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Ban appeal

  • 27-08-2018 6:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭


    Quin_Dub banned me from the politics forum for "inciting hatred".

    It was not my intention to incite any hatred.


    I would like to appeal this ban.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Hi. The first step in the process is to attempt to resolve the ban directly with the mod. Can you let me know if you have tried to do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    dudara wrote: »
    Hi. The first step in the process is to attempt to resolve the ban directly with the mod. Can you let me know if you have tried to do this?


    Yes I pmed the mod.

    They told me to start a thread here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Thanks for confirming. I’ll inform the CMods.

    In the meantime, you can post the PM conversation here, or alternatively, share it with the CMod.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I'll take a look OP.



    Please forward the pm's and the link to the thread/ posts in question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Here is the original PM Quin_Dub sent me.


    Dear Dr Brown,

    You have been permanently banned from Politics for a breach of the forum charter.

    Every forum on Boards.ie has a charter which lists any specific rules that forum may have and it is really important that you read this as it'll help you familiarise yourself with how that forum works. You should also understand that every forum is different and that charters are how you learn the differences.

    Please see the Boards.ie FAQ for more details.

    If you wish to appeal this ban you can see details on how to do so [URL="http:////www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=335"]here[/URL].

    Quin_Dub

    Moderator Note

    We're done here.. This isn't the place you.. utterly unacceptable


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Here's a link to the thread that got me banned.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057898167


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Thanks for that.

    I've read the thread and your post that the permanent ban was based on.

    Can you explain the grounds you want to appeal on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Neyite wrote: »
    Thanks for that.

    I've read the thread and your post that the permanent ban was based on.

    Can you explain the grounds you want to appeal on?


    I would like to appeal the ban because it was not my intention to incite any hatred.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    There were two reasons given by the mod for your permanent ban, the first one being racism which you oddly forgot to mention in your DRP. This is the pm that you received:
    Originally Posted by Quin_Dub
    Have a read of the charter and see if you can work it out for yourself.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...p?t=2057553361

    But just in case you can't

    Boards.ie General Rules

    The following are prohibited under Boards.ie general standing rules.

    1. Advertising
    2. Racism
    3. Porn
    4. Copyrighted Material
    Or if you prefer , this bit..

    Please note that any post deemed to incite hatred or promote violence will be dealt with in the strictest possible manner.
    This isn't up for negotiation , if you wish to challenge the ban , please feel free to use the Dispute resolution process.


    Your post was racist.

    You said you didn't have a problem with laws that make mixed race marriage illegal and you yourself said that anyone who advocates for those views these days would be viewed as a white supremacist.



    I'm upholding the ban.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Neyite wrote: »
    There were two reasons given by the mod for your permanent ban, the first one being racism which you oddly forgot to mention in your DRP. This is the pm that you received:




    Your post was racist.

    You said you didn't have a problem with laws that make mixed race marriage illegal and you yourself said that anyone who advocates for those views these days would be viewed as a white supremacist.



    I'm upholding the ban.


    How is it racist ? there are many Black and Asian people that share similar views on mixed marriages etc.

    Also Israel has laws against mixed marriages are they also racist too ?

    Racism is when you hate another race.

    I don't see how laws that protect real diversity could be racist.


    If we go down that road we might as well say that the founders of the United States were racist.


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  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    If you want to appeal it with an admin then you are entitled to request it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Neyite wrote: »
    If you want to appeal it with an admin then you are entitled to request it here.


    Yes I would like to appeal to the admin because I was not even aware I was causing any offense and was banned without any warning.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I have taken a look at this

    Firstly the question of "racism". A quick search of the internet reveals numerous definitions of the term, but they are all consistent. The basically indicate racism is a belief in the superiority of one race over another which can result in prejudice or discrimination - for example Wikipedia on the subject

    From your post
    Laws against mixed marriages actually protect people and preserve real diversity.

    But in todays PC culture anyone who advocates for such laws would automatically be called a "white supremacist". Even though most US presidents down through history would of have had a similar view point.

    Yes laws against mixed marriage are racist, and you are advocating racism. I note a similar undertone in a number of threads to which you have contributed and would warn you that if you continue to promote racist policy your time on this site will be short

    Ban upheld


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Beasty wrote: »
    I have taken a look at this



    WFirstly the question of "racism". A quick search of the internet reveals numerous definitions of the term, but they are all consistent. The basically indicate racism is a belief in the superiority of one race over another which can result in prejudice or discrimination - for example Wikipedia on the subject

    From your post


    Yes laws against mixed marriage are racist, and you are advocating racism. I note a similar undertone in a number of threads to which you have contributed and would warn you that if you continue to promote racist policy your time on this site will be short

    Ban upheld


    Well I never said I believe any race to be "superior". I just believe that every people should have the right to self determination including white people.

    "Racist" is not a word I would use to describe my self.


    These days anyone who calls from Immigration control is labeled "racist".


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    You were advocating policies that are racist. That in itself is racist

    I'm closing this now, and marking resolved


This discussion has been closed.
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