Parking issue with a neighbour and looking for advice

thebadguy88

Hi All
I live in a small town in Cork County and I dont plan on mentioning where to keep anonymous.
I live in an old estate with ten houses on the street , at the start of the old estate the council put a kerb where I park my vehicle as well as another person on the estate.
Anyhow approx 15 years ago a council estate was built above the old estate and now parking has become an issue.
There is one family living in the council houses and they now have 4 vehicles , including two vans and two cars. He has two parking spaces outside his house and lives approx 150 yards from me.
Last week he parked one of the vans on my spot on the Kerb and I barely could get my car in after a long days working, it happened twice in the one week.
I was furious and I was going to go up to his house only for the fact it was after 11pm
He now is parking one of his camper vans at the corner of the turn off to the row of houses that i live in on and he never moves it
It is going to to cause an accident as it is very dangerous
The annoying thing is his parents live about another 100 yards below the estate I live in and next to them there are parking spaces for 5 vehicles which were created by the council , they are not used and I cant understand why he doesnt park the camper vans there.
I have talked to a few other residents and they are all furious with him and I can see trouble brewing if its not sorted swiftly.
I was told by a few sources to contact the council on his behaviour and that he doesnt have a leg to stand on with what he is at.
Im hoping for some solid advice
Cheers guys

Brian201888

So yourself and the other residents are all "furious" but has anyone actually popped down and asked him to move it?

amcalester

Is it actually your spot or are you just in the habit of parking there?

Fighting Tao

Unless it’s a private estate (managed by a management company) you can not own a parking space (public road). If he is parked legally there is nothing you can really do except highlight to the council that where he parks is dangerous and request them to check it out and they may put down double yellow lines. That world mean that you couldn’t park their either.

Markcheese

Definitely talk to the council...
If the vehicles aren't parked illegally, or blocking your driveway, there's not much can be done..
If it's blocking where you park on the side of the public road, could be tough luck...
In the meantime have a look at tax, insurance, and nct on any the vehicles on the road..

thebadguy88

I have parked there for over 10 years

thebadguy88

amcalester wrote: »

Is it actually your spot or are you just in the habit of parking there?

I have parked there for over ten years

thebadguy88

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Unless it’s a private estate (managed by a management company) you can not own a parking space (public road). If he is parked legally there is nothing you can really do except highlight to the council that where he parks is dangerous and request them to check it out and they may put down double yellow lines. That world mean that you couldn’t park their either.

Okay I find it weird how he can park in another estates spaces , so technically we could all park outside his house??I just think it is very rude out of him

thebadguy88

Markcheese wrote: »

Definitely talk to the council...
If the vehicles aren't parked illegally, or blocking your driveway, there's not much can be done..
If it's blocking where you park on the side of the public road, could be tough luck...
In the meantime have a look at tax, insurance, and nct on any the vehicles on the road..

Yes we are going to , it is not acceptable from him , parking in other estates spaces and very rude too.
There are council spaces as I said a small bit down the road which he could park the vehicles in

dulpit

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I have parked there for over 10 years

Doesn't matter - public roads are public.

thebadguy88

Brian201888 wrote: »

So yourself and the other residents are all "furious" but has anyone actually popped down and asked him to move it?

One person banged on his door last Friday night and made him move it , it was very close to turning physical , the person who banged on the door too is becoming a guard

El Tarangu

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I have parked there for over ten years

Everyone has the same entitlement to the public road as anyone else, whether it is outside your house, or not. The blocking of the driveway is a separate issue, but anyone is entitled to park on a public roadway (so long as parking is permitted there).

thebadguy88

dulpit wrote: »

Doesn't matter - public roads are public.

It was a council kerb thou so technically i guess no one should be parking on it by right????

thebadguy88

El Tarangu wrote: »

Everyone has the same entitlement to the public road as anyone else, whether it is outside your house, or not. The blocking of the driveway is a separate issue, but anyone is entitled to park on a public roadway (so long as parking is permitted there).

Okay i understand now , thanks for that.
What are the rules of one parking on a council kerb??

amcalester

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I have parked there for over ten years

Just because you have stored your property on the same piece of public land doesn't give you any more rights to it than anyone else.

thebadguy88

amcalester wrote: »

Just because you have stored your property on the same piece of public land doesn't give you any more rights to it than anyone else.

Okay i get you , its a mad one but I cant work out how a person with 4 vehicles can take peoples spaces 150 yards away
crazy lol

punisher5112

thebadguy88 wrote: »

One person banged on his door last Friday night and made him move it , it was very close to turning physical , the person who banged on the door too is becoming a guard

Well then he should know better.

If it's a public space, vehicles are all up to date on test, tax and insurance then he is doing nothing wrong.

There is no law against owning 1, 2 or 10 vehicles etc.

Just because you are parking there 10 years doesn't give you ownership unless it's on your deeds and it private property.

Unfortunately any road space outside any properties once not a clearway, double yellow etc can be used by anyone at any time.

thebadguy88

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well then he should know better.

If it's a public space, vehicles are all up to date on test, tax and insurance then he is doing nothing wrong.

There is no law against owning 1, 2 or 10 vehicles etc.

Just because you are parking there 10 years doesn't give you ownership unless it's on your deeds and it private property.

Unfortunately any road space outside any properties once not a clearway, double yellow etc can be used by anyone at any time.

I find it a crazy one that he a person can take up others spaces over 15o yards from where he lives so that means we could all park outside his house
I think in the end the smart choice will to get the council to not allow anyone park on the kerb

GreeBo

thebadguy88 wrote: »

Okay I find it weird how he can park in another estates spaces , so technically we could all park outside his house??I just think it is very rude out of him

They are not another estates spaces....they belong to nobody, hence they belong to everybody.

thebadguy88

GreeBo wrote: »

They are not another estates spaces....they belong to nobody, hence they belong to everybody.

I hear ya , technically no mans land
I must get onto council and sort it
Cheers

punisher5112

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I find it a crazy one that he a person can take up others spaces over 15o yards from where he lives so that means we could all park outside his house
I think in the end the smart choice will to get the council to not allow anyone park on the kerb

It's not crazy but be careful the road you go down as council may put in charge bays, yellow lines etc etc.

Nothing wrong at all parking outside his once it's a public road.

thebadguy88

punisher5112 wrote: »

It's not crazy but be careful the road you go down as council may put in charge bays, yellow lines etc etc.

Nothing wrong at all parking outside his once it's a public road.

If you drove by and saw the carry on you would think differently , trust me on that one
I think il need put in a parking space in garden across from my house and Il sort it with the council as an accident will happen

mordeith

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I find it a crazy one that he a person can take up others spaces

That's the thing. They aren't other people's spaces. I'd park in front of his house.

thebadguy88

mordeith wrote: »

That's the thing. They aren't other people's spaces. I'd park in front of his house.

Yes i think it will end up happening as people arent happy with him
Maybe the council would designate the kerb for spaces for people living in my estate instead of leaving it lawless??

BoneIdol

thebadguy88 wrote: »

Yes i think it will end up happening as people arent happy with him
Maybe the council would designate the kerb for spaces for people living in my estate instead of leaving it lawless??

They might. But you will be paying for them.

thebadguy88

BoneIdol wrote: »

They might. But you will be paying for them.

How would i be paying for them??

amcalester

thebadguy88 wrote: »

How would i be paying for them??

The council aren't just going to gift you a free parking space, and nor should they just because you don't want to walk 150 yards.

Gerry T

I live in Dublin, busy area but residential. Same thing more cars than spaces, I've had to park 300m away to find a spot. Doesn't upset me because you have zero entitlement to park outside your house unless you have one of those disabled spaces or a driveway. A couple of yrs ago neighbours requested disc parking, the council sent a form to each house to vote yes or no. The majority on the road voted yes so we now have disc parking, problem solved (most of the time). There's an annual fee, small I can't remember how much, But that fee is prob regional.
Could be worth considering as he'll need to pay for parking every time he's there, very expensive.
Failing that if he parks a car permanently in "your" spot, and it's taxed, insured ?, there's nothing you can do....because it's not your spot.

thebadguy88

amcalester wrote: »

The council aren't just going to gift you a free parking space, and nor should they just because you don't want to walk 150 yards.

Well i certainly wont be cutting the green areas there no more , i did for ten years and didnt get a penny to make the area look nice.
I wonder if i bill the council would they look after me???

thebadguy88

Gerry T wrote: »

I live in Dublin, busy area but residential. Same thing more cars than spaces, I've had to park 300m away to find a spot. Doesn't upset me because you have zero entitlement to park outside your house unless you have one of those disabled spaces or a driveway. A couple of yrs ago neighbours requested disc parking, the council sent a form to each house to vote yes or no. The majority on the road voted yes so we now have disc parking, problem solved (most of the time). There's an annual fee, small I can't remember how much, But that fee is prob regional.
Could be worth considering as he'll need to pay for parking every time he's there, very expensive.
Failing that if he parks a car permanently in "your" spot, and it's taxed, insured ?, there's nothing you can do....because it's not your spot.

I hear ya mate , its a mad situation , I think we will just need to have a chat with him and sort it out
Thanks for the advice , i appreciate it

dulpit

Gerry T wrote: »

I live in Dublin, busy area but residential. Same thing more cars than spaces, I've had to park 300m away to find a spot. Doesn't upset me because you have zero entitlement to park outside your house unless you have one of those disabled spaces or a driveway. A couple of yrs ago neighbours requested disc parking, the council sent a form to each house to vote yes or no. The majority on the road voted yes so we now have disc parking, problem solved (most of the time). There's an annual fee, small I can't remember how much, But that fee is prob regional.
Could be worth considering as he'll need to pay for parking every time he's there, very expensive.
Failing that if he parks a car permanently in "your" spot, and it's taxed, insured ?, there's nothing you can do....because it's not your spot.

I don't see how this will help? The parking permit areas are usually across an area, so if the houses are within 150 yards or so they'll likely be in same area, so they'll be entitled to the same permits.

