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Stan & Ollie

  • 19-09-2018 5:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭


    Based on the lives of the comedy double act Laurel and Hardy, the film stars Steve Coogan and John C. Reilly as Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭TheBigEvil


    Based on the lives of the comedy double act Laurel and Hardy, the film stars Steve Coogan and John C. Reilly as Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy.


    Have to say I wasn't looking forward to seeing what they had done with the greatest comedy double act of all time, but I have to say Coogan sounds great as Stan and John C. Reilly as Ollie. Hopefully the full film does them justice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Wedwood


    They played in the Olympia Theatre in Dublin as part of that tour in the early 1950's and stayed in the Royal Marine Hotel in Dun Laoghaire for the duration.

    I think that's a movie to be seen in the Stella cinema.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    Coogan's accent is a bit dodge!!

    John C. Really really looks the part!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,763 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Can't wait, grew up on Laurel and Hardy repeats as a kid in the 90's, still watch them regularly enough to this day. Huge fan, hope this is good


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Wedwood wrote: »
    They played in the Olympia Theatre in Dublin as part of that tour in the early 1950's and stayed in the Royal Marine Hotel in Dun Laoghaire for the duration.

    I think that's a movie to be seen in the Stella cinema.

    At 1:53 there's a crowd scene at what appears to be Cobh harbour, so looks like the film may partially take place in Ireland.

    Looks all right; tbh I've never actually seen a Laurel & Hardy film / sketch in its entirety, so not immediately drawn to what appears to be a fairly cut n' dry biography.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Relikk


    pixelburp wrote: »
    tbh I've never actually seen a Laurel & Hardy film / sketch in its entirety, so not immediately drawn to what appears to be a fairly cut n' dry biography.

    AH HEOR!

    Do yourself a favour and watch this...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Or this



    Or this



    I’ve loved Laurel and Hardy since I taped all their movies off RTÉ when I was a kid. Wasn’t too keen on this but the trailer was better than I thought it would be - Reilly looks the part as Hardy (albeit with heavy prosthetics) and Coogan looks decent as Laurel (looks more the part when he’s performing as Laurel than offstage Laurel)

    Will definitely check it out, even if the trailer gives a lot of the plot and structure away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    it was a real staple of 70's TV , I guess it was cheap lol and I can only imagine L&H influenced shows like Only Fools and Horses.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    pixelburp wrote: »
    At 1:53 there's a crowd scene at what appears to be Cobh harbour, so looks like the film may partially take place in Ireland.

    Looks all right; tbh I've never actually seen a Laurel & Hardy film / sketch in its entirety, so not immediately drawn to what appears to be a fairly cut n' dry biography.

    As the film is about their farewell tour I think that gives it an advantage over it just being a standard cut n'dry biography. Hopefully there will be more focus to it.

    I'm looking forward to it. Laurel and Hardy were a big part of my life growing up, they've had me in stitches so many times. From all that I've read about them, they seem to have had enormous love and affection for each other and I hope that comes across in the film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Don't think I've seen any of their stuff so will check out the ones posted. My experience with them is from the cartoons


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    Way out West is a classic, I loved that movie as a kid.

    It's up on YouTube if anyone's interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Relikk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,037 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    /\


    You beat me to it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,931 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    Very disappointed with the trailer tbh. Grew up with Laurel and Hardy so was looking forward to this but Coogan's accent is all over the place, I just kept hearing his Paul Calf character in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    pixelburp wrote: »
    At 1:53 there's a crowd scene at what appears to be Cobh harbour, so looks like the film may partially take place in Ireland.
    The love and affection we found that day at Cobh was simply unbelievable. There were hundreds of boats blowing whistles and mobs and mobs of people screaming on the docks. We just couldn't understand what it was all about. And then something happened that I can never forget. All the church bells in Cobh started to ring out our theme song "Dance of the Cuckoos" and Babe looked at me and we cried. I'll never forget that day. Never.

    All Oliver Hardy's friends called him Babe.

    Laurel and Hardy visited Ireland twice. The first time they played two weeks at the Olympia. I remember reading Hugh Leonard's description of it. When "Dance of the Cuckoos" played, just prior to their arrival on stage, the audience went absolutely mental.

