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Munster vs Ulster, Sat 29 Sep, 7:35pm, Eir Sports

  • 28-09-2018 11:06am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Munster:
    Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Dan Goggin, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Joey Carbery, Alby Mathewson;
    Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, Stephen Archer; Tadhg Beirne, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Tommy O’Donnell, CJ Stander.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, James Cronin, Ciaran Parker, Jean Kleyn, Arno Botha, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Sammy Arnold.

    Ulster:
    (15-9): Peter Nelson, Craig Gilroy, Darren Cave, Angus Curtis, Angus Kernohan, Billy Burns, John Cooney;

    (1-8): Andrew Warwick, Adam McBurney, Ross Kane, Alan O’Connor (Capt), Iain Henderson, Matthew Rea, Nick Timoney, Jean Deysel.

    Replacements: John Andrew, Eric O’Sullivan, Tom O’Toole, Kieran Treadwell, Clive Ross, Dave Shanahan, Michael Lowry, James Hume.

    Munster host the only remaining unbeaten team in the Pro14. The home side will be looking to their home patch to bounce back from some very questionable away form, with defeats in Cardiff and Glasgow. Munster welcome back Billy Holland and Niall Scannell from injury with Alby Mathewson making his debut at scrum-half. Sammy Arnold's selection ahead of Jaco Taute on the bench could point to Arnold being the preferred centre partner with Rory Scannell come Europe. The back three selection of Earls-Haley-Conway could be a dress rehearsal for the games ahead.

    I don't get to see much of Ulster so I'll allow someone else to chime in on them! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Scythica


    Ulster on the other hand are looking to get everyone off the match bus without another injury


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,472 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    I know Ulster had injuries, but that looks a very weak team. Another big home win for Munster that answers absolutely no questions is on the cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Big game for Munster. Curious to see Mathewson in action. Great to see Scannell (N) (hopefully that sorts lineout issues) and Earls back. I'd imagine we'll see a similar looking side over the next couple of weeks (Arnold slotting into centre, as thomond said). Some power coming off the bench with Kleyn and Botha in particular.

    🤪



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Cloete out of the 23, wonder will TOD get the nod over the next few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Tomtom364


    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    Big game for Munster. Curious to see Mathewson in action. Great to see Scannell (N) (hopefully that sorts lineout issues) and Earls back. I'd imagine we'll see a similar looking side over the next couple of weeks (Arnold slotting into centre, as thomond said). Some power coming off the bench with Kleyn and Botha in particular.
    aloooof wrote: »
    Cloete out of the 23, wonder will TOD get the nod over the next few weeks.


    Not a hope I'd say. Cloete offers far too much to be left out. Lethal at rucks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I know Ulster had injuries, but that looks a very weak team. Another big home win for Munster that answers absolutely no questions is on the cards.

    Here's our "out injured team".

    1) Kyle McCall
    2) Rory Best
    3) Marty Moore
    4) Peter Browne
    5) N/A
    6) Jordi Murphy
    7) Sean Reidy
    8) Marcell Coetzee
    9) N/A
    10) N/A
    11) Jacob Stockdale
    12) Luke Marshall
    13) Louis Ludik
    14) Rob Lyttle
    15) Will Addison
    16) Rob Herring
    17) Tommy O'Hagan
    18) Wiehann Herbst
    19) N/A
    20) Chris Henry
    21) N/A
    22) N/A
    23) Henry Speight

    And McCloskey's rested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    aloooof wrote: »
    Cloete out of the 23, wonder will TOD get the nod over the next few weeks.

    Rested I'd say. He's an absolute certainty to start in Europe IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Sorry, yeah, Cloete looks like a shoe-in. Does TOD then fall out altogether. Taute to bench to cover centre and 15? Or will Keatley cover 15. Some interesting calls to be made, which is a nice problem to have. Although, a problem for another week :)

    Hopefully we'll see the intensity and focus from the off until the final whistle goes. Some serious questions being asked about team and VG after the two defeats. But we need to see the response not only this week, but in the coming big games (and the ones that are less of a focal point too).

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    Sorry, yeah, Cloete looks like a shoe-in. Does TOD then fall out altogether. Taute to bench to cover centre and 15? Or will Keatley cover 15. Some interesting calls to be made, which is a nice problem to have. Although, a problem for another week :)

    Hopefully we'll see the intensity and focus from the off until the final whistle goes. Some serious questions being asked about team and VG after the two defeats. But we need to see the response not only this week, but in the coming big games (and the ones that are less of a focal point too).

    Taute looked off the pace against Cardiff. Arnold is ahead of him right now. Sweetnam might be the player for the #23 shirt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    First Munster cap for Alby Mathewson.

    First potential (senior) Ulster cap for Lowry (and maybe Hume?) First starts for McBurney and Curtis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    I know Ulster had injuries, but that looks a very weak team. Another big home win for Munster that answers absolutely no questions is on the cards.

