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PSV to private

  • 31-08-2018 5:47pm
    #1
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭


    I'm taking my fathers car from him as he is buying a new one.

    His car is registered/taxed as a hackney.

    Do I need to do anything bar send of the log book?

    Thanks


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  • #2
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    It changes to private on change of ownership AFAIK.


  • #3
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    Do we have to pay the difference in road tax?


  • #4
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The tax isn’t valid if it’s not registered as a PSV. They don’t look for the disc back so...


  • #5
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    So leave it and when its up for tax again it will be private tax?


  • #6
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    If you are changing it to private then the taxi disc won't be valid.
    You need to hand it over with the log book and buy private motor tax .
    AGS look dimly on cars that have a fraudulent tax disc.
    If you do it at the MTO they can give you a new disk at the desk. Will get the log book in a few days. You could post it to the MTO as well.


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  • #7
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    So we have to fork out 200e for a tax disc when we take it over even though there's tax on it?


  • #8
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    khaldrogo wrote: »
    So we have to fork out 200e for a tax disc when we take it over even though there's tax on it?

    Correct.
    The current tax is for a taxi. You will not be a taxi.


  • #9
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Ben Careful Sitcom wrote: »
    If you are changing it to private then the taxi disc won't be valid.
    You need to hand it over with the log book and buy private motor tax .
    AGS look dimly on cars that have a fraudulent tax disc.
    If you do it at the MTO they can give you a new disk at the desk. Will get the log book in a few days. You could post it to the MTO as well.

    Are you saying the OP can’t just do a change of ownership by post then?


  • #10
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are you saying the OP can’t just do a change of ownership by post then?

    You need to read the last line of my post for your answer:)
    Post it to the MTO. Its generally faster.


  • #11
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Ben Careful Sitcom wrote: »
    You need to read the last line of my post for your answer:)
    Post it to the MTO. Its generally faster.

    But there’s nothing stopping the OP sending it to Shannon, and they won’t ask for the disc back. Right/Wrong?


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  • #12
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    But there’s nothing stopping the OP sending it to Shannon, and they won’t ask for the disc back. Right/Wrong?

    Nothing stopping him sending it to Shannon but the local MTO is dealing with smaller quantities of post and generally quicker.
    They'll also call you if you've given a mobile should there be a query instead of just rejecting it and posting it back to you.


  • #13
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    It changes to private on change of ownership AFAIK.
    Can confirm, having bought an extaxi, it does not.


    I received the log book in my name and the taxation class is down as taxi.
    The car is gone into storage now so I havent bothered changing the class yet but I believe you have to change the car to your name, get the book, then complete a different form to change the taxation class.


    FYI - the tax is still valid until you change the taxation class on the book so I wouldnt bother doing the changeover until the existing disc is nearly out!


  • #14
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    ELM327 wrote:
    FYI - the tax is still valid until you change the taxation class on the book so I wouldnt bother doing the changeover until the existing disc is nearly out!


    Will it not automatically change when the tax is up and I buy new tax?


  • #15
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    khaldrogo wrote: »
    Will it not automatically change when the tax is up and I buy new tax?
    No.
    And you will not be able to buy new tax without completing the form.
    You cannot tax a car with taxation class as taxi without a PSV license, and you cannot tax a car as private unless the correct taxation class is listed on the VLC




    TLDR you need to fill out form RF111 before taxing the car as private. You *may* be able to do both at the same time by going to your local tax office.


  • #16
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    Is the VLC the 2 page document with the name and address on with the vehicle spec on that you send off to change ownership?


  • #17
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    Unless I wasn't clear or it makes a difference, I will be doing a change of ownership


  • #18
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    khaldrogo wrote: »
    Is the VLC the 2 page document with the name and address on with the vehicle spec on that you send off to change ownership?
    Yes
    khaldrogo wrote: »
    Unless I wasn't clear or it makes a difference, I will be doing a change of ownership
    Doesnt make a difference, you need to do the taxation class change anyway, it's a separate process to changing owner


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