No more Mondeo...

Mini850

.....well maybe.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/mondeo/103341/ford-mondeo-s-future-in-doubt-as-fusion-is-axed-in-us

I thought they sold like hotcakes, at least over in Europe, but in the US to, having been over there a good few times in the last few years and seeing them quite a bit.

biko

Quite click-baity title there..

Ford Mondeo’s future in doubt as Fusion is axed in US

The long-term future of the Ford Mondeo looks increasingly uncertain after the automotive giant announced plans to drop the popular model's sister vehicle - the Fusion - in the United States, and focus on pick-ups and SUVs in that region instead.

Mini850

biko wrote: »

Quite click-baity title there..

Happy to change it to something less click-baity

OldMrBrennan83

There's piles of them on the road here and the UK. Why would they stop selling it?

JoeA3

Not sure about Europe, but in the U.S. they're definitely dropping it, as well as the Focus. Ford USA only sells trucks / large SUV's now.

listermint

JoeA3 wrote: »

Not sure about Europe, but in the U.S. they're definitely dropping it, as well as the Focus. Ford USA only sells trucks / large SUV's now.

but i see them everywhere over there ?

JoeA3

listermint wrote: »

but i see them everywhere over there ?

I think the Fusion was big on the rental market. But anyway, you won't be seeing any new ones over there from now on.

GustavoFring

Heard something on the radio this morning they only sold 50-odd thousand in Europe last year. In it's heyday they were selling 130k a year in the UK alone.

Gregor Samsa

GustavoFring wrote: »

Heard something on the radio this morning they only sold 50-odd thousand in Europe last year. In it's heyday they were selling 130k a year in the UK alone.

http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/ford/ford-mondeo/

56,173 in 2017, down from a height of 322,716 twenty years ago.

begbysback

It all started to go downhill when they stopped calling it a Granada

ongarite

The large saloon car bar the Germans luxury brands is in big decline in Europe.
Not unexpected for Ford IMO.

Will Mazda invest big money for small sales of Mazda 6 in Europe. Honda left the market years ago.

The other thread on here today on SUV, crossover's shows the hatred the traditionalist has for them but the paying consumer loves them.

zilog_jones

begbysback wrote: »

It all started to go downhill when they stopped calling it a Granada

The Scorpio replaced the Granada, and that was axed 20 years ago (as that segment was pretty much dead by then).

Mondeo replaced the Sierra.

begbysback

Seen a Granada in Liffey valley yesterday, beautiful car they are, 80's 2.8i ghia so top of the range I believe - they're actually not as big as I remember them, though I was smaller at the time

Esel

begbysback wrote: »

Seen a Granada in Liffey valley yesterday, beautiful car they are, 80's 2.8i ghia so top of the range I believe - they're actually not as big as I remember them, though I was smaller at the time

And the cops were bigger...

Oafley Jones

Patww79 wrote: »

There's piles of them on the road here and the UK. Why would they stop selling it?

It’s because of tariffs.

Del2005

Patww79 wrote: »

There's piles of them on the road here and the UK. Why would they stop selling it?

How many new ones have they sold? Don't forget that the Mondeo man was replaced by the BMW man who is now the SUV man. Cars aren't popular anymore and they make more profit on SUV's so the car will go.

But it looks like it is a none storey anyway

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-03/ford-says-it-plans-to-upgrade-mondeo-family-car-not-kill-it?srnd=premium-europe

creedp

Del2005 wrote: »

How many new ones have they sold? Don't forget that the Mondeo man was replaced by the BMW man who is now the SUV man. Cars aren't popular anymore and they make more profit on SUV's so the car will go.

But it looks like it is a none storey anyway

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-03/ford-says-it-plans-to-upgrade-mondeo-family-car-not-kill-it?srnd=premium-europe

Given that SUV's / crossovers must be more expensive to produce than the equivalent saloon / estate and the SUV / crossover generates a higher profit margin and are more expensive to run people are obviously valuing the advantages of this category of car rather highly given the price premium they are prepared to pay for them.

ba_barabus

creedp wrote: »

Given that SUV's / crossovers must be more expensive to produce

They're not. Car makers have been open about this from the start. They can sell them at a higher profit margin and make more money.

creedp

ba_barabus wrote: »

They're not. Car makers have been open about this from the start. They can sell them at a higher profit margin and make more money.

I would have thought the raw material costs must be higher given that SUVs / crossovers are larger than their equivalent car model? Profit margins are higher because people are currently overawed by the style/practicality of the vehicle class so are prepared to be less price conscious about them that they are for the more traditional car models. The power of marketing!

Cordell

The crossover Kuga costs a bit more than the platform equivalent Focus, but sells close to Mondeo price, so that's the reason.

ba_barabus

creedp wrote: »

I would have thought the raw material costs must be higher given that SUVs / crossovers are larger than their equivalent car model?

There is very little in it really if you think about it. Sheet metal, plastics and slightly raised ride. When buying bulk to build millions of the things (if it's successful) it's a very tiny cost.

demanufactured

Pity , I love my 08 zetec.
I will be upgrading to a newer one next year...hopefully a titanium with all the bells and whistles.

Irish Kings

Cordell wrote: »

The crossover Kuga costs a bit more than the platform equivalent Focus, but sells close to Mondeo price, so that's the reason.

I know, I don't get people . . .all the space of the focus, for the price of a mondeo, and the handling and comfort of neither.

vectra

Mini850 wrote: »

.....well maybe.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/mondeo/103341/ford-mondeo-s-future-in-doubt-as-fusion-is-axed-in-us

I thought they sold like hotcakes, at least over in Europe, but in the US to, having been over there a good few times in the last few years and seeing them quite a bit.

Ford apparently denied this.

Ford said: “We currently have our strongest-ever vehicle range in Europe. While we regularly evaluate our future product plans based on customer preferences and trends, there are no changes at this time. Mondeo remains a core part of our product line-up in Europe. We have upgrades coming for Mondeo later this year, which will see new powertrains as well as exterior and interior updates as well as enhancements to the Mondeo Hybrid range.

FROM HERE

begbysback wrote: »

It all started to go downhill when they stopped calling it a Granada

zilog_jones wrote: »

The Scorpio replaced the Granada, and that was axed 20 years ago (as that segment was pretty much dead by then).

Mondeo replaced the Sierra.

And the Sierra replaced the Cortina

demanufactured wrote: »

Pity , I love my 08 zetec.
I will be upgrading to a newer one next year...hopefully a titanium with all the bells and whistles.

There could be a nice well cared for , small miles ST Line one available next year

Harry Palmr

The Mondeo is as big as a Granada.

vectra

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Mondeo is as big as a Granada.

It is now in Mk5 era.
Doesn't feel it to drive though.

Irish Kings

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Mondeo is as big as a Granada.

The fiesta is as big as an escort.

The focus is as big as a sierra.

Some wives arses are now as big as their ma's ?

vectra

Irish Kings wrote: »

Some wives arses are now as big as their ma's ?

:pac::pac::pac:

Philb76

Think they are a very nice car to look at and drive like most Ford's quality a bit dodgy they used to be the darling of company car drivers especially in the late 90s and early 2000s but the boom lead to German premium stuff and the Mondeo got sneered at

demanufactured

Philb76 wrote: »

Think they are a very nice car to look at and drive like most Ford's quality a bit dodgy they used to be the darling of company car drivers especially in the late 90s and early 2000s but the boom lead to German premium stuff and the Mondeo got sneered at

What?

Irish Kings

demanufactured wrote: »

What?

I think he's on about the last model ford escort or something ?

demanufactured

Irish Kings wrote: »

I think he's on about the last model ford escort or something ?

I have no idea....

Esel

Mondeos are sooo last century!

Irish Kings

Esel wrote: »

Mondeos are sooo last century!

you could easily say that about any model name that's been re-used.

Joeseph Balls

demanufactured wrote: »

Pity , I love my 08 zetec.
I will be upgrading to a newer one next year...hopefully a titanium with all the bells and whistles.

Ya may as well go for titanium x sport
175bhp, all the bells, I love mine. Serviced on time, no trouble.

Philb76

demanufactured wrote: »

Philb76 wrote: »

Think they are a very nice car to look at and drive like most Ford's quality a bit dodgy they used to be the darling of company car drivers especially in the late 90s and early 2000s but the boom lead to German premium stuff and the Mondeo got sneered at

What?

Its quite a simple point really

demanufactured

Philb76 wrote: »

Its quite a simple point really

It's more of a sentence ....I think.

begbysback

Esel wrote: »

And the cops were bigger...

They were!!

That reminds me, where I grew up not many people could afford such cars as the Granada, my memories of Granada 2.8i ghias, escort rs2000, capris and xr2 fiestas come from the older lads stealing them - fords were targeted back then as apparently a key off one pretty much opened and started all the others

Philb76

demanufactured wrote: »

Philb76 wrote: »

Its quite a simple point really

It's more of a sentence ....I think.

Its more of a paragraph i think
No more Mondeo the thread title must be dropping it cos they are selling s**t loads of them

loyatemu

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The Mondeo is as big as a Granada.

on the outside maybe - you could fit 6 or 7 kids on the backseat of a Granada.

vectra

loyatemu wrote: »

on the outside maybe - you could fit 6 or 7 kids on the backseat of a Granada.

I had 2 Granadas in my time.
Mk5 Mondeo is a much roomier car inside.

creedp

loyatemu wrote: »

on the outside maybe - you could fit 6 or 7 kids on the backseat of a Granada.

In that era you could fit 6 in the back of a VW Beetle!

veetwin

Kids were smaller then.ðŸ˜

vectra

creedp wrote: »

In that era you could fit 6 in the back of a VW Beetle!

My father in law used to fit
2 adults
8 kids
and 2 dogs in a mk1 escort estate :pac: