Feed Bin/Silo

kk.man

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

Cavanjack

kk.man wrote: »

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

Have a v mac here. Can't fault it. They have a good name round here and they are sound to deal with. One pipe to blow the meal up the other is an exhaust for when You are filling. You'll do well to get a good second hand one on dd for 1000 and it might need work. They are the only job. Probably get a 6 tonne new for 2500. I'd recommend one sheeted to the floor with a door.

kk.man

Cavanjack wrote: »

kk.man wrote: »

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

Have a v mac here. Can't fault it. They have a good name round here and they are sound to deal with. One pipe to blow the meal up the other is an exhaust for when You are filling. You'll do well to get a good second hand one on dd for 1000 and it might need work. They are the only job. Probably get a 6 tonne new for 2500. I'd recommend one sheeted to the floor with a door.

Why the sheeted to the floor one?

Cavanjack

kk.man wrote: »

Why the sheeted to the floor one?

Very handy to stay in out of the rain if filling bags. You can fill bags and pile up for a few days if You wish. If you are using a barrow and it's not empty you can leave it in out of the reach of crows.

adne

Cavanjack wrote: »

Very handy to stay in out of the rain if filling bags. You can fill bags and pile up for a few days if You wish. If you are using a barrow and it's not empty you can leave it in out of the reach of crows.

Are silos covered under tams 2

Cavanjack

adne wrote: »

Are silos covered under tams 2

Only if You are milking I'm afraid

Robson99

kk.man wrote: »

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

Box off a corner of a shed € 300.

visatorro

If your feeding meal, bin is only job. 5tonne bin is around the 2k. Only thing is you've to pour concrete base aswell if you don't have some already. You can claim vat back. Put in chute long enough to fill bucket on loader and take an odd load out of the bottom just to keep it all moving.

hopeso

Don’t forget you’ll need decent access for the dilevery truck.... They’ll soon find any weak spots on farm roads and yards......

K.G.

past couple of years i moved to bins from having it in a house and massive difference in food hygene.with the best will in the world the rats will alwsys get at the ration and i had a lepto outbreak couple of years ago that i put down to rat droppings in the ration.

Bass Reeves

Bin is the only way to go if feeding any amount of ration/nuts. Hard to get a second hand one and by the time you have it bought and set up there may be only a few hundred between that and a new one. A four ton ration bin will hold nearly five ton of nuts. Handy to get a load of nuts ever now and again it gives the bin a good clean inside. Tapping it with a rubber mallet helps clean it down a bit as well after ration.

Would not worry about sheeting it down to bottom if budget is tight, this will cost a few hundred extra. A few wheelie bin are handy in case you want to store some if too much on lorry or if there was more left in bin than you taught. You can reclaim the vat on a new bin it is 238 euro on a 2k bin. Some lads get hung up on makes etc. I have one that was bought from a lad that makes them in Mallow, Spirofeed is the company name heard stories but I have no complaints. A good bin will last 40 years IMO so 1740 spread over 40 after tax at high rate is about 25 euro/year

Timmaay

kk.man wrote: »

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

How much meal do you use in a week? Another option is get ton bags of meal delivered to you, what I usually do here, this summer I've been getting 2ton blown into the corner of a shed while having to feed heifers more in the drought.

adne

Cavanjack wrote: »

Only if You are milking I'm afraid

Sums up the department's support of dairy over beef

Timmaay

adne wrote: »

Sums up the department's support of dairy over beef

Only if your buying a full meal feeding system, including parlour feeders like. I got a new meal bin here last month and couldn't claim a grant for it. In some cases the dept favours dairying I'll agree, but in this scenario I think it was simply a case that they didn't separate the meal bin from the full feeding system for some reason.

kk.man

I could buy a tton of meal a week and collect it in my round jfc bins. My plan is to keep jfc bins and fill it under the new meal bin. It's very handy for fields etc.

mayota

How heavy is a cubic metre of nut/ration?

Who2

For the price difference I’d definitely go 6 ton new. Bulk delivery prices are being tightened constantly on haulers at most places it’s now 4 ton minimum delivery. Add in you may have a ton in the bottom of the bin when you order say running into Christmas and such and you’ll need every inch. Larry access is the major issue with most suppliers so just ensure you’ve plenty of room a lot are running 40 footers now instead of 8 wheelers.

tanko

mayota wrote: »

How heavy is a cubic metre of nut/ration?