    I'm not sure if McCloskey has picked up a knock but other than that (you can argue the toss at TH), that is our strongest available side.

    I reckon Munster will win with a bit to spare, but I don't think we will get hammered either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    First Munster cap for Alby Mathewson.

    First potential (senior) Ulster cap for Lowry (and maybe Hume?) First starts for McBurney and Curtis.

    Yeah it will be a first cap for Hume if gets off the bench


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    I'm actually loving this whole 'rebuilding' phase Ulster are going through - I can secretly dream of an Ulster win, and tell people I'm not crying because the loss was expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 odd_job


    Where is McPhillips? Is he injured?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    odd_job wrote: »
    Where is McPhillips? Is he injured?

    No, starting for the "A"s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Does McPhillips deserve to be relegated to third choice? He looked impressive last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,941 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    I fear that Ulster are in for a good old fashioned humping and will need buckets of metaphoric lubricant putting out such a weakened team. At least this one is because there is little choice rather than the ludicrous 'not targetting a win' selections of Loser Les.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Does McPhillips deserve to be relegated to third choice? He looked impressive last season.

    I don't think it's a case he's been relegated to third choice, just more a case that Lowry offers more versatility in the 22 shirt when an Ulster back player inevitably gets injured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    I suspect that that's why Curtis has featured ahead of him as well - obviously they're comfortable with him starting at 12 this week.

    I think McFarland probably wanted to bed in his team at the start of the season, and start getting our first choice halfbacks used to playing together. McPhilips might start to feature in some of our easier home fixtures. I'd hate to see McPhilips stall because of Dan trying to be pragmatic about all the disruption and new combinations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    I don't think it's a case he's been relegated to third choice, just more a case that Lowry offers more versatility in the 22 shirt when an Ulster back player inevitably gets injured.

    Also, it’s 80 minutes at 10 for the A team, versus possibly 15 minutes coming on for the Senior team, or maybe even subbing in at fullback.
    Better to play for the A team given that scenario.
    Do hope McPhillips gets a run for the Seniors soon, put some pressure on Burns, and in his own right deserves a shot to win the jersey after a few fine showings last season when the team needed a 10 to step forward.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Does McPhillips deserve to be relegated to third choice? He looked impressive last season.

    He does deserve a chance, but I guess McFarland has to do what's best for the team. Giving Burns and Cooney as much gametime together as possible is important.

    The fact he didn't even get off the bench in SA is interesting, in fact but for late withdrawals before the Cheetahs match he wouldn't even have been in the 23.

    I also suspect Curtis and particularly Lowry are very highly regarded so we will see what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Munster:
    Andrew Conway; Keith Earls Dan Goggin, Rory Scannell, Alex Wootton ; Joey Carbery, Alby Mathewson;
    Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, Stephen Archer; Tadhg Beirne, Billy Holland; Peter O’Mahony (C), Tommy O’Donnell, CJ Stander.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, James Cronin, Ciaran Parker, Jean Kleyn, Arno Botha, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Sammy Arnold

    Mike Haley ruled out. Wootton comes straight into the starting XV with Earls swopping wings and Conway moving to fullback.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,172 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Carbery out of leinster game then I wonder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Carbery out of leinster game then I wonder

    It would be a pity but it's pointing towards it. The question then is who starts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,701 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    this interviewer is shocking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭SSr0


    snotboogie wrote: »
    this interviewer is shocking

    She's terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭kuang1


    If anyone has a link for a non-eir subscriber I'd be grateful for a pm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Very, very poor attendance for a derby game at beer o'clock on a saturday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    More of this please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Was the dive on Goggin really necessary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Good bit of luck in that try but the turnover from POM was class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Woof!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    'interesting to see how we respond to their line-speed' says Dan McFarland before the game.

    Will be feckin fascinating now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Cave and Gilroy should forfeit some of their wages for that, shocking defence


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    That was piss poor from Cave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Link of a live feed anyone? Pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Mathewson at QB next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Mathewson came from NFL did he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    What in the jaysis was Cave even attempting there, a little shoulder bump of a tackle or attempted tackle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    Handling this week all-around has been better already..and Matthewsen has looked impressive so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    POM has assumed the Cloete role so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Love Earls game plan. Catch the kick off but then give it to a big forward then run as far away as possible from the rough stuff :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,724 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    That's the last thing Ulster or Ireland needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    The Henderson HiA was caused by the tackle on Carberry, cmon Toland, watch the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Carbery completely lost where Earls was on the pitch with that kick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Cave is having a tough night


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Mathewson not watching the play at the back of the maul there. Needs to be calling for that ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Easy enough.

    We won't learn much from this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Cooney and Henderson gone.

    Fecking hell

    McBurney looks good, that's all I've got...


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