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The Boys - Amazon Prime Original - (**Spoilers**) (No Comic Spoilers!)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    CastorTroy wrote: »

    I was reading somewhere that this is being review bombed on amazon's site by ones not happy that it wasn't all released at once.

    Dumbest reason to down score something ... because you can't watch/play it. It's been happening a lot with games on the likes of Metacritic too. If only there was some form of proof of purchase/download/view/play before you can rate. Was a time I'd trust user reviews over the critics. They're like polar opposites these days [the pro critics tend to over rate every other TV show, the likes of RT is proof of that]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    With this series it could easily be both.
    I know it's not but it wouldn't surprise me if they did it.

    I was reading somewhere that this is being review bombed on amazon's site by ones not happy that it wasn't all released at once.

    Not really sustainable for streaming services to drop whole seasons in one go unless you have multiple shows you can drop each month
    People just sign up for a month for their favourite show (usually free trial) then cancel
    Dunno why they don't restrict free trials to non new releases
    Personally prefer the binge watch compared to the networks stretching shows out usually with a long hiatus mid season


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    Finding the new episodes a bit meh. Loved the first series


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,116 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Thargor wrote: »
    Absolutely despise Hughie, he's just so dull. Almost as boring are Maeves scenes with her sister, what is the point in that?

    It's her ex, but even then it's becoming clear the reason Maeve can't be with her is because she's afraid of what Homelander might do due to his jealousy. So I think it's definitely leading to confrontation between Maeve and Homelander.

    Which I think is great because all Maeve did last season was stand around, so at least she has some sort of a story now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Dumbest reason to down score something ... because you can't watch/play it. It's been happening a lot with games on the likes of Metacritic too. If only there was some form of proof of purchase/download/view/play before you can rate. Was a time I'd trust user reviews over the critics. They're like polar opposites these days [the pro critics tend to over rate every other TV show, the likes of RT is proof of that]


    Yes, glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I wonder are critics wary of writing off the next big show or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Penn wrote: »
    It's her ex, but even then it's becoming clear the reason Maeve can't be with her is because she's afraid of what Homelander might do due to his jealousy. So I think it's definitely leading to confrontation between Maeve and Homelander.

    Which I think is great because all Maeve did last season was stand around, so at least she has some sort of a story now.

    In fairness the airplane scene (and her visit afterwards to her ex) was quite memorable from the last season. Hasn't had anything interesting in S3 so far.

    Black Noir for me is the biggest one that they've failed to explore at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    i thought its just been an ok start few things interesting but a bit meh

    also finding Hughie extremely annoying


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    My two main grumbles with the characters defiitely centre around Hughie & Butcher, but for entirely different reasons. Hughie is a passenger and seems incapable of making any impactful decisions himself; his total contribution to The Boys' plans amounts to sleeping with one of the Seven. There's only so far you can take his schtick of being a bit of a wimp, swooped up into the madness.

    Meanwhile, Butcher smells like a character the writers are way too in love with; he definitely has a cocky assh0le swagger to him, but it also feels like we should be in awe of his badassery, all vulgarity and leather coats. Just too Try Hard at times, with an air of the "Poochie" about him. His story ain't that interesting either TBH; a generic "dead wife" motivation arc that's just so played out and even after the Season 1 finale and reveal, couldn't find myself caring.

    Mother's Milk & Frenchie feel like better characters; especially the former who has both agency in his own choices, and something tangible to lose. And Frenchie has a better sense of mystery; heck he has a better sense of "cool" TBH. His accent is just as fake as Butcher's, but he's not trying to be the Coolest Guy in the Room either - thus making him cool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    Agree mostly with the above 2 posts, Hughie is a bit of a useless dope and this introverting himself thing over the last few eps is really fing irritating - either speak up or stop wasting screen time dipstick!

    Funny fact: I knew nothing about the actor playing Butcher, and didn't know Butcher was supposed to be a Cockney! I just jumped in and when he appeared thought "Ah, is he an Ozzy? or South African maybe?" The accent was so bad :D And yes, he can be annoying AF too but at least he keeps things moving where Hughie is slowing s**t up with his poor me routine constantly.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,365 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Karl Urban is from New Zealand, but he certainly doesn't make any effort to put on an English accent of any sort.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    Zaph wrote: »
    Karl Urban is from New Zealand, but he certainly doesn't make any effort to put on an English accent of any sort.

    That makes sense, as I often confuse SA for the Kiwi accent. It's about the worst attempt at Cockney I've heard to date outside of p*ss takes


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I could forgive the "cockney" accent if later on we find out it's a coping mechanism and manifestation of Butcher having had a mental breakdown at some point. Unless the show already outed him as actually English?