    The second time they stayed for about a month in Dun Laoghaire but only did one show.

    When staying in Dun Laoghaire they got invited to attend a wedding reception. I was certain I had seen a clip from a trailer showing this, but it dosent seem to exist, so I must have imagined it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,075 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Very disappointed with the trailer tbh. Grew up with Laurel and Hardy so was looking forward to this but Coogan's accent is all over the place, I just kept hearing his Paul Calf character in it.
    I don't know what accent to expect, frankly. Stan Laurel was English, but after spending all those years in the USA, a little confusion might be understandable. :cool:

    Full trailer just out:

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    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    yup gonna go watch that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    well....is it worth the trip to the cinema or should i wait till the dvd release


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,313 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I'm going to see it tomorrow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It's a BBC Films filum so I'd not be surprised if it's a Christmas treat this year 2019


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Seen it a few days back and loved it.

    I think both John C and Steve's performances deserve an accolade or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,464 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Heard in the movies there last shows took place in
    Olympia Dublin
    ???

    If so how come they don't make a big deal of it there ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Hard boiled eggs and nuts on standyby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Heard in the movies there last shows took place in
    Olympia Dublin
    ???

    If so how come they don't make a big deal of it there ?

    They played one night at the Olympia on their final tour in 1953. They then moved on to the UK where they played their final stage show in 1954.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    Laurel & Hardy were incredible performers. They reshot quite a lot of their shows for the overseas market in German & Spanish, which they learnt phonetically, rather than have local actors over dubbing.

    Can't see many doing that today.

    The bar in the Royal Marine in Dun Laoghaire is called 'Hardy's' after their stay there in the 50s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    "He" by Irish author John Connolly. An "imagined" but very factual biography of Stan Laurel.
    Excellent book for any fans of the duo. Reveals a lot of the nasty side of Hollywood and Stan's complicated private life.
    Don't be put off by the IT's less than complimentary review. (I found the book in the library btw.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    "He" by Irish author John Connolly. An "imagined" but very factual biography of Stan Laurel.
    Excellent book for any fans of the duo. Reveals a lot of the nasty side of Hollywood and Stan's complicated private life.
    Don't be put off by the IT's less than complimentary review. (I found the book in the library btw.)

    I'm reading 'He' at the moment and was lucky to get tickets to the screening of Stan and Ollie in the Lighthouse cinema tonight where John Connolly will be interviewing the stars of the film.

    I'm really enjoying the book. It's a big departure from his detective novels but I think he's a good enough writer to be successful at most types of fiction that he tries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    I'm reading 'He' at the moment and was lucky to get tickets to the screening of Stan and Ollie in the Lighthouse cinema tonight where John Connolly will be interviewing the stars of the film.

    Which screening is this? There are tickets available for both screenings tonight.

    Will it be live in the theatre or by video link or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Which screening is this? There are tickets available for both screenings tonight.

    It's on at 6:30. I only got tickets as I was on twitter when the Lighthouse tweeted tickets were on sale. I think it sold out very quickly. They're going to be present at the screening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,313 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    I saw it this evening, and I thought it was brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    Loved it. The performances were spot on. A very likable film about the pair's fading years. Kind of bittersweet but with a big heart to it.

    Also free bowler hats for the audience at the Lighthouse preview screening!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    I'm reading 'He' at the moment and was lucky to get tickets to the screening of Stan and Ollie in the Lighthouse cinema tonight where John Connolly will be interviewing the stars of the film.

    I'm really enjoying the book. It's a big departure from his detective novels but I think he's a good enough writer to be successful at most types of fiction that he tries.

    Wow! That's a coup for the Lighthouse. Connollly's knowledge of the pair is extensive. Should make for an interesting interview. Lucky you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,019 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Seen it a few days back and loved it.

    I think both John C and Steve's performances deserve an accolade or two.

    I think John might get an Oscar nomination for best actor


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John and Steve both great- John more-so than Steve simply because I still see Steve as Alan Partridge so hard to get that image out of my head, but in fairness to him he too plays a great Stan.

    Go see it. Won't be disappointed.

    How much of this was bang on the money I wonder? I knew they toured England after their hay-day but didn't know it was lowly theatres for the most part- was it spurious/poor promoters or was it lack of publicity/awareness which goes back to the theme of spurious/poor promoters? Must look it up online to see what wiki says.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Total Spoiler alert- don't look before seeing the film.
    A note on the Cobh/Ireland appearance here: very touching:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_and_Hardy
    On September 9, 1953, their boat arrived in Cobh in the Republic of Ireland. Laurel recounted their reception:

    The love and affection we found that day at Cobh was simply unbelievable. There were hundreds of boats blowing whistles and mobs and mobs of people screaming on the docks. We just couldn't understand what it was all about. And then something happened that I can never forget. All the church bells in Cobh started to ring out our theme song "Dance of the Cuckoos" and Babe (Oliver Hardy) looked at me and we cried. I'll never forget that day. Never.[87]


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  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Here's a bit more on that from Irish Examiner- again as a spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the film


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    Brilliant film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭apieceofcake


    Really enjoyed this. It was fantastic and heartrending too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭mrsdewinter


    Loved it. It's not strong on plot but it has a big heart. Great performances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    Saw this last night, it was a nice film with some good performances from the pair, and the actress playing Stan's wife was good for a laugh in it too. The chemistry is really there between Coogan and Reilly which added to the film's charm.

    Disappointingly was one of those cases where the trailer really did show too much of the more emotional moments, which took away from my enjoyment. I wanted to get hit right in the feels but it didn't happen since there was nothing new on that front for me to see. You could tell me to avoid trailers, but this one couldn't be avoided when watching anything in Cineworld before it came out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    great movie...

    ...but what about the glaring error.."thats another nice mess you gotten me into"

    surely it should have been...thats another Fine mess you gotten me into" ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    fryup wrote: »
    great movie...

    ...but what about the glaring error.."thats another nice mess you gotten me into"

    surely it should have been...thats another Fine mess you gotten me into" ??

    Actually that's not an error, the line 'another fine mess' was never spoken by Hardy in the films, though there was a film called 'Another Fine Mess'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,931 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    fryup wrote: »
    great movie...

    ...but what about the glaring error.."thats another nice mess you gotten me into"

    surely it should have been...thats another Fine mess you gotten me into" ??

    Nope, the phrase as quoted in the movie is correct. Even in the 1930 short, "Another Fine Mess" Ollie says "Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into." In Chickens Come Home from 1931 Ollie begins by saying, "Well.. and Stan finishes, "Here's another nice mess I got you into."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Looks like its doing well, went to get tickets for 8.30 showing in Lighthouse on Saturday and was sold out. Going this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Speedsie wrote: »
    Actually that's not an error, the line 'another fine mess' was never spoken by Hardy in the films, though there was a film called 'Another Fine Mess'.

    i stand corrected, i could have sworn it was ..."another fine mess" he said in all the movies

    (must be getting dementia)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    I saw it last night and the prosthetics really stood out for me.No matter how closely I stared I couldn't even see a hint where it was joined. I thought that was amazing.

    I liked the film, it was a bit melancholy but a nice gentle watch for a Sunday evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    fryup wrote: »
    i stand corrected, i could have sworn it was ..."another fine mess" he said in all the movies

    (must be getting dementia)

    It's like, "Beam me up, Scotty." It entered the wider culture slightly incorrectly and stuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭mrsdewinter


    Speedsie wrote: »
    Actually that's not an error, the line 'another fine mess' was never spoken by Hardy in the films, though there was a film called 'Another Fine Mess'.

    I noticed that line in Stan & Ollie and myself thought it was an error... Thanks for that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Saw this the other day. It was.....grand. TBH I was expecting a bit more. Don't get me wrong, it was a perfectly pleasant film and easily watchable, but there wasn't really a whole lot going on.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Saw this the other day. It was.....grand. TBH I was expecting a bit more. Don't get me wrong, it was a perfectly pleasant film and easily watchable, but there wasn't really a whole lot going on.

    What generation are you? It was pointed out on radio by a commentator the other week that the film will probably be appreciated more by those who were raised on this type of comedy as kids.

    I know in the 70s and early 80s they were always on TV so if you weren’t around then or didn’t really watch their movies, I can appreciate where you’re coming from. I loved the film but I also loved L&H as a kid.


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