New Holland tl90

red bull

Thinking of buying a New Holland tl90, what ae the pro's and cons ? would like to hear your views

Grueller

red bull wrote: »

Thinking of buying a New Holland tl90, what ae the pro's and cons ? would like to hear your views

Great tractor. Get the electronic shuttle rather than manual if you are putting a loader on.

White Clover

red bull wrote: »

Thinking of buying a New Holland tl90, what ae the pro's and cons ? would like to hear your views

Pros would be it's fiat design and if it has power shuttle. The only con I can think of is the hitch...new holland are not good at hitches!

K.G.

The best tractor you ll ever buy.

kay 9

Bomb proof reliability and pokey little tractors. Typical fiat

josephsoap

Just had a look at a few in DoneDeal, there doesn’t seem to be passenger seat in them ?

When ever I upgrade again I would like a passenger seat for the young lad

red bull

josephsoap wrote: »

Just had a look at a few in DoneDeal, there doesn’t seem to be passenger seat in them ?

When ever I upgrade again I would like a passenger seat for the young lad

Maybe that's a good omen ! Passenger seats in tractors are usually for a mechanic ?

K.G.

josephsoap wrote: »

Just had a look at a few in DoneDeal, there doesn’t seem to be passenger seat in them ?

When ever I upgrade again I would like a passenger seat for the young lad

There is a flat rubber area they can sit on up to 12 or fourteen but its getting small for my lads now.At the bottom of the window there are two studs and i just put a middle seatbelt out of a car back seat and there is a little hand rail at the back window as well.safe as houses

mycro2013

You can buy a John Deere type foldable seat and retrofit it.

But on the subject of passenger seats in tractors they can be a grey area. Was at a HSA conference and tractor seats came up.

The official line from the HSA is these seats were fitted to allow the training of new operators and not the carrying of passengers as additional safety measures are required. ( Fitting of a safety belt and additional door securing mechanisms to prevent the door opening inadvertently.)

Grueller

Any harm to ask the details of the machine? Year, spec, loader or no, and most important price?

twin_beacon

very good machine, fairly basic and very common so loads of mechanics know them and loads of parts available. Ideal stock man tractor. They are a descendant of the Fiat 90s series, but a far more comfortable machine with much better cab visibility.

red bull

Grueller wrote: »

Any harm to ask the details of the machine? Year, spec, loader or no, and most important price?

Year 2002,4000hours,Quickie power loader, €25,000

TooOldBoots

red bull wrote: »

Year 2002,4000hours,Quickie power loader, €25,000

A lot of money for a 16 year old tractor. 4000 hours seems low too, is it one of those "parked up all year" Tractors?

Grueller

TooOldBoots wrote: »

A lot of money for a 16 year old tractor. 4000 hours seems low too, is it one of those "parked up all year" Tractors?

I farm 135 acres. My main tractor has done 2400 hours in 10 years with me. A 90 hp tractor is a stockman tractor and generally does small hours.

red bull

A friend is telling me a Landini Vision is a better tractor and can be bought cheaper ? I think I would rather a New Holland

Grueller

red bull wrote: »

A friend is telling me a Landini Vision is a better tractor and can be bought cheaper ? I think I would rather a New Holland

Is he selling a vision?

red bull

Grueller wrote: »

Is he selling a vision?

No but his brother has one and he thinks its a modern version of a mf 390

red bull

Whats the difference between a tl90 and a tl90a

Muckit

Grueller wrote: »

I farm 135 acres. My main tractor has done 2400 hours in 10 years with me. A 90 hp tractor is a stockman tractor and generally does small hours.

True. 2hrs per acre per yr. Especially if contractor does the majority of your work.

What have you? The winter feeding a few minutes every other day, bit of topping, few hours spreading fert. Few hours drawing and stacking bales.

Some lads would stay driving tractor all day, not sure what they're at!!

hopeso

red bull wrote: »

No but his brother has one and he thinks its a modern version of a mf 390

It isn't.....

mayota

Muckit wrote: »

True. 2hrs per acre per yr. Especially if contractor does the majority of your work.

What have you? The winter feeding a few minutes every other day, bit of topping, few hours spreading fert. Few hours drawing and stacking bales.

Some lads would stay driving tractor all day, not sure what they're at!!

Never heard that one, 2hrs/acre/year. Very true tho.

twin_beacon

red bull wrote: »

No but his brother has one and he thinks its a modern version of a mf 390

No blood relation at all, the only relationship they would have is that the Landini parent company ARGO is owned by AGCO, the company that owns massey (and Fendt, Valtra, Challenger....). But no components from the Massey 300 series ended up on the landini Vision.

red bull wrote: »

Whats the difference between a tl90 and a tl90a

the "A" models were introduced around 2004 on the TL series.
All the new features are listed here https://www.farminguk.com/News/New-Holland-TL-A-Series-tractors_1112.html

patsy_mccabe

The Landini Blizzard 85 has the same engine as the Massey 390. The Perkins A4.248.

Loves_lorries

Am I right in saying a case jxu 90 is identical to the NH TL90?

Sami23

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Am I right in saying a case jxu 90 is identical to the NH TL90?

I believe the identical Case is the JX1090U but am open to correction on that

josephsoap

Anyone have any experience with the new Holland T5050 or T5060 tractors ? Are they as realiable as older TL 90 series ?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-t5050/19307259 Tidy looking one here

I’ll be coming from a 390 when I upgrade.

K.G.

I was told by a new holland mechanic once that tl s are better than tla s s.something in the clutchs i think.he also said stay away from td s

tabby aspreme

There are a few L95 New Holland's for sale on DD , are they a similar machine to the TL .

Grueller

tabby aspreme wrote: »

There are a few L95 New Holland's for sale on DD , are they a similar machine to the TL .

Same only in fiat colours.

kay 9

tabby aspreme wrote: »

There are a few L95 New Holland's for sale on DD , are they a similar machine to the TL .

Same as the 35 series.
Main difference in the tl being they had the option of power shuttle

queueeye

josephsoap wrote: »

Anyone have any experience with the new Holland T5050 or T5060 tractors ? Are they as realiable as older TL 90 series ?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-holland-t5050/19307259 Tidy looking one here

I’ll be coming from a 390 when I upgrade.

Traded a tl 90 for a t5050 a few years back. T 5050 is a superior tractor and extremely reliable. Will need a counter weight on the back for loader work but it’s a great machine.

Sami23

queueeye wrote: »

Traded a tl 90 for a t5050 a few years back. T 5050 is a superior tractor and extremely reliable. Will need a counter weight on the back for loader work but it’s a great machine.

What year were the 2 tractors and what sort of money did the T5050 set you back ?

queueeye

Sami23 wrote: »

queueeye wrote: »

Traded a tl 90 for a t5050 a few years back. T 5050 is a superior tractor and extremely reliable. Will need a counter weight on the back for loader work but it’s a great machine.

What year were the 2 tractors and what sort of money did the T5050 set you back ?

2000 and 2009, 22k with trade in.

bogman_bass

Is the TL90 this generations MF390?

highly desirable second hand tractor slightly overpriced for what it is due to its reputation?

twin_beacon

Its a fair comparison to make. Both are fairly basic tractors that if looked after fairly well can last a lifetime.

Muckit

When a tractor is popular, it's popular for a reason. Same with cars.

They're built on a solid foundation.....a fiat with 40k gearbox....and without the rust! Onto a winner from get go!

Fiats were a step above the 390 IMO every which way but they'll be remembered for the rust, which is unfortunate. Even the 80 series fiat way back in early 80s, just look at it's competitiors offerings. Fiat were always that step ahead comfort wise.

twin_beacon

very true. There is an 80 90 on done deal doe 22k at the moment, and it will make that price tag.

Muckit

twin_beacon wrote: »

very true. There is an 80 90 on done deal doe 22k at the moment, and it will make that price tag.

Yeah seen that one. Lovely yoke. But ld get it hard to go back to a yoke without 40k box now, not that l do loads of road work.

B Rabbit

Hi Folks,
On the lookout for one of these. They seem to be making strong money in the dealers (25k+ for early 00s).
Would the manual shuttle be ok if you were doing very little loader work? Or is it best to just go for an electronic shuttle?

Sami23

B Rabbit wrote: »

Hi Folks,
On the lookout for one of these. They seem to be making strong money in the dealers (25k+ for early 00s).
Would the manual shuttle be ok if you were doing very little loader work? Or is it best to just go for an electronic shuttle?

My advice is stay away from dealers. There only fleecing you.
As regards the shuttles if you can get the electronic they great but if you can't and the tractor is tidy and good value go with the manual.

B Rabbit

Sami23 wrote: »

My advice is stay away from dealers. There only fleecing you.
As regards the shuttles if you can get the electronic they great but if you can't and the tractor is tidy and good value go with the manual.