    Weirdly, I think the show knows it's an abysmal accent too, as the in-universe interstitials, the "dramatic reconstruction" of Stilwell's murder had a fake Butcher also pulling a horrendous English accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I could forgive the "cockney" accent if later on we find out it's a coping mechanism and manifestation of Butcher having had a mental breakdown at some point. Unless the show already outed him as actually English?

    Weirdly, I think the show knows it's an abysmal accent too, as the in-universe interstitials, the "dramatic reconstruction" of Stilwell's murder had a fake Butcher also pulling a horrendous English accent.

    There is that moment during a flashback between him and Homelander, an in joke that I get now but didn't then - HL turns to Butcher's wife and says "love that accent" after Butcher walks away [now I know that both actors are actually Kiwi]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    steve_r wrote: »
    In fairness the airplane scene (and her visit afterwards to her ex) was quite memorable from the last season. Hasn't had anything interesting in S3 so far.

    Black Noir for me is the biggest one that they've failed to explore at all.

    If the source material is anything to go by, his story will be incredible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    If the source material is anything to go by, his story will be incredible

    We did see the first signs of human emotion from him at least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Have Black Noir's powers been established in the show. From what I've seen it seems to be like super stealth and indestructible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭steve_r


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    If the source material is anything to go by, his story will be incredible
    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Have Black Noir's powers been established in the show. From what I've seen it seems to be like super stealth and indestructible?

    If they stay true to the comics, he is a hugely influential character. Don't want to say too much about the powers as it would be a bit of a giveaway, and spoil it for you.

    The few bits we've seen so far suggest a character marching to his own drumbeat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,641 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I think some comments on Hughie are harsh. The guy's connection to Starlight helped bring Vought's involvement with Compound V into the spotlight, which is their biggest achievement to date. He's hardly a passenger given he did that off his own initiative. And he's entitled to be pissed off at the others going back to Butcher over his head, seeing as Butcher left them for dead and he risked his own life to save them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Just started this show Saturday and I've caught up to s2e3, gutted I've nothing else to watch now. Are they released a particular day each week?
    Infinitely much better than all the summer superhero blockbusters released in last 10 years, they're just kids films now. Except deadpool. Asshole superheroes make great TV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Just started this show Saturday and I've caught up to s2e3, gutted I've nothing else to watch now. Are they released a particular day each week?
    Infinitely much better than all the summer superhero blockbusters released in last 10 years, they're just kids films now. Except deadpool. Asshole superheroes make great TV.

    I remember going to captain America in Liffey valley and I came out as in, that's it? How did it get such good reviews? I couldn't understand it. There was about one good insightful thing about him being weak but being strong and the rest was like a child's comic.

    There's many more layers to the boys, although tbh, Hughie is the ordinary man and he seems to deal exceptionally well with his murder of translucent...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    I remember going to captain America in Liffey valley and I came out as in, that's it? How did it get such good reviews? I couldn't understand it. There was about one good insightful thing about him being weak but being strong and the rest was like a child's comic.

    There's many more layers to the boys, although tbh, Hughie is the ordinary man and he seems to deal exceptionally well with his murder of translucent...

    They're just made for as wide an audience as possible and gone very pc now too... No substance at all to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,110 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Ive listened to this a couple of times since the episode, cheesy goodness :D



    Thats a young Adam Savage from Mythbusters in the video by the way, glasses guy that gets saved from drowning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    I think some comments on Hughie are harsh. The guy's connection to Starlight helped bring Vought's involvement with Compound V into the spotlight, which is their biggest achievement to date. He's hardly a passenger given he did that off his own initiative. And he's entitled to be pissed off at the others going back to Butcher over his head, seeing as Butcher left them for dead and he risked his own life to save them.

    Maybe, he's just boring AF in an action show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭Homelander


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    If the source material is anything to go by, his story will be incredible

    This is the thing, the show is different enough from the comics that it's not entirely predictable, but it does make a huge impact on how you see the show and characters unfolding, as it's been broadly true to the characters thus far.

    Really, really curious to see what comes of Stormfront.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,180 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Episode 3 was terrific I have to say.
    Aya Cash is so so good I just wish she had a bit more screentime maybe she will in the other episodes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    What time will these be released on Fridays?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,380 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Doing a rewatch of S1 at the minute.. blitzing through the 8 episodes so should be caught up after weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭golfball37


    What time will these be released on Fridays?

    I watched them around 9am last Friday anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    What time will these be released on Fridays?

    Episode 4 is up now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    Yup, ep-4 is up, and it's a little longer than usual for whatever reason [6-8 mins longer than the average ep to date]. Guess we'll find out, will watch tomorrow night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Watched just there. Filler episode but decent enough as it moved it on.

    There is a class billboard when they are driving south- had me in stitches. Little things like that are lovely touches


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Just when you thought that Homelander can't get any sicker they come up with that scene!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Good episode but Becca and butcher segment seemed a bit overly melodramatic. I obviously messed up as I was expecting butcher to question her about going off with homelander but she really was raped unless there's another twist.

