Ethics & Matchplay

GreeBo

You are playing a guy in a singles match...at some point during the match he breaks his putter in anger.

Does that change your approach to gimmies?

Fann Linn

Nothing better than getting your opponent take a 1 or 2 foot putt when he leasts expects it!

Miley Byrne

GreeBo wrote: »

You are playing a guy in a singles match...at some point during the match he breaks his putter in anger.

Does that change your approach to gimmies?

Not really, any putt I'd have given to him before he broke his putter i would expect him to hole with a wedge anyway.

And if he has a nasty 2 footer across a slope then he wouldn't be getting it off of me, broken putter or not

GreeBo

Fann Linn wrote: »

Nothing better than getting your opponent take a 1 or 2 foot putt when he leasts expects it!

If I broke my putter (which would never happen!) I'd expect to have to hole out everything.

Very easy miss a 5 inch putt if you are trying to belly a wedge or use a 3i or something

kennethrhcp

he breaks it in anger, he's lost control and needs to take his punishment. I voted only give tiny putts. i.e inches

SEORG

I went with option 2. Tiny putts being 6 inches (if its a club matchplay)

Interclub match.....option 3

Rikand

I voted option 2 but in hindsight maybe option 3. He's already broken his putter, maybe he might break another few clubs after a missed 6 incher

Irishdaywalker

Playing in interclub matches we where directed to give nothing . . but ultimately up to ourselves . . obviously if someone has 2 putts from 2 feet, then pick up and walk on. anything outside a grip length is not a gimme  

Anyone that gets annoyed about not getting a gimme is stupid. . if they feel it's a gimme then they should have no problem knocking it in ! !

GreeBo

Rikand wrote: »

I voted option 2 but in hindsight maybe option 3. He's already broken his putter, maybe he might break another few clubs after a missed 6 incher

I went option 3, if you cant control your temper to the point where you are breaking clubs then I'm going to use that against you.

Russman

Good question. It depends on the context.
In internal club match against someone I know, then I'll probably be decent and ignore the fact that he doesn't have a putter, in terms of what I'd give or not.
Important inter-club gig, then its option 2 I think. I just don't think I could be a cnut and ask a guy to putt out from 6 inches no matter what the circumstances tbh. Its not that important.

GreeBo

Russman wrote: »

Good question. It depends on the context.
In internal club match against someone I know, then I'll probably be decent and ignore the fact that he doesn't have a putter, in terms of what I'd give or not.
Important inter-club gig, then its option 2 I think. I just don't think I could be a cnut and ask a guy to putt out from 6 inches no matter what the circumstances tbh.

I think intra club I would cut the person some slack...assuming I knew/liked them

Russman wrote: »

Its not that important.

Important enough to break a putter apparently!

neddynasty

If the putter is broken in half are you allowed to kneel taking putts with the half putter?

I voted option 1. I wouldn't give anything over 18 inches anyway.

Henry Ford III

If someone breaks a putter in anger I'd wonder are they playing the wrong game.

GreeBo

neddynasty wrote: »

If the putter is broken in half are you allowed to kneel taking putts with the half putter?

I voted option 1. I wouldn't give anything over 18 inches anyway.

Right now you cant, but next year you will be able to.

Thinking about it more, I think I'd make him putt just to watch someone squatting down with a 1 foot putter to take a 6 inch putt

Miley Byrne

GreeBo wrote: »

I think intra club I would cut the person some slack...assuming I knew/liked them


Important enough to break a putter apparently!

So it actually happened?

GreeBo

Miley Byrne wrote: »

So it actually happened?

Not to me?

Miley Byrne

GreeBo wrote: »

Not to me?

Is that a question to me?

kennethrhcp

GreeBo wrote: »

Not to me?

Miley Byrne wrote: »

Is that a question to me?

The chuckle brothers alive & well

well... kind of anyway

Miley Byrne

kennethrhcp wrote: »

The chuckle brothers alive & well

well... kind of anyway

I wasn't sure how to respond to be honest.

Is it possible Greebo put a question mark at the end of a sentence instead of a full stop?

GreeBo

Miley Byrne wrote: »

I wasn't sure how to respond to be honest.

Is it possible Greebo put a question mark at the end of a sentence instead of a full stop?

I dunno, you should ask him!

Your post seemed to imply that the incident had happened to me...so I replied that it hadn't happened to me, but wasn't sure if you were actually asking me or not.


Man this is confusing.:o

Miley Byrne

GreeBo wrote: »

Important enough to break a putter apparently!

This makes it apparent that it didn't happen to you but that it may have actually happened to someone else, hence why I asked the question "So it actually happened?"

Not that confusing really.

Now your response of "Not to me?" was really confusing

lawred2

GreeBo wrote: »

You are playing a guy in a singles match...at some point during the match he breaks his putter in anger.

Does that change your approach to gimmies?

Did this happen?

Either way - after that I'd make him hole everything.

Miley Byrne

lawred2 wrote: »

Did this happen?

Either way - after that I'd make him hole everything.

Not to Greebo???????

GreeBo

Miley Byrne wrote: »

This makes it apparent that it didn't happen to you but that it may have actually happened to someone else,

No it doesnt!

The whole premise is that if someone was to break their putter then it was obviously important enough for them to break their putter.

Miley Byrne wrote: »

hence why I asked the question "So it actually happened?"

Not that confusing really.

Now your response of "Not to me?" was really confusing

My response was because I didnt/dont understand why you thought my post meant that it had actually happened.

Miley Byrne

GreeBo wrote: »

No it doesnt!

The whole premise is that if someone was to break their putter then it was obviously important enough for them to break their putter.


My response was because I didnt/dont understand why you thought my post meant that it had actually happened.

Oh man,

When you replied to Russman saying that "it was important enough to break a putter apparently" then it is reasonable to assume that it actually happened.

In future just make it a bit clearer whether the scenario is real or hypothetical so we can avoid any confusion, thanks

GreeBo

Miley Byrne wrote: »

When you replied to Russman saying that "it was important enough to break a putter apparently" then it is reasonable to assume that it actually happened.

Not at all. In a thread about someone breaking a putter, the opening premise is that a putter has broken.
Russman said golf is not that important, I said, in the context of this thread, it is important enough to break a putter.

Miley Byrne wrote: »

In future just make it a bit clearer whether the scenario is real or hypothetical so we can avoid any confusion, thanks

It was clear until you assumed something for no reason.

Miley Byrne

GreeBo wrote: »

Not at all. In a thread about someone breaking a putter, the opening premise is that a putter has broken.
Russman said golf is not that important, I said, in the context of this thread, it is important enough to break a putter.




It was clear until you assumed something for no reason.

:D:D:D

Bottle

A gimmie is a big psychological thing, first time i played Barton Cup my playing partner pulled me aside and made it clear that we should expect to putt everything out like it was stroke play. If he hadn't said that I would have been very surprised the next day when our opponents wouldn't even give 3 or 4 inch putts. We beat them on the 16th.

If somebody breaks their putter intentionally that is their problem and you should not be put at a disadvantage because of it. Think of if they broke their driver intentionally....