Only guessing but id say a tonne of nuts and 800kgs of ration.

Bleating Lamb

Considering getting a meal bin here.,would be needed almost exclusively in Springtime of year to feed dry hoggetts a coarse ration and also in lamb ewe nuts....so would I need a single bin silo with two compartments in the one silo....( can you get one like that??)...... or do you need to buy two separate ones?

Would prob be feeding about 6/8 tonne of hoggetts coarse ration and 3/4 tonne of ewe nuts next Spring so not a huge operation but worthwhile getting a bin imo.This Spring I had to get the ration delivered in half tonne bags and stored in an open shed so had to keep rat poison down full time.
Thanks for any feedback on what type or size bin/s I need.

Mooooo

Crowleys make a decent bin, they can come in split form to hold two rations in the one bin but dunno in what size. Spirofeed are another one and there are a few up north as well. Best job would be ring around a few get quotes. Some will sheet around the legs as well down to the concrete which is tidy for keeping a few bags or buckets etc
Edit to the op, the difference in price between a 6 and 10 tonne bin is fairly neglible so I would get the bigger one. Went from having no bin and using sheds and corners 6/7 years ago to having 3 bins now.

Timmaay

tanko wrote: »

Only guessing but id say a tonne of nuts and 800kgs of ration.

600kg ration, 700 nuts

_Brian

mayota wrote: »

How heavy is a cubic metre of nut/ration?

We sometimes use an ibc and get it filled. 850kg would be tops of super beef nut.

Joe Daly

kk.man wrote: »

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

Don't buy a second hand one its like buying a hole in your head , there is a reason why people are selling them.

390kid

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Considering getting a meal bin here.,would be needed almost exclusively in Springtime of year to feed dry hoggetts a coarse ration and also in lamb ewe nuts....so would I need a single bin silo with two compartments in the one silo....( can you get one like that??)...... or do you need to buy two separate ones?

Would prob be feeding about 6/8 tonne of hoggetts coarse ration and 3/4 tonne of ewe nuts next Spring so not a huge operation but worthwhile getting a bin imo.This Spring I had to get the ration delivered in half tonne bags and stored in an open shed so had to keep rat poison down full time.
Thanks for any feedback on what type or size bin/s I need.

A 8 ton split bin with mcarees is 3950 + vat so that’s 4 ton each side if that’s any help to you

charolais0153

390kid wrote: »

A 8 ton split bin with mcarees is 3950 + vat so that’s 4 ton each side if that’s any help to you

A lad got 8 tonne split for 3300 p cooney i think
Another lad got two separate 6 tonnes for 3600

Bass Reeves

charolais0153 wrote: »

A lad got 8 tonne split for 3300 p cooney i think
Another lad got two separate 6 tonnes for 3600

I have a split bin and if I was doing it again I would put in two seperate bins if 300 was all the difference

Hard Knocks

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I have a split bin and if I was doing it again I would put in two seperate bins if 300 was all the difference

What issues are you having?

Bass Reeves

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What issues are you having?

It is one bin on top of another. Main issue is that the bin is very high if youneed to do anything with it. Two years ago during a mild winter ordered a ration and it heated in the upper bin and it got blocked> it was very high I had to get a hoist to access it to empty it and free it up

Hard Knocks

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It is one bin on top of another. Main issue is that the bin is very high if youneed to do anything with it. Two years ago during a mild winter ordered a ration and it heated in the upper bin and it got blocked> it was very high I had to get a hoist to access it to empty it and free it up

See your point, remember getting rods to break heated meal.
Had 2 bins & they took up allot of space.

charolais0153

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I have a split bin and if I was doing it again I would put in two seperate bins if 300 was all the difference

And there is 4 tonne extra. The lad that makes them said its a balls making the split ones and he prefers just making the single ones

MfMan

kk.man wrote: »

I am fed up of spending valuable time on Saturday mornings going to the mill to get feed. I've decided to buy a stationary meal bin holding 4 or 5 ton max. I know little about them.
Does anyone have experience of these?
What ones works best for course ration?
What makes or brands have ye got?
How does the lorry blow the meal in?
How come some bins have two down pipes?
How much would I expect to spend on a good second hand one?

What do I avoid in buying one?

I have a VMac one, 7 ton, very handy. Saves meal being spoiled by vermin. (Mind you, I have it well sealed but a couple of small mice still manage to get in occasionally somewhere. :eek: ) Always nuts I put into it, lorry has no problem blowing in the feed through the intake pipe. The other downpipe is to let air out when blowing in stuff, or else the bin would explode from internal pressure. Also to allow air back in when the meal is being emptied, or it would implode due to the vacuum created. As others have said, you need a good fairly thick concrete base to mount the bin onto, which the manufacturer did when delivering. Most millers deliver 4 tons minimum now anyway, I think it's the way the compartments are divided up on the lorries.

DJ98

What price are the jfc half tonne and tonne meal bins does anybody know?

tanko

DJ98 wrote: »

What price are the jfc half tonne and tonne meal bins does anybody know?

I think the tonne bins were €280 a few years ago, not sure if that has changed.

grange mac

Cavanjack wrote: »

Only if You are milking I'm afraid

What a joke!! Typical.

49801

Personally like the idea of mobile feed bin in that you can park it near where your feeding.

https://www.hartnett-products.ie/collections/livestock-trailers/products/mobile-meal-bin-trailer

Downside is you still have to collect from mill or fill from your own silo/store

Bass Reeves

49801 wrote: »

Personally like the idea of mobile feed bin in that you can park it near where your feeding.

https://www.hartnett-products.ie/collections/livestock-trailers/products/mobile-meal-bin-trailer

Downside is you still have to collect from mill or fill from your own silo/store

They are similar to snackers that they use to feed sheep with. TBH they look over priced and would struggle to hold a half ton. 2580 including vat.

older by the day

Robson99 wrote: »

Box off a corner of a shed € 300.

Wrong advice, I've built slanted houses and a new milking parlour in the past 20 years. But the best money ever spent in this farm was a ration bin. Clean, Vernon proof and no bending to fill ration.

Robson99

older by the day wrote: »

Wrong advice, I've built slanted houses and a new milking parlour in the past 20 years. But the best money ever spent in this farm was a ration bin. Clean, Vernon proof and no bending to fill ration.

Wrong advice IN YOUR OPINION

mayota

DJ98 wrote: »

What price are the jfc half tonne and tonne meal bins does anybody know?

€300 half ton and €270 ton bin (yellow lid), Aurivo.

Bass Reeves

mayota wrote: »

€300 half ton and €270 ton bin (yellow lid), Aurivo.

Surely the other way around

mayota

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Surely the other way around

No.

charolais0153

I dont know why they are called half ton bins, they can fit 860kg nuts. The yellow top bins hold about 30 kg less nuts but are easuer to take nuts out of

Thekeencyclist

Anyone any experience with these 1tonne silos??
https://m.facebook.com/leamagri1/photos/a.1456786507976175/1934870253501129/?type=3&source=57&refid=52&__tn__=EH-R

croot

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Surely the other way around

Aurivo call them tonne bins but they aren't. 700kg of ration or a bit over 800 kgs in nuts is all you'll fit. They are low so you can reach to the bottom.

The other round ones are more difficult to reach the bottom.

older by the day

Robson99 wrote: »

Wrong advice IN YOUR OPINION

No it was just wrong advice.

charolais0153

I see in the ifj that you can get tams on a meal bin.

Never wrestle with pigs

charolais0153 wrote: »

I dont know why they are called half ton bins, they can fit 860kg nuts. The yellow top bins hold about 30 kg less nuts but are easuer to take nuts out of

I have them too. Great job. I leave them beside the creep feeders so it's easy to top them up when herding.

simx

charolais0153 wrote: »

I see in the ifj that you can get tams on a meal bin.

Yeah if bought with a parlour feeding system

charolais0153

simx wrote: »

Yeah if bought with a parlour feeding system

It was said with regard to small investments a beef farmer could make?

simx

charolais0153 wrote: »

It was said with regard to small investments a beef farmer could make?

Oh sorry may be mistaken so

kk.man

Just looking at my options here.
Did any of ye here of pe services(meal bins) ?...Or have used their products.
Feedback appreciated. Pm me if required.