Want to get married, totally lost in the details. Please help

ConfusedGuy32

Hello there.

My partner and I are trying to get married. I'm an Irish Citizen and she's a British Citizen but we were both born in England.

My mother is Irish and I have an Irish passport. She has no Irish family, but has lived here for most of her life (23 years).

We have most of the details for the wedding sorted out, except the part where you have to register your intent to be married that is at least 3 months notice prior to the wedding date. We're getting married in the hotel where we'll also be having the after party. The person who'll be marrying us will be doing so at the venue.

I've been googling for hours and am just completely confused in regards to what we need to do.

I see you can book an appointment at crsappointments (dot ie) to give them the required notice of the wedding, but I'm unsure of the following:

- Does my partner have to get some documents verified by the British embassy (like her birth cert or something?)
- What type of marriage it is... religious or other ? We are getting married on a Saturday so we'd be having a Spiritual Ceremony.
- Does my partner need a document requesting permission to get married from Britain?
- Is there any extra documents or verification that I need as an Irish citizen?

I know these questions are a bit broad, but I'm so lost and would really really appreciate some clear simple answers as to what we need to do to set the wheels in motion here.

Thank you so much in advance.

uck51js9zml2yt

What church are you getting married in?

Check here for details https://www.hse.ie/eng/births-deaths-and-marriages/how-to-get-married-in-ireland/

ConfusedGuy32

Gianni Mealy Raise wrote: »

What church are you getting married in?

Check here for details

Thanks. That was an important piece of information I forgot to add..

I've added that information to the OP and below.

We're getting married in the hotel where we'll also be having the after party. The person who'll be marrying us will be doing so at the venue.

love_love

You both require:

- PPSN
- Proof of address
- Passport
- Birth cert

You will both need your birth certs apostille stamped by the UK embassy.

Your partner may be asked for a letter declaring that she is not married in the UK - it is at the discretion of the HSE as to whether or not they will ask for this.

I may not be right on this one - I think a spiritual ceremony is a secular one. We're having a civil one (by a HSE registrar) so we couldn't book online, and had to call to make our appointment.

atilladehun

I can't help you with most of your problems but on the second one I'd say your answer is civil. You can only be married by a religious order (Catholic, Church of Ireland etc, Muslim, Jewish afaik) or Civil Marriage in the registry office or by a Humanist. People who chose to be married in a spiritualist ceremony must also get married in the registry office, usually on another date.

The people in the office where you register your intent to marry are nice. When you book it you can ask them.

This bit is only a guess but I'd say EU citizens don't need all that stuff. Just non EU. But that's a complete guess.

ConfusedGuy32

love_love wrote: »

You both require:

- PPSN
- Proof of address
- Passport
- Birth cert

You will both need your birth certs apostille stamped by the UK embassy.

Your partner may be asked for a letter declaring that she is not married in the UK - it is at the discretion of the HSE as to whether or not they will ask for this.

I may not be right on this one - I think a spiritual ceremony is a secular one. We're having a civil one (by a HSE registrar) so we couldn't book online, and had to call to make our appointment.

Hey!

Thanks so much for the detailed reply. This is exactly what I was looking for. I have no problem doing the dirty work, I just didn't know where to start.

I have a follow up question in regards to the appointment with the registry office...

Do I need to have the birth certs apostille stamped prior to making the appointment or can I do that after? I did some research on that and I read it can take 2>4 weeks to get the stamping done, which would mess up our timeline a bit.

We both have all the other documents you listed ready to go, so if we can do the apostille stamping after we've informed the registry office, that'd be great.

Thanks again!

atilladehun wrote: »

I can't help you with most of your problems but on the second one I'd say your answer is civil. You can only be married by a religious order (Catholic, Church of Ireland etc, Muslim, Jewish afaik) or Civil Marriage in the registry office or by a Humanist. People who chose to be married in a spiritualist ceremony must also get married in the registry office, usually on another date.

The people in the office where you register your intent to marry are nice. When you book it you can ask them.

This bit is only a guess but I'd say EU citizens don't need all that stuff. Just non EU. But that's a complete guess.

> People who chose to be married in a spiritualist ceremony must also get married in the registry office, usually on another date.

Is that part a fact or a guess? On the spiritualist site I mentioned, they state that they have the power and do legal marriages on the day of the event.

It's not a problem if we also have to get married in a registry office on a later date, but I'm curious.

Thank you

GingerLily

Some spiritualists are solomisers, as are some humanists, they can perform legal marriages.

They are catrogiesed as 'Religious' when you fill in your form, even though humanists are aethist.

love_love

ConfusedGuy32 wrote: »

Hey!
I have a follow up question in regards to the appointment with the registry office...

Do I need to have the birth certs apostille stamped prior to making the appointment or can I do that after? I did some research on that and I read it can take 2>4 weeks to get the stamping done, which would mess up our timeline a bit.

We both have all the other documents you listed ready to go, so if we can do the apostille stamping after we've informed the registry office, that'd be great.

Thanks again!

We just had our appointment - both myself and my partner are Irish but he was born abroad, and we hit a bump with his birth cert. We were allowed to go through with our appointment and he can drop in his stamped birth cert once we have it in the next few weeks.

I don't want to say for certain that they will allow yous to do that, especially since it is both of your certs that need stamping and your partner isn't Irish. I also made the appointment really far in advance, so we are giving far more than the required 3 months notice.

When is your wedding?

ConfusedGuy32

love_love wrote: »

We just had our appointment - both myself and my partner are Irish but he was born abroad, and we hit a bump with his birth cert. We were allowed to go through with our appointment and he can drop in his stamped birth cert once we have it in the next few weeks.

I don't want to say for certain that they will allow yous to do that, especially since it is both of your certs that need stamping and your partner isn't Irish. I also made the appointment really far in advance, so we are giving far more than the required 3 months notice.

When is your wedding?

Thanks for the info. I'm hoping we'll also be allowed to drop it in as soon as we get it.

We are hoping to get married on the 9th of February 2019

ConfusedGuy32

OSI wrote: »

You don't get apostille from embassy, you get it from the legalisation office in the UK. Details here:

You're supposed to have it done before you attend the registry office. Think mine took 2 weeks.

Thanks so much for the link!
Really appreciate it.

love_love

ConfusedGuy32 wrote: »

Thanks for the info. I'm hoping we'll also be allowed to drop it in as soon as we get it.

We are hoping to get married on the 9th of February 2019

If you're not getting married until Feb, can I ask why you're worried about not having the stamps in time? Have you made your appointment with the HSE yet? There's plenty of time between now and December to get the stamps sorted.

jlm29

Just FYI, I would say you should ring and make your appointment sooner rather than later.
I spoke to someone in my local office today- I happened to be ringing about something else, and when I was on, I asked about making an appointment to give our notification to marry. She told me not to leave it too tight on time, and if we wanted to get married in, for example August, we should be ringing to make our appointment in January. I didn’t ask why, but that’s what she said!