whatever dafuq I want at whatever volume suits me, a cup holder for my coffee, a guaranteed leather seat, climate control, and nobody bothering me, with the option to head off in any number of directions when the day is done? I don't care about sitting stuck in traffic (I rarely do. The hours work out nicely in that regard). I don't care about the cost of fuel and tax etc. I can afford it.

What's in public transport for me? I'm not even 'that guy'. If I don't have a load of gear to bring, I'll cycle. Nice spin. About 30 minutes each way.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Temptamperu wrote: »

meanwhile china pumps tonnes of carbon into the atmosphere every day.

Ireland is worse than China per capita.

Sam Quentin

The ozone layer!?
AHHH THE OLD OZONE LAYER fake news thing....

Pinch Flat

Under distances that can be walked or cycled, I’d say yes. We’ve become a lazy nation that uses the private car for ridiculously short journeys

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/more-than-half-of-travellers-use-cars-for-journeys-under-2km-1.2303451%3fmode=amp

corks finest

No,ban whomever suggested this ridiculous proposal

Pkiernan

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

"A NASA study declared that automobiles were officially the largest net contributor of climate change pollution in the world."

For example, the area of Little Island on the east side of Cork City has 87% of people travel by car each day into the area. That is going beyond the unthinkable when it comes to trying to tackle climate change.

We rely on our agricultural industry far more in Ireland than other countries, so that is a much more difficult issue to tackle.
But weening ourselves off our massive over reliance on the automobile should be top of the agenda if we genuinely care about the environment.

Google the CO2 emissions for idiotic posts first.

Temptamperu

Temptamperu wrote: »

meanwhile china pumps tonnes of carbon into the atmosphere every day.

"the average American is responsible for 19.8 tonnes per person, and the average Chinese citizen clocks in at 4.6 tonnes."

Wanderer78

Deleted User wrote:

"the average American is responsible for 19.8 tonnes per person, and the average Chinese citizen clocks in at 4.6 tonnes."

merica, fcuk yea!

The J Stands for Jay

Pretzill wrote: »

No but we could improve the national and rural public transport system. If I didnt have a private car I either wouldn't leave the house or would be travelling dangerous roads on foot or by bike.

I do think if I lived where the public transport system was good (coughs - Dublin) I certainly wouldn't use the car as much.

I there were no cars, the roads would be safe...

realitykeeper

I think there is a case for reorganizing our lives so that travel is not necessary. Government generally is of course incompetent at everything so the thing to do is to take non professionals out of the equation in planning matters. Planning should be exclusively in the hands of planners, while suggestions by interested parties could be made available to the planners before they begin their work, no pressure should be applied regarding the suggestions by interested parties, just a mandatory set of criteria from government as paymasters. For example: Minimize necessity for private cars.

Planning also should be co-ordinated and integrated from a national level to a local level by planners using a hierarchical structure. Politicians really should extricate themselves from the planning process itself (and everything else).

When they were planning the children`s hospital in Dublin, I remember a highly opinionated nurse spouting her views like a boiling kettle and foolish people were actually listening to her! Nurses are not planners and as I say non relevant professionals should have no hand, act, or part in the planning process apart from submitting a proposal in writing beforehand, which the planners could consider in a non binding way.

I think appeals should not be entertained in any way because appealers are not planners, and even if they are, they are probably just jealous they didn`t get the contract. Other appeallers are quite possibly just "appealing" in the hope they might get a payout.

dr.fuzzenstein

McGaggs wrote: »

I there were no cars, the roads would be safe...

It would be like the 1800's again. The very wealthy had horses and the rest walked.
A brisk 20 mile walk to work and back is very good for the health.
Bring back the 1800's, it's the wet dream of the Greens.

Wanderer78

realitykeeper wrote: »

I think there is a case for reorganizing our lives so that travel is not necessary. Government generally is of course incompetent at everything so the thing to do is to take non professionals out of the equation in planning matters. Planning should be exclusively in the hands of planners, while suggestions by interested parties could be made available to the planners before they begin their work, no pressure should be applied regarding the suggestions by interested parties, just a mandatory set of criteria from government as paymasters. For example: Minimize necessity for private cars.

Planning also should be co-ordinated and integrated from a national level to a local level by planners using a hierarchical structure. Politicians really should extricate themselves from the planning process itself (and everything else).

When they were planning the children`s hospital in Dublin, I remember a highly opinionated nurse spouting her views like a boiling kettle and foolish people were actually listening to her! Nurses are not planners and as I say non relevant professionals should have no hand, act, or part in the planning process apart from submitting a proposal in writing beforehand, which the planners could consider in a non binding way.

I think appeals should not be entertained in any way because appealers are not planners, and even if they are, they are probably just jealous they didn`t get the contract. Other appeallers are quite possibly just "appealing" in the hope they might get a payout.

so what part should regulatory democracy play in your utopia?

LeinsterDub

Pretzill wrote: »

No but we could improve the national and rural public transport system. If I didnt have a private car I either wouldn't leave the house or would be travelling dangerous roads on foot or by bike.

I do think if I lived where the public transport system was good (coughs - Dublin) I certainly wouldn't use the car as much.

The roads would be far less dangerous if cars were banned

antodeco

Dublin's public transport is fantastic if you compare it to other Irish towns and cities. However, when in Dublin you realise how awful it is. Few examples:

35 minutes door to door from my house to my job, driving. 150 minutes using public transport.

10 minutes on the school run, driving. 75 minutes on public transport. Not because of traffic, but because you need to wait for about 4 buses until one has room

10 minutes to go to the local Aldi by car (and can buy more!). Walking only as no public transport option available. This would mean about 15 trips to do a weekly shop (plus Aldi don't deliver).

The Bishop Basher

realitykeeper wrote: »

When they were planning the children`s hospital in Dublin, I remember a highly opinionated nurse spouting her views like a boiling kettle and foolish people were actually listening to her!

Short of guaranteeing the bond holders, that hospital will turn out to be the most expensive mistake we’ve ever made as a nation.

We’re going to have the most expensive children’s hospital in the world and not a single extra bed or car parking space. Meanwhile our kids will still travel to other countries to get the care they actually need.

This is why we’ll never get rid of our reliance on the car.

That and the fact that we pay through the nose for the joy of having a car so why would anyone suffer the frustrations and costs of our crap public transport system when we can be warm and cosy and most importantly in our own space as we travel about.