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Turn right and change up to second

  • 21-09-2018 2:40pm
    #1
    BarraOG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I’m stopped at a stop sign. How do I practice turning right and shifting up to second before completing the turn? I use the pull push technique when turning although I’m still perfecting it. What speed / revs should I be doing when I can change to second? Can/should it be done with both hands on the wheel while doing the turning part?

    Thanks!


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  • #2
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Revs depends on car.

    If the turn is quite tight, just take it easy in first and gear up after when you straighten up.


  • #3
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    Like above it depends on how tight the turn is/the space you have to accelerate into before turning.

    Practice getting to 2nd quicker from 1st when on the straight. Do this off road so you’re not under any pressure.


  • #4
    BarraOG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭BarraOG


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    Like above it depends on how tight the turn is/the space you have to accelerate into before turning.

    Practice getting to 2nd quicker from 1st when on the straight. Do this off road so you’re not under any pressure.

    I live near a car park so I can practice there. What should I practice after practicing changing from 1st to 2nd quickly? What is the standard procedure when turning right? Can I start with my right hand at the top of the steering wheel and my left on the gearbox? Then once I pull away, I change as quickly as possible to second then get my left hand back on the wheel to start or continue the pull/push maneuver as required by the tightness of the swing.


  • #5
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    BarraOG wrote: »
    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    Like above it depends on how tight the turn is/the space you have to accelerate into before turning.

    Practice getting to 2nd quicker from 1st when on the straight. Do this off road so you’re not under any pressure.

    I live near a car park so I can practice there. What should I practice after practicing changing from 1st to 2nd quickly? What is the standard procedure when turning right? Can I start with my right hand at the top of the steering wheel and my left on the gearbox? Then once I pull away, I change as quickly as possible to second then get my left hand back on the wheel to start or continue the pull/push maneuver as required by the tightness of the swing.

    It depends on how wide the junction is. Aim, if possible, to get to 2nd prior to turning but ONLY if you’ve enough space to accelerate sufficiently to allow you to get to 2nd. Keep both hands on the wheel until it’s time to change up. Start the turn with your right hand at 12 on the wheel and pull push like you said.
    If you don’t have time to do it, turn in 1st then go to 2nd.


  • #6
    Posy
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    I'm finding this difficult too, I'm glad I'm not the only one!!


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
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    It is acceptable to perform the turn in first (slowly of course) & to select second after straightening.


  • #8
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Shouldn't your ADI be telling you how to do this? They'll know the test routes and will be able to tell you how to deal with each junction.


  • #9
    Posy
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    Mine has, anyway. But it's still hard to get the hang of. Just practice and perseverance, I guess. :)


  • #10
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Posy wrote: »
    Mine has, anyway. But it's still hard to get the hang of. Just practice and perseverance, I guess. :)

    That's it. The theory can be painful but with enough practice it'll come to you and then you'll wonder what the problem was, don't over think it.

    Good luck.


  • #11
    Jim Gazebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    My ADI when I was learning said you can shift as you turn. Taking hand off wheel to do it on turn is not a problem, as long as you still have good control of the car. I. E you still turn properly


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  • #12
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I doubt you'd fail a test over it but I was taught never to try changing gear on a turn (in talking about anything around 90°).


  • #13
    Jim Gazebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    evolving_doors wrote: »
    I doubt you'd fail a test over it but I was taught never to try changing gear on a turn (in talking about anything around 90°).

    I'm not saying your wrong, but my ADI seemed really on the ball. He always seemed to have it right when it came to these things, I changed gears turning on every sharp right turn in my test and passed. Again, it might depend on the tester and I really don't know if it is right or not. Just the advice he gave me and I'd trust him.


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