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Discussion on Candle light Vigils

  • 12-10-2018 6:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭


    I asked my local garda station could I do something like a candle light vigil outside a house where an elderly person is being threatened by a daughter.
    I also consulted with a solicitor who specialises in elder safeguarding the the same question.
    I preferred the garda advice but really I would be grateful for a discussion on how I can avoid being arrested if I hold such a vigil?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Arrested for what, exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Red Hare wrote: »
    I asked my local garda station could I do something like a candle light vigil outside a house where an elderly person is being threatened by a daughter.
    I also consulted with a solicitor who specialises in elder safeguarding the the same question.
    I preferred the garda advice but really I would be grateful for a discussion on how I can avoid being arrested if I hold such a vigil?

    If there is " a case " you could achieve the exact opposite of whatever you are trying to do

    You are going to do exactly what this imaginary daughter is hoping you will do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,788 ✭✭✭brian_t


    Why aren't the Gardai talking to the daughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Red Hare


    Arrested for what, exactly?

    On Friday a solicitor told me that I would be arrested if I held a vigil but she wouldn't tell me why? - (:rolleyes:I paid her 185 euro for a consultation )So I would be grateful for tips on how hold a vigil or something like that without getting arrested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭aluminium


    Red Hare wrote: »
    On Friday a solicitor told me that I would be arrested if I held a vigil but she wouldn't tell me why? - (:rolleyes:I paid her 185 euro for a consultation )So I would be grateful for tips on how hold a vigil or something like that without getting arrested.

    Oh for Gods sake. whos going to arrest someone for holding a candle outside a house?
    If its a breach of the peace you got a problem, if its harassment (non fatal offences against the person etc), you got a problem.

    But really if you know of an elderly person that is being abused, you have a moral duty to report it.

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/4/olderpeople/carersrelatives/protecting-older-people-from-abuse.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Red Hare


    I have reported it. However this just meant that the daughter had me issued with a solicitors letter threatening legal action against me for defamation. I am wondering if I keep walking as if on a picket that I cant be arrested. Is a candle vigil considered harassment or breach of the peace? The solicitor I went to advised me that I would have a judgement against my house if I did a vigil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭aluminium


    If your going to do anything like that you have to remain anonymous. You leave yourself wide open to be a victim.
    The guards will be called and at the very least you will be given a caution.

    Call AWARE and express your concerns. Then walk away. Its none of your business, if the professionals wont get involved neither should you. Your not Mother Theresa.

    Incidentally how did the daughter find out you made a report?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Red Hare wrote: »
    I asked my local garda station could I do something like a candle light vigil outside a house where an elderly person is being threatened by a daughter.
    Are you proposing to do this outside the house of the elderly person who is being threatened, or outside the house of the daughter who is making the threats? Or do they both live in the one house?

    And, either way, what do you hope to achieve by this?


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