Sign for commercial development

PMBC

Query in short is does a sign at side of the road not attached to a building require a Commencement Notice? The sign has planning permission granted and is in connection with the main development, which is commercial and which has both planning and commencement?
Thanks

Gumbo

PMBC wrote: »

Query in short is does a sign at side of the road not attached to a building require a Commencement Notice? The sign has planning permission granted and is in connection with the main development, which is commercial and which has both planning and commencement?
Thanks

Is it a building?
Material Alteration?
Sub-Division?
Extension?

But, it is a form of Structure or very loosely related, so I would lodge a short form of CN without Documentation to cover my back side.

Gileadi

I wouldn’t consider a CN appropriate for the sign alone, the building control regulations only apply where building regulations apply. And a sign could not be considered to be a building.

If the sign is being installed at the same time as the other works a CN would be appropriate

Gumbo

Gileadi wrote: »

I wouldn’t consider a CN appropriate for the sign alone, the building control regulations only apply where building regulations apply. And a sign could not be considered to be a building.

If the sign is being installed at the same time as the other works a CN would be appropriate

Point could be argued that the erection of the steel column and it’s foundations are related to Part A.

It also depends if there’s a CN for the main works, as if there is, then a separate CN wouldn’t be required. I’ve had both occasions in front of me recently.

Gileadi

kceire wrote: »

Point could be argued that the erection of the steel column and it’s foundations are related to Part A.

It also depends if there’s a CN for the main works, as if there is, then a separate CN wouldn’t be required. I’ve had both occasions in front of me recently.

I wouldn’t consider it falls under any of the following definitions from relevant legislation

Building Control Act 1990, Section 1(1)

“works” includes any act or operation in connection with the construction, extension, alteration, repair or renewal of a building.


Building Regulations 1997 – 2017, Article 5(4)

“works” includes any act or operation in connection with the construction, extension, alteration, repair or renewal of a building.


Building Control Regulations 1997 – 2015, Article 5(4)

“works” includes any act or operation in connection with the construction, extension, alteration, repair or renewal of a building;

Gumbo

Gileadi wrote: »

I wouldn’t consider it falls under any of the following definitions from relevant legislation

Building Control Act 1990, Section 1(1)

“works” includes any act or operation in connection with the construction, extension, alteration, repair or renewal of a building.


Building Regulations 1997 – 2017, Article 5(4)

“works” includes any act or operation in connection with the construction, extension, alteration, repair or renewal of a building.


Building Control Regulations 1997 – 2015, Article 5(4)

“works” includes any act or operation in connection with the construction, extension, alteration, repair or renewal of a building;

Yep, all perfectly good interpretations of the regulations.
I’ve seen people lodge CN’s for these works and I’ve seen people not lodge them.

Onus is on the building owner and how their professional agent interprets the regs.

PMBC

very interesting and thanks gentlemen - at least I think they are both men. There is a CN for the main nearby project. Might tRy the short form, so.
Again thanks
PM