NCT - does car need to be taxed?

spoke2cun · 04-09-2018 11:20am #1

Does a car have to be taxed to undergo an NCT?

B-D-P-- · 04-09-2018 11:22am

nope,
However some insurance companies require tax and NCT for their insurance to be valid.
Just to note that when driving to the center.

Del2005 · 04-09-2018 10:41pm

spoke2cun wrote: »

Does a car have to be taxed to undergo an NCT?

Unless you've a trailer or have it SORN then getting it to the NCT without tax will be an issue.

bazz26 · 04-09-2018 11:30pm

My understanding is that the car doesn't need to be taxed if it is being driven to and from the NCT centre to be tested. You would obviously need to provide evidence of this via the booking appointment if stopped by AGS.

Del2005 · 04-09-2018 11:45pm

bazz26 wrote: »

My understanding is that the car doesn't need to be taxed if it is being driven to and from the NCT centre to be tested. You would obviously need to provide evidence of this via the booking appointment if stopped by AGS.

You can only go to and from the centre if it's declared off the road. If it's out of tax you can't.

Isambard · 05-09-2018 12:25am

Del2005 wrote: »

You can only go to and from the centre if it's declared off the road. If it's out of tax you can't.

correct but it's SORD not SORN of course.

05-09-2018 6:59am

Del2005 wrote: »

Unless you've a trailer or have it SORN then getting it to the NCT without tax will be an issue.

why ?
do untaxed cars not work?

68 lost souls · 05-09-2018 7:15am

BrownFinger wrote: »

why ?
do untaxed cars not work?

No but a state body cannot be seen to allow a driver to be blatantly breaking the law

cml387 · 05-09-2018 9:18am

68 lost souls wrote: »

No but a state body cannot be seen to allow a driver to be blatantly breaking the law

So they won't NCT an untaxed car?

I beg to differ.

ELM327 · 05-09-2018 9:20am

68 lost souls wrote: »

No but a state body cannot be seen to allow a driver to be blatantly breaking the law

I've NCT'd a car 4 years out of tax.

Thatnastyboy · 05-09-2018 9:23am

Can be tested without insurance or tax, they dont care how you got it there, they only care if you go to drive off with a fail dangerous sticker on it.

NCT ain't a state body neither.

Drive her on, it would only be an extra salty garda that would fine you on the way to or from the test with proof

Heres Johnny · 05-09-2018 9:25am

BrownFinger wrote: »

why ?
do untaxed cars not work?

I can 100% confirm they do work! Out by a long time and they still work

I also believe cars without insurance will still start and move just fine too, but I havent tried it, this one may be an urban myth

K.Flyer · 05-09-2018 9:26am

spoke2cun wrote: »

Does a car have to be taxed to undergo an NCT?

No, there is no requirements for the car to have a current tax for it to be tested at the centre.
If you have no tax on the car, and depending on how long it is expired and whether it has been declared off the road or not, will be an issue between you and a Garda should you be stopped while driving it on the way to or from the test centre.

galwaytt · 05-09-2018 12:41pm

We really need to sticky this at this stage:

1 - You can drive a car that is on the SORD system, to or from the NCT centre (obviously untaxed) - from the Department's own website, on motortax.ie Q15:

"A15. A vehicle may be used during the period of a non-use declaration in two cases:

to bring it to and from a test centre for the test; or
to bring it for repair after a re-test, or back to where you are keeping it while it is off the road after the repairs. This option may only be used where an appointment has already been made for a re-test.
The same rules apply to roadworthiness testing for commercial vehicles.
If you are bringing the vehicle to a test centre or to or from repairs after a test failure, it would be advisable to carry a copy of the appointment for the test or re-test with you."

https://www.motarviews.ie/ORD/faq

As soon as I get the formal answer to the OTHER to/from NCT centre question, I'll post that for sticky as well.............

MikeHammer70 · 05-09-2018 12:44pm

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

Can be tested without insurance or tax, they dont care how you got it there, they only care if you go to drive off with a fail dangerous sticker on it.

NCT ain't a state body neither.

Drive her on, it would only be an extra salty garda that would fine you on the way to or from the test with proof

What happens if you drive off with the fail dangerous sticker?

Does the car veer into a wall?

