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Where can I report companies not applying the sugar tax. Mod Warning Pst 27

  • 17-10-2018 6:39pm
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    Site Banned Posts: 14


    Hi everyone.
    I sent my 8 year old son to a birthday party at a fun-centre (bouncy castle, obstacles, trampolines, crash mats etc).

    I wasn't there with him, the mother kindly arranged a minibus to pick up all the kids from her own house and bring them to the centre and dropped them all back at their own houses after the party.

    When my child got home he was hyper. It turns out that the kids were all given bags of sweets and cake as you do at a party. But the kids were also given cans of full fat cola.

    Giving a child cans of full fat Cola is a stupid thing to do. He was hyper for the day. I rang the fun centre and demanded to know why they didn't give them diet cola instead but I was given a frosty reception.

    Since the sugar tax came in, you shouldn't be giving sugary drinks for free and you can only give diet drinks. It's a disgrace that the kids were given full sugar / fat cola. He was hyper for the evening when he came back home.

    Can I report the fun centre giving children full cola for irresponsibility towards children?

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  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    What does everyone else think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    OUTRAAAAAAGE !!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭redlead


    There is no fat in cola.

    That aside, I presume you are taking the mick; I certainly hope so anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    *followsthread :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    What does everyone else think?

    I think I'm glad we're just past this point in our lives and managed to avoid having to deal with this problem.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    redlead wrote: »
    There is no fat in cola.

    That aside, I presume you are taking the mick; I certainly hope so anyway.

    Full fat / full sugar sorry. I mean non-diet. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Have you ever heard of Aspartame? I think you need to educate yourself on the ingredients of diet drinks, and stop worrying about one can of 'full fat' cola at a kids party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    He went to a birthday party.


    He's 5.

    Of course he had sugar.

    In future if you don't want him to have sugar dont let him go to party's where you don't control the drinks.

    Or put strict rules in place before he goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    Sugar doe snot make kids hyper (link). However, if your child was on a restricted diet for whatever reason, the parent in charge should have been aware of it and protected your child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    For a troll, this is such a poor attempt. 2/10.

    Try harder next time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Sounds to me like your kid is a sugar tax evader. I'll be reporting him to revenue.
    Hope he kept receipts for all his crayons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Pa8301


    The horror. The horror.


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    mrsoundie wrote: »
    Sugar doe snot make kids hyper (). However, if your child was on a restricted diet for whatever reason, the parent in charge should have been aware of it and protected your child.

    He's not on a protected diet, he's just hyper from sugar. I thought it was common sense not to give a child cola.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I would give you a frosty reception too if you demanded I do something . And of course the drinks weren't free they were paid for in the birthday package


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Huntline


    Ive been informed previously by a close friend who works in customs that they are actually dealing with these sort of breaches of legislation. I think if you go onto the revenue website you will be able to find your nearest customs base and can then formally make a complaint to them who will then investigate it, whether it be some form of covert work or that of a search warrant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭wally1990


    Maybe I'm open to correction but since when can they only give out diet drinks to children ?

    My understanding was a tax was brought in on the sugar content of beverages so maybe in this situation the supplier bought the drinks thus paying the net amount plus vat and sugar tax

    They decided to give out the drinks for free but the tax is paid by the supplier to the Revenue and not resold to a consumer

    Never heard of a law that children aren't allowed to be given drinks containing sugar since a tax was brought in?

    Am I wrong


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    How do you know the drinks were free? Surely they were paid for by the parents?


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I would give you a frosty reception too if you demanded I do something . And of course the drinks weren't free they were paid for in the birthday package

    But there was no limit so the drinks technically weren't really paid for. My child had 2 cans, other kids and 3 or four. They were small cans from a multipack. 200 ml or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    RossieMan wrote: »
    For a troll, this is such a poor attempt. 2/10.

    Try harder next time.

    Diet troll

    Fk me if this is the depressing state of affairs that happens with stupid laws.... I give up

    If kids aren't meant to have sugar then the kids shouldn't go to the party, honestly what did you expect?

    I have 2 kids myself and if I let them go to a party, I'm not naive so, I know whats going to happen. It's a treat for them and I deal with it

    I honestly don't know what you expect but your bar is set way too high if your actually seriously complaining about sugar at a kids party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Sugar does not make kids hyper. Period.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    wally1990 wrote: »
    Maybe I'm open to correction but since when can they only give out diet drinks to children ?

    My understanding was a tax was brought in on the sugar content of beverages so maybe in this situation the supplier bought the drinks thus paying the net amount plus vat and sugar tax

    They decided to give out the drinks for free but the tax is paid by the supplier to the Revenue and not resold to a consumer

    Never heard of a law that children aren't allowed to be given drinks containing sugar since a tax was brought in?