    They'd enough time for a post coital chat, couldn't they have spoken about the son and come up with a better plan?

    Good point on demographics.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/anharkarim/2018/10/10/the-marvel-cinematic-universe-is-61-white-but-does-that-matter/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Nice twist with Stormfront - definitely an homicidal b*tch


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Nice twist with Stormfront - definitely an homicidal b*tch

    You didn't realise that last week when she murdered an entire apartment block for fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    You didn't realise that last week when she murdered an entire apartment block for fun.

    Ermm - the whole
    killing people since the 70's at least and not aging or...


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    That scene on the roof with Junior in Ep. 3, so funny!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Are all the Billy Joel tracks leading up to a cameo I wonder.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    I got a real David Lynch vibe off the scenes with Homelander and Doppelganger.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


    golfball37 wrote: »
    Watched just there. Filler episode but decent enough as it moved it on.


    Are you kidding? episodes like this serve a whole lot more to the story overall than the OTT hyper-active balls to the wall episodes ever can dream of.
      A-Train sacked
      Homelanders warped fantasies
      A new hero about to come in
      Butcher's wife and her to and fro
      Stormfront's mysterious [supposed] past]
      etc ...

      I thought it was a great episode, so many stuck stories moving along at last


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


      Are all the Billy Joel tracks leading up to a cameo I wonder.

      I hope not, that's the one thing I've hated most about this show, could never stand Billy Joel - have a friend who idolises him and I just cannot understand.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


      4: Hrmm..
      looks like this could be setting up Homelander to become the public super villian.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


      Slydice wrote: »
      4: Hrmm..
      looks like this could be setting up Homelander to become the public super villian.

      I thought that when
      He was try hard to push the Super Villain term instead of Super Terrorist


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,641 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


      Didn't think much of this episode.
      The Hughie/Starlight stuff started to grate with me for the first time and I hope they stay apart for a while. I was disappointed with how easily Butcher got to Becca. I thought they might string it out for a bit over the season but it all felt rather wasted. I was hoping they might do a jealous son storyline with Becca's kid towards Butcher, playing off of the envy that his father is famous for. I felt Homelander carried this episode. Surprised they killed Doppelganger off as there's a good bit of storyline potential with a shape-shifter. Wondering what he has in store for Maeve and her partner as I can't see them being left alone.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,180 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


      Didn't think much of this episode.
      The Hughie/Starlight stuff started to grate with me for the first time and I hope they stay apart for a while. I was disappointed with how easily Butcher got to Becca. I thought they might string it out for a bit over the season but it all felt rather wasted. I was hoping they might do a jealous son storyline with Becca's kid towards Butcher, playing off of the envy that his father is famous for. I felt Homelander carried this episode. Surprised they killed Doppelganger off as there's a good bit of storyline potential with a shape-shifter. Wondering what he has in store for Maeve and her partner as I can't see them being left alone.
      I don't disagree with much of that tbh but
      there is no reason why there can't be more people with the same power as doppelganger...there are plenty of speedy ones they mentioned A train would no longer be in the top 20
      I still thought it was a very fun episode


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,116 ✭✭✭✭Penn


      I'm guessing A-Train will get to keep his position given they were challenged on a lack of diversity and Homelander named him as their black team member.

      Loving the little snippets of Black Noir we're getting. Taking on the super terrorists in the first episode, crying when he learned about Compound V and then this episode.

      Again, more of Maeve's story which is great. The Homelander scenes were all great for various reasons. Butcher's reconciliation with Becky going wrong is a great move, would have been far too easy otherwise. The Stormfront story taking a great twist too.

      Enjoying the season so far anyway. Bound to be a slight lull after the first few episodes.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,110 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


      It was a stupid decision not to make anyone who joins The Boys
      take compound V and become super strong
      like in the comics.

      It makes them completely pointless, like why do the CIA and the rest of the feds give a sh1t about them? Wouldn't their own teams of specialists be completely superior in every way?

      Why does Butcher give a sh1t about Hughie when he's just some nothing dweeb? They're just ordinary nobodies now.

      Why is Mothers Milk called Mothers Milk if he doesn't do his thing? Did that not come up in any production meeting?

      It was a really bizarre decision that leaves the whole thing making no sense really.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Thecageyone


      There's a lot to nit pick at, but you either roll with it or give up, just like every other series out there. I'm enjoying it more now than I was to start, almost gave up on it midway through S1 tbh. Homelander is definitely my favourite character, you don't have to like what he does but you are definitely interested in what he'll do next


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


      All together a big divergence from the source material, but a decent interpretation. It almost seems like they are telling the origin of the boys rather than the end.

      I'm enjoying it.


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