BoneIdol

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I hear ya mate , its a mad situation , I think we will just need to have a chat with him and sort it out
Thanks for the advice , i appreciate it

He's doing nothing wrong so I'd be very careful about having too many chats.

Gerry T

dulpit wrote:

I don't see how this will help? The parking permit areas are usually across an area, so if the houses are within 150 yards or so they'll likely be in same area, so they'll be entitled to the same permits.

Where I live the parking disc is specific to a road (Harolds cross in dublin). So I can't park 30m from my house on a side road. The disc has the road name printed on it.
But there could be different schemes in different parts of the country.
Funny thing is, even with disc parking people tend to park in the same spot so the ownership thing is still there 😂

thebadguy88

BoneIdol wrote: »

He's doing nothing wrong so I'd be very careful about having too many chats.

Its a free country one can talk with who ever they want , thanks for the advice thou

thebadguy88

Gerry T wrote: »

Where I live the parking disc is specific to a road (Harolds cross in dublin). So I can't park 30m from my house on a side road. The disc has the road name printed on it.
But there could be different schemes in different parts of the country.
Funny thing is, even with disc parking people tend to park in the same spot so the ownership thing is still there ��

Its just messy all round so really!

thebadguy88

dulpit wrote: »

I don't see how this will help? The parking permit areas are usually across an area, so if the houses are within 150 yards or so they'll likely be in same area, so they'll be entitled to the same permits.

I think the council will need to do soemthing to the area as a whole as its is after getting very very bad

TheChizler

thebadguy88 wrote: »

Its a free country one can talk with who ever they want , thanks for the advice thou

And park in any public spot they want

thebadguy88

TheChizler wrote: »

And park in any public spot they want

Thats true too kid , i think il park outside his house:):)

BoneIdol

thebadguy88 wrote: »

Its a free country one can talk with who ever they want , thanks for the advice thou

You'll have the guards knocking on your door quicker than you think.

thebadguy88

BoneIdol wrote: »

You'll have the guards knocking on your door quicker than you think.

From having an adults conversation???

BoneIdol

thebadguy88 wrote: »

From having an adults conversation???

With all due respect you aren't coming across like that's what is going to happen. You have said one bully boy has almost come to blows with him. By all means have a conversation but he's in the right and if you persist in approaching him the Guards will warn you for harassment.

thebadguy88

BoneIdol wrote: »

With all due respect you aren't coming across like that's what is going to happen. You have said one bully boy has almost come to blows with him. By all means have a conversation but he's in the right and if you persist in approaching him the Guards will warn you for harassment.

A bully boy approached him??
The person who knocked on his door asked him why he had his two vehicles parked outside his house and had a further two outside his house
I guess its common courtesy and abit of respect
Maybe I have different morals and ideals, were all different
I have no intention of harrassing noone , im a successful business person and dont have the time or interest

BoneIdol

thebadguy88 wrote: »

A bully boy approached him??
The person who knocked on his door asked him why he had his two vehicles parked outside his house and had a further two outside his house
I guess its common courtesy and abit of respect
Maybe I have different morals and ideals, were all different
I have no intention of harrassing noone , im a successful business person and dont have the time or interest

It's nobody's business where he parks his vehicles on a public road.

thebadguy88

BoneIdol wrote: »

It's nobody's business where he parks his vehicles on a public road.

Im not too sure about that being honest , talking to few sources I beg to differ, considering he has 4 vehicles
Il let you know the outcome!

jimbev

Not sure on this one but weren't camper vans only allowed to park on public road for about 9 months if it was your own drive then all year

thebadguy88

jimbev wrote: »

Not sure on this one but weren't camper vans only allowed to park on public road for about 9 months if it was your own drive then all year

This crowd has two of them parked up , one barely ever moves!!!

jimbev

thebadguy88 wrote: »

This crowd has two of them parked up , one barely ever moves!!!

Look in to your local bye-laws it might be the case you can put forward

thebadguy88

jimbev wrote: »

Look in to your local bye-laws it might be the case you can put forward

Hey mate they have two of them , they are vans converted into campers like.
One of them never moves and all he ever does is switch there parking spaces

Markcheese

dulpit wrote: »

I don't see how this will help? The parking permit areas are usually across an area, so if the houses are within 150 yards or so they'll likely be in same area, so they'll be entitled to the same permits.

True but would they give one resident 4 permits?
And anyway it's a country town, so not likely to be disc parking...

.red.

thebadguy88 wrote: »

I have no intention of harrassing noone , im a successful business person and dont have the time or interest

If your a successful business person then you have a solicitor. Talk to him or her.
They will tell you exactly what you've been told here but you might actually believe them instead of getting snotty.
Just cos you don't agree with what a poster says, it doesn't mean their wrong!

questionmark?

thebadguy88 wrote: »

This crowd has two of them parked up , one barely ever moves!!!

Are they taxed? Is he parking in a public space and not breaking any law? What's the issue here.
Sounds like you need to understand that the roads do not belong to you. OP wheter you mean it or not there is a sense of entitlement off you.