    Am I wrong

    In my opinion it's just irresponsible though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    In my opinion it's just irresponsible though.

    So you drop your kid off at a party and expect other people to be responsible for it?
    If your so precious maybe use some parental responsibility the next time and stay with your kid to see it doesn't drink cola.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    But there was no limit so the drinks technically weren't really paid for. My child had 2 cans, other kids and 3 or four. They were small cans from a multipack. 200 ml or so.

    Of course they weren't free for heavens sake . And if you are that fussed over what your child has then either give him water or stand over him or keep him home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    He's not on a protected diet, he's just hyper from sugar. I thought it was common sense not to give a child cola.

    Caffeine may be your problem instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    Hi everyone.
    I sent my 8 year old son to a birthday party at a fun-centre (bouncy castle, obstacles, trampolines, crash mats etc).

    I wasn't there with him, the mother kindly arranged a minibus to pick up all the kids from her own house and bring them to the centre and dropped them all back at their own houses after the party.

    When my child got home he was hyper. It turns out that the kids were all given bags of sweets and cake as you do at a party. But the kids were also given cans of full fat cola.

    Giving a child cans of full fat Cola is a stupid thing to do. He was hyper for the day. I rang the fun centre and demanded to know why they didn't give them diet cola instead but I was given a frosty reception.

    Since the sugar tax came in, you shouldn't be giving sugary drinks for free and you can only give diet drinks. It's a disgrace that the kids were given full sugar / fat cola. He was hyper for the evening when he came back home.

    Can I report the fun centre giving children full cola for irresponsibility towards children?

    I think you should be reported to Tusla. What responsible parent would let their kid to party where sugar is served.

    Just in case you are actually serious, I would suspect your child was much more likely hyper from the excitement.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    MOD

    Easy on the troll calls folks, any concerns please report posts.

    This forum generally isn't a joking forum, so please ease up on the tone in response.

    If this goes further down, I'm just going to close it out.

    For those of you who've come from the front page, please enjoy your visit!


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    So you drop your kid off at a party and expect other people to be responsible for it?
    If your so precious maybe use some parental responsibility the next time and stay with your kid to see it doesn't drink cola.

    But it's common sense not to give 8 year old kinds cola. It's not asking much. We only have diet drinks in the fridge at home. How is it my responsibility not to give kids fattening sugar and sugar that will make them hyper for their parents at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think you should be reported to Tusla. What responsible parent would let their kid to party where sugar is served.

    Just in case you are actually serious, I would suspect your child was much more likely hyper from the excitement.

    And from the freedom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Emma K09 wrote:
    When my child got home he was hyper. It turns out that the kids were all given bags of sweets and cake as you do at a party. But the kids were also given cans of full fat cola.

    Sugar coke is better for the kids than diet coke. Neither one is good for you. The sweeteners used in diet cola are actually laxative. Not in high enough dose to run through the kids but long term use can be dangerous

    You are better off not giving kids any fizzy drinks at all
    Emma K09 wrote:
    Since the sugar tax came in, you shouldn't be giving sugary drinks for free and you can only give diet drinks. It's a disgrace that the kids were given full sugar / fat cola. He was hyper for the evening when he came back home.

    Retail outlets don't have to charge the sugar tax. So long as revenue gets paid it makes no difference if its paid by the customer or paid by the retailer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭keithdub


    I'm guessing the birthday child's parents paid for the sweets and drinks. I can't see how you could report them unless it's bootleg cola the play Center is dealing in. If I were you I would chalk it up to experience and give the parents at the next party a heads up of what your child can have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    But it's common sense not to give 8 year old kinds cola. It's not asking much. We only have diet drinks in the fridge at home. How is it my responsibility not to give kids fattening sugar and sugar that will make them hyper for their parents at home.

    Actually as a responsible parent you shouldn't be giving children chemical sweetners anyway . It is bad for the gut bacteria


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    But it's common sense not to give 8 year old kinds cola. It's not asking much. We only have diet drinks in the fridge at home. How is it my responsibility not to give kids fattening sugar and sugar that will make them hyper for their parents at home.

    If you have dietary requirements for your children, you tell the parents throwing the party so they can accommodate your child. Or give them a drink to bring next time?

    Tbh..I wouldn't be having a supply of diet drinks in the fridge for my kids though?


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    If you have dietary requirements for your children, you tell them to the parents throwing the party so they can accommodate your child. Or give them a drink to bring next time?

    It's not a dietary requirement though, it's common sense in my opinion not to give kids full cola. It's full of toxins imo.
    Tbh..I wouldn't be having a supply of diet drinks in the fridge for my kids though?

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    Your child was at a party
    parties are sugar filled treats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    It's not a dietary requirement though, it's common sense in my opinion not to give kids full cola. It's full of toxins imo.



    Why?

    Have you not read the previous posts ? Artificial chemical sweetners are harmful for gut bacteria . Give them water or fruit juices with no additives


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Why report the company, they purchased the coke so they have all ready paid the sugar tax, doesn't matter if they give it away.
    8 year old at a kids party playing on bouncing castles ect with the other kids of course there going to be full of beans there kids.

    Plus an excited child after a party that's not hyperactive..
    There is a real medical condition of hyperactivety but thats in relation to a child been diagnosed with hyperactive Sense's to sencery stimulation.

    Sugar does not cause this.
    So if you're child does not have a medical diagnosis.
    For the love of God stop saying you child was hyperactive,
    They were just been a happy excited child who had great fun at a birthday party.
    It normal.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    It's not a dietary requirement though, it's common sense in my opinion not to give kids full cola. It's full of toxins imo.



    Why?

    MOD

    OP,

    The ingredients aren't based on opinion, they are on the side of the can/bottle.

    Discuss what you want about how you don't want your kid to have sugar drinks. But this isn't really the place to argue the content of the drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭DublinHun72


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    It's not a dietary requirement though, it's common sense in my opinion not to give kids full cola. It's full of toxins imo.



    Why?

    A quick google search can answer that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Nutser


    Hoboo wrote:
    Have you ever heard of Aspartame? I think you need to educate yourself on the ingredients of diet drinks, and stop worrying about one can of 'full fat' cola at a kids party.


    This. I would much rather my child had an occasional full sugar fizzy drink than anything with those artificial sweeteners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    How do you know they're not applying the sugar tax and if they're not kindly tell us where it is so I can gorge on Classic Coke.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    MOD

    OP,

    The ingredients aren't based on opinion, they are on the side of the can/bottle.

    Discuss what you want about how you don't want your kid to have sugar drinks. But this isn't really the place to argue the content of the drink.

    Caffeine, sugars etc ARE toxins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    Caffeine, sugars etc ARE toxins.

    Are they really? Have you links for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    Caffeine, sugars etc ARE toxins.

    Actually the artificial sweeteners far worse for a childs developing bowel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    The kid was probably hyper at being let out of prison for a few hours.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    It's not a dietary requirement though, it's common sense in my opinion not to give kids full cola. It's full of toxins imo

    The bit in bold is the important bit. In your opinion. When your kid goes to a party you are playing by someone else's rules. If you want your rules adhered to, you tell the parents throwing the party, or give your child a drink yourself.

    What about the food your child got? I can't imagine it was steamed broccoli and boiled rice? Why don't you have an issue with the (most likely) unhealthy food they had?
    Why?

    Carbonated drinks can be really bad for you, depending on what it is. Diet coke is supposed to be bad for your kidneys. Also we were always told in school that drinking carbonated drinks while eating is really bad for your teeth as it scrapes the enamel away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    probably because the sweeteners are much more dangerous than the sugar itself. ;)
    Why would you want to cause a business trouble because you didn't tell the responsible adult not to give your child cola? It is not their fault.
    I have never been to a party where children weren't given fizzy drinks. I have been to parties though where parents took responsibility for their own children and either went themselves to prevent the child from drinking and eating sugar or they told the adult responsible for the children not to give it to them.
    Use it as a learning experience and dont try and destroy someone's livelihood because you didnt do something you should have.

    Summary: Artificial sweeteners may be associated with long-term weight gain and increased risk of obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure and heart disease, according to a new study. ... Consumption of artificial sweeteners, such as aspartame and sucralose, is widespread and increasing.Jul 17, 2017


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    Caffeine, sugars etc ARE toxins.

    MOD

    I'm giving you an opportunity to speak your piece.

    By doing so, I'm directing you on the discussion that is suitable to this forum, from the perspective that it's to offer parenting advice. We won't be engaging in chemical warfare over the classification of any items that may be within the drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    If you didn’t want your child to have certain things you should have told the parents throwing the party or better either supervised your own child there. I’d have been a lot more upset if my child was given a diet drink fir the reasons already given by other posters.


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 Emma K09


    bee06 wrote: »
    If you didn’t want your child to have certain things you should have told the parents throwing the party or better either supervised your own child there. I’d have been a lot more upset if my child was given a diet drink fir the reasons already given by other posters.

    But why should I have to prewarn them. It's common sense not to give a can of cola riddle with sugar, caffeine and toxins to a child.

    Would you need to be told not to give a child red bull or beer?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Emma K09 wrote: »
    But why should I have to prewarn them.

    Because you're so irate that your kid was given something you want report them for tax evasion.


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