John Gilligan arrested

WanderlustIre

John Gilligan arrested with 23k on his person last night in Belfast airport.

Remanded in custody. Good to see he is still doing well. Scumbag.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Do these guys ever retire?

Imagine being still up to no good at his age.

WanderlustIre

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do these guys ever retire?

Imagine being still up to no good at his age.

23k just flying off to Spain while im in busting my balls trying to run a company and still hardly getting by.

Lux23

WanderlustIre wrote: »

23k just flying off to Spain while im in busting my balls trying to run a company and still hardly getting by.

At least you have a face.

ARNOLD J RIMMER

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do these guys ever retire?

Imagine being still up to no good at his age.

Im not defending John Gilligan but:

- If he wanted a job who would hire him?

- If he setup a legit business, Who would do business with him?

WanderlustIre

Lux23 wrote: »

At least you have a face.

What?

freshpopcorn

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2018/0824/987279-john-gilligan/

WanderlustIre

ARNOLD J RIMMER wrote: »

Im not defending John Gilligan but:

- If he wanted a job who would hire him?

- If he setup a legit business, Who would do business with him?

-Should of thought about that before selling drugs, Robbing and assaulting (Convicted of all) and Allegedly ordering the murder of an innocent woman.

-Enough do business with Martin Foley in his business.

Aisling(",)

Would not have thought he'd be stupid enough to carry cash himself.
Surely the authorities would be looking at him!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Didn't the Dublin gangsters run him out of the city when he got out of prison.

I wonder who he works with now, some crowd in England?

thebull85

Hes been floating around Clondalkin for the past year without a care in the world.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Aisling(",) wrote: »

Would not have thought he'd be stupid enough to carry cash himself.
Surely the authorities would be looking at him!

I'd say brains were never his forte.

He comes across as a right yobbo in those Paul Williams books.


The likes of John Traynor was a much shrewder operator.

WanderlustIre

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Didn't the Dublin gangsters run him out of the city when he got out of prison.

I wonder who he works with now, some crowd in England?

I don't even care who he works with anymore this man is vermin. He is a cancer on society, and I say that with someone who has members of his family in prison for similar activities. To me it is unforgivable. The very fact he could get as far as Belfast with that kind of money is due to marvellous work from our guardians.

emeldc

WanderlustIre wrote: »

-Should of thought about that before selling drugs, Robbing and assaulting (Convicted of all) and Allegedly ordering the murder of an innocent woman.

-Enough do business with Martin Foley in his business.

I could be totally wrong but I find it difficult to imagine ordinary decent business folk getting in touch with the likes of Foley for debt collection.

Are Am Eye

ARNOLD J RIMMER wrote: »

Im not defending John Gilligan but:

- If he wanted a job who would hire him?

- If he setup a legit business, Who would do business with him?

False beard, glasses, wig. Change his name to Trevor.

realdanbreen

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'd say brains were never his forte.

He comes across as a right yobbo in those Paul Williams books.


The likes of John Traynor was a much shrewder operator.

Still he became a millionaire while Traynor had to skidaddle out of town.

ARNOLD J RIMMER

WanderlustIre wrote: »

-Should of thought about that before selling drugs, Robbing and assaulting (Convicted of all) and Allegedly ordering the murder of an innocent woman.

-Enough do business with Martin Foley in his business.

While your logic is hindsight.

What should he do NOW when it would be impossible to go legit.

I'm not surprised he's gone down this direction again as I dont see his Legit options available to him.

con___manx1

emeldc wrote: »

I could be totally wrong but I find it difficult to imagine ordinary decent business folk getting in touch with the likes of Foley for debt collection.

I know a guy who was threatened by members of that foley dept collection. He had a handgun pointed at him and wasst long before he paid up after that : )
If it was alot of money id say you be surprised who would hire them to get their cash back

DEFTLEFTHAND

ARNOLD J RIMMER wrote: »

While your logic is hindsight.

What should he do NOW when it would be impossible to go legit.