Thanks, We have a trade in also hence going with dealer would make it easier.

josephsoap

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/08-new-holland-tl90a-quicke-x31-29995-incl-vat/19760031

Not bad value here for a TL90a here with a loader ....8000 hours though.

Would you notice a difference coming from a 390 to one of these tractors power and comfort wise ?

cute geoge

josephsoap wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/08-new-holland-tl90a-quicke-x31-29995-incl-vat/19760031

Not bad value here for a TL90a here with a loader ....8000 hours though.

Would you notice a difference coming from a 390 to one of these tractors power and comfort wise ?

What the f**k is he on about a manual shuttle ,that tractor looks to only have the same gearbox as a Fiat and a f**k up with a loader .
You would need one of them with power shuttle and a splitter in gearbox would be an added bonus .In my book that is a very dear tractor and not that desireable to trade in afterwards either!!!

Limestone Cowboy

cute geoge wrote: »

What the f**k is he on about a manual shuttle ,that tractor looks to only have the same gearbox as a Fiat and a f**k up with a loader .
You would need one of them with power shuttle and a splitter in gearbox would be an added bonus .In my book that is a very dear tractor and not that desireable to trade in afterwards either!!!

Very narrow tyres aswell.

White Clover

cute geoge wrote: »

What the f**k is he on about a manual shuttle ,that tractor looks to only have the same gearbox as a Fiat and a f**k up with a loader .
You would need one of them with power shuttle and a splitter in gearbox would be an added bonus .In my book that is a very dear tractor and not that desireable to trade in afterwards either!!!

Manual shuttle lever is at left hand side of seat, same as fiat 80-90, NH 6635, TL 90 etc

cute geoge

White Clover wrote: »

Manual shuttle lever is at left hand side of seat, same as fiat 80-90, NH 6635, TL 90 etc

Looking at the photos there does not look to be any shuttle on left hand side of seat ,only 2 gear sticks

White Clover

cute geoge wrote: »

Looking at the photos there does not look to be any shuttle on left hand side of seat ,only 2 gear sticks

Picture 4. Just inside the door. Can't miss it!

Sami23

cute geoge wrote: »

Looking at the photos there does not look to be any shuttle on left hand side of seat ,only 2 gear sticks

Gear stick on left of seat is the shuttle and the tyres do look narrow alrit.

Also it's a 07 not a 08 tractor

Timmaay

red bull wrote: »

A friend is telling me a Landini Vision is a better tractor and can be bought cheaper ? I think I would rather a New Holland

Visions not bad, very reliable in general (fuel pumps about the only big common issues with them), manual shuttle ones have a God awful dashboard lever that needs a new cable at least once a yr, and if it's anyway lose and hard to pull I'd avoid that tractor, prb got abuse and whole dashboard mount could well need changing. Power shuttles aren't bad, except for it being slow enough to engage gears (which wrecks my head ill admit coming from a fully manual previously).

On the manual tl, the one in the photo seems to have ground mounted gear levers, on of the neighbours ts the gear levers are all nice short levers mounted up beside the arm rest, forward and reverse is very nice to use in my view, and the nicest manual tractor I've ever drove, I'd happily have one of them for in and out of a pit instead of a powershuttle that has more things to go wrong with.

cute geoge

Timmaay wrote: »

Visions not bad, very reliable in general (fuel pumps about the only big common issues with them), manual shuttle ones have a God awful dashboard lever that needs a new cable at least once a yr, and if it's anyway lose and hard to pull I'd avoid that tractor, prb got abuse and whole dashboard mount could well need changing. Power shuttles aren't bad, except for it being slow enough to engage gears (which wrecks my head ill admit coming from a fully manual previously).

On the manual tl, the one in the photo seems to have ground mounted gear levers, on of the neighbours ts the gear levers are all nice short levers mounted up beside the arm rest, forward and reverse is very nice to use in my view, and the nicest manual tractor I've ever drove, I'd happily have one of them for in and out of a pit instead of a powershuttle that has more things to go wrong with.

Nothing to go wrong with a manual shuttle except you will burn out a dry clutch in less then 3000 hours

hopeso

Timmaay wrote: »

On the manual tl, the one in the photo seems to have ground mounted gear levers, on of the neighbours ts the gear levers are all nice short levers mounted up beside the arm rest,

That's because they are two totally different tractors...The TL is derived from a Fiat, while the TS is derived from a Ford.