GM228 · 05-09-2018 1:36pm

MikeHammer70 wrote: »

What happens if you drive off with the fail dangerous sticker?

Does the car veer into a wall?

If it's dangerous you never know, but you leave your self open to a charge of driving a dangerously defective vehicle.

Also some people have been known to actually drive around and fail to take down the dangerous sticker which is just asking for trouble and just inviting the Gardaí to stop you.

Thatnastyboy · 05-09-2018 1:38pm

MikeHammer70 wrote: »

What happens if you drive off with the fail dangerous sticker?

Does the car veer into a wall?

It could do, but that would depend on what way the driver points it I spose

The NCT staff may call the gardaí as the fail dangerous vehicle is driven off, whether they do or don't call them or whether the gardaí subsequently do anything about it is a different story.

GM228 · 05-09-2018 1:39pm

Isambard wrote: »

correct but it's SORD not SORN of course.

There's no such thing as a SORD - in the UK it is a SORN and here it's a SNUD.

GM228 · 05-09-2018 1:40pm

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

It could do, but that would depend on what way the driver points it I spose

The NCT staff may call the gardaí as the fail dangerous vehicle is driven off, whether they do or don't call them or whether the gardaí subsequently do anything about it is a different story.

Gardaí will stop any vehicle with the sticker on it and have done several times.

MikeHammer70 · 05-09-2018 1:41pm

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

The NCT staff may call the gardaí as the fail dangerous vehicle is driven off, whether they do or don't call them or whether the gardaí subsequently do anything about it is a different story.

They don't call the gardai

GM228 · 05-09-2018 1:46pm

MikeHammer70 wrote: »

They don't call the gardai

It's a legal requirement that NCT staff advise of a fail dangerous to the customer and warn them not to drive the vehicle as such is an offence, if the customer does drive the vehicle it is a requirement under their contract of employment for the NCT staff to report it to the Gardaí and I personally know of at least one occasion where this has happened.

Thatnastyboy · 05-09-2018 1:49pm

MikeHammer70 wrote: »

They don't call the gardai

They could do, so I said they 'may'

As in it's within their rights to,

As in: they may or may not.

To say they don't is not true

Del2005 · 06-09-2018 1:31pm

cml387 wrote: »

So they won't NCT an untaxed car?

I beg to differ.

The OPs question was does the car need to be taxed for the NCT. To legally get to the NCT it needs to be taxed and if it has no tax it needs to be trailered or declared off the road.

Isambard · 08-09-2018 1:48pm

taxed or SORDd . However once it gets there, they won't have any interest in whether it's taxed or not.

Del2005 · 08-09-2018 2:21pm

Isambard wrote: »

taxed or SORDd . However once it gets there, they won't have any interest in whether it's taxed or not.

Getting there is the issue if it's not taxed.

Isambard · 08-09-2018 4:58pm

Indeed but it isn't an issue for the NCT, they'll still test it.

CiniO · 08-09-2018 5:22pm

GM228 wrote: »

Gardaill stop any vehicle with the sticker on it and have done several times.

But they still have to check if vehicle is really dangerously defective before they can take any action? Or they don't and sticker is enough?

I'm thinking of a situation where dangerous fault was fixed on the spot by the owner before driving off, f.e. completely bald tyre caused NCT to fail dangerous and put a sticker, but owner changed a wheel for spare one and drove off.
With spare wheel car is not dangerously defective anymore, so can gardai prosecute/seize the vehicle for driving with the "fail dangerous" sticker only, or do they actually have to find on their own that vehicle is dangerously defective ?

GM228 · 08-09-2018 6:39pm

CiniO wrote: »

But they still have to check if vehicle is really dangerously defective before they can take any action? Or they don't and sticker is enough?

I'm thinking of a situation where dangerous fault was fixed on the spot by the owner before driving off, f.e. completely bald tyre caused NCT to fail dangerous and put a sticker, but owner changed a wheel for spare one and drove off.
With spare wheel car is not dangerously defective anymore, so can gardai prosecute/seize the vehicle for driving with the "fail dangerous" sticker only, or do they actually have to find on their own that vehicle is dangerously defective ?

They only need to have a suspicion in order to stop and can arrest you based on that suspicion., the sticker is enough to raise the suspicion.

NCT - does car need to be taxed?

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