Skoda Superb 2017 or 2016

jod1983

Hi all,
Thinking of upgrading my 08 Passat to a superb in the near future. Budget is around 19-20k.
Been looking online and for that budget i can get a 2016 SE Business with approx 20000 - 35000 miles or a 2017 SE 30000-50000 miles.
Both are from Skoda main dealers and have a full service history and 12 months or manufacturers warranty.
The 2017 model is from a company called Trans City in London. From talking to their salesman, the cars are from Stansted Airport and were formerly hire cars or taxis which were looked after by them. They sell on avg 6 a week and alot go to Ireland.
I would like a 2017 for the younger age but would anyone see a problem with the mileage on a young car. Is the service history and warranty enough to give peace of mind?


Thanks

Stallingrad

Personally I wouldn't touch a former taxi with 50,000 miles after 1 year. To put it in perspective I bought a 1 year old Superb SE 14tsi, 15,000 miles in the UK, was €22 after VRT. Not much benefit to a 2017 over a 2016 either, I would seek out a lower mileage 2016 and save a bit on purchase price and VRT.

jod1983

Stallingrad wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't touch a former taxi with 50,000 miles after 1 year. To put it in perspective I bought a 1 year old Superb SE 14tsi, 15,000 miles in the UK, was €22 after VRT. Not much benefit to a 2017 over a 2016 either, I would seek out a lower mileage 2016 and save a bit on purchase price and VRT.

Thanks for you input, kinda of agree with you. Much check the difference in VRT.
Hows your machine on petrol? Doing low enough mileage myself during the week and maybe 150 miles at the weekend. Throw in 3 round trips from Cork to Donegal yearly and thats its.

Stallingrad

It is very economical. We have the DSG (really get this is you can) and it is returning 6.2l/100km. For your kind of mileage you really should go petrol. The engine is super refined, inaudible at idle, is very quick when hustled and makes the diesel feel like a tractor by comparison. I think it is the best family petrol engine out there.

jod1983

Stallingrad wrote: »

It is very economical. We have the DSG (really get this is you can) and it is returning 6.2l/100km. For your kind of mileage you really should go petrol. The engine is super refined, inaudible at idle, is very quick when hustled and makes the diesel feel like a tractor by comparison. I think it is the best family petrol engine out there.

Have been looking to go the DSG way alright, driven a Passat with one and its so smooth.
Have had diesel ever and the thought of going to 45 MPG with a petrol is scary. Then again, will you ever get high 50's with a diesel if its doing small mileage.

Stallingrad

No DPF, DMF or EGR issues with petrol, economy not far off diesel, more refined and diesel values uncertain. Sounds like a no brainer to me!

jod1983

Stallingrad wrote: »

No DPF, DMF or EGR issues with petrol, economy not far off diesel, more refined and diesel values uncertain. Sounds like a no brainer to me!

In fairness, your right. Had a corolla a long time ago. 1.4 petrol, 190k and only ever had a sensor problem.


Now, im off to find a petrol one to test drive.
Thanks again

Stallingrad

Good luck. I bought without having driven one, rest assured, you won't be disappointed.

cpoh1

Have driven the 1.4 petrol in the passat and tiguan and personally think it is underpowered. Like all small cc turbo/combo engines they need to be driven hard and kept well in boost to get going. Frustrating when you are doing a lot of stop start driving from 1-3 gear.
If you are doing lots of short journeys the petrol may be the way to go, i would personally plump for the 2L.

Stallingrad

cpoh1 wrote: »

Have driven the 1.4 petrol in the passat and tiguan and personally think it is underpowered. Like all small cc turbo/combo engines they need to be driven hard and kept well in boost to get going. Frustrating when you are doing a lot of stop start driving from 1-3 gear.
If you are doing lots of short journeys the petrol may be the way to go, i would personally plump for the 2L.

You may be thinking of the 125bhp which is found in most VW's. The Superb is 150bhp ACT, and is in no way underpowered.

morritty

cpoh1 wrote: »

Have driven the 1.4 petrol in the passat and tiguan and personally think it is underpowered. Like all small cc turbo/combo engines they need to be driven hard and kept well in boost to get going. Frustrating when you are doing a lot of stop start driving from 1-3 gear.
If you are doing lots of short journeys the petrol may be the way to go, i would personally plump for the 2L.

I find my 125 perfectly adequate for city driving, and defiantly not underpowered at all.

colm_mcm

jod1983 wrote: »

In fairness, your right. Had a corolla a long time ago. 1.4 petrol, 190k and only ever had a sensor problem.


Now, im off to find a petrol one to test drive.
Thanks again

But of a difference between a TSI DSG and a 1.4 Corolla in terms of complexity and maintenance.

Heres Johnny

jod1983 wrote: »

Stallingrad wrote: »

It is very economical. We have the DSG (really get this is you can) and it is returning 6.2l/100km. For your kind of mileage you really should go petrol. The engine is super refined, inaudible at idle, is very quick when hustled and makes the diesel feel like a tractor by comparison. I think it is the best family petrol engine out there.

Have been looking to go the DSG way alright, driven a Passat with one and its so smooth.
Have had diesel ever and the thought of going to 45 MPG with a petrol is scary. Then again, will you ever get high 50's with a diesel if its doing small mileage.

With your low mileage, say if it's even 12k miles a year, 45mpg will use 266 gallons a year. 60 mpg will use 200 gallons

A gallon is about 6 to 7 euro so fuel cost difference will be about 400 euro a year with the 15mpg diffeeence. I don't think petrol will get 45 or diesel 60 though but there may be a 15 mpg gap, not sure.

Casati

Heres Johnny wrote: »

With your low mileage, say if it's even 12k miles a year, 45mpg will use 266 gallons a year. 60 mpg will use 200 gallons

A gallon is about 6 to 7 euro so fuel cost difference will be about 400 euro a year with the 15mpg diffeeence. I don't think petrol will get 45 or diesel 60 though but there may be a 15 mpg gap, not sure.

That’s a good estimate of the delta between the two, I have a 2.0 Superb and I won’t ever see 60mpg unless I drive at 80kmph on a nice road

It’s a really bad idea buying an ex taxi in general, the factory warranty is likely to be affected for one. Sounds like the 1.4 is a good option for you

cpoh1

morritty wrote: »

cpoh1 wrote: »

Have driven the 1.4 petrol in the passat and tiguan and personally think it is underpowered. Like all small cc turbo/combo engines they need to be driven hard and kept well in boost to get going. Frustrating when you are doing a lot of stop start driving from 1-3 gear.
If you are doing lots of short journeys the petrol may be the way to go, i would personally plump for the 2L.

I find my 125 perfectly adequate for city driving, and defiantly not underpowered at all.

Horses for courses, all depends on what your expectations are and where your driving background is coming from. I find the 1.4 tsi (its 150bhp in the tiguan) to be peaky and in city driving very cumbersome on/off boost going up and down the gears. It might have a adequate peak bhp figure but its all about how its delivered.

morritty

cpoh1 wrote: »

Horses for courses, all depends on what your expectations are and where your driving background is coming from. I find the 1.4 tsi (its 150bhp in the tiguan) to be peaky and in city driving very cumbersome on/off boost going up and down the gears. It might have a adequate peak bhp figure but its all about how its delivered.

Exactly, i find mind hit boost quite quickly. small bit of turbo lag. but also im not used to high powered cars. But for me, in something like a Superb. Its not underpowered at all. But then, a Superb isnt a race car, it's a comfy boat.