I'm not surprised he's gone down this direction again as I dont see his Legit options available to him.

Can he not live off an old age pension.

BattleCorp

Genuine question. Is it a crime to bring €23k of cash out of the country?

Under His Eye

Yes, if you fail to declare it.

Yer Da sells Avon

Arrested? It's always the ones you least expect.

BattleCorp

Under His Eye wrote: »

Yes, if you fail to declare it.

Is there not free movement of goods and services within the EU?

mloc123

BattleCorp wrote: »

Genuine question. Is it a crime to bring €23k of cash out of the country?

Yup. I think 10k is the limit.

realdanbreen

con___manx1 wrote: »

I know a guy who was threatened by members of that foley dept collection. He had a handgun pointed at him and wasst long before he paid up after that : )
If it was alot of money id say you be surprised who would hire them to get their cash back

In my experience these guys are also used when the amount is relatively small. If a guy owes you 3 or 4k and won't pay what can you do? It would be 2-3 years before you get him to court and even then he will probably be allowed pay it off at 50 a week or whatever.

valoren

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do these guys ever retire?

Imagine being still up to no good at his age.

...there's always one last job.

Aisling(",)

BattleCorp wrote: »

Genuine question. Is it a crime to bring €23k of cash out of the country?

Nah.You can carry as much cash as you like within the EU.If you're bringing over 10,000 out of the EU you're supposed to declare but if its legitimate money that you can show the source of you'd be fine.

He probably has it seized as proceeds of crime

ARNOLD J RIMMER

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Can he not live off an old age pension.

I have no idea

BattleCorp

Gilligan was flying from the North to Spain. Both are inside the EU so therefore there was no need to declare the €23,000. Am I correct in thinking this?

Trigger Happy

BattleCorp wrote: »

Is there not free movement of goods and services within the EU?

Yes but different tax regimes. I believe the 10k limit is to do with tax avoidance. ie making cash in one jurisdiction and taking it to another.

MrStuffins

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Yes but different tax regimes. I believe the 10k limit is to do with tax avoidance. ie making cash in one jurisdiction and taking it to another.

It's pronounced "Avoision"

ohnonotgmail

BattleCorp wrote: »

Gilligan was flying from the North to Spain. Both are inside the EU so therefore there was no need to declare the €23,000. Am I correct in thinking this?

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Yes but different tax regimes. I believe the 10k limit is to do with tax avoidance. ie making cash in one jurisdiction and taking it to another.

there is no limit on bringing cash between 2 eu countries and no requirement to declare. Gilligan was arrested for money laundering.

BattleCorp

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

there is no limit on bringing cash between 2 eu countries and no requirement to declare. Gilligan was arrested for money laundering.

So how is money laundering defined?

Can he claim that the money is his from savings? Winnings on a horse? A donation from Paddy the Plasterer?

Does he have to prove that the money was gained from legal activities or do the authorities have to prove that the money was gained from illegal activities?

Spanish Eyes

10k is the limit in cash. Anything over that within the EU you either declare it, or the cash sniffing dogs will detect it and you are arrested. If you cannot provide backup info the default position is money laundering.

But in fairness Customs use intelligence and targeting. They know, and then set the dogs on them!

Good to see our friends in the North (while they are still in the EU) are on the ball. I am sure there is co-operation between Ireland and NI/UK on criminal activity.

What will happen post Brexit?

The little squirt is a total idiot. But I suppose all that will happen is that the cash will be confiscated, and back down the M1 he goes.

Muahahaha

From Citizens Information

Travelling to Ireland from countries outside the EU
Cash controls

Since 15 June 2007 if you are entering or leaving the European Union and carrying €10,000 or more cash you must make a declaration to the Customs authority of the member state you are entering or leaving. Under Regulation (EC) 1889/2005 you must lodge the declaration at the airport, seaport or land frontier through which you are entering the EU – see “How to apply” below. If you are travelling to or from the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man you also must make a declaration.

Cash includes:
Currency in the form of banknotes or coins
Bank drafts, cheques or money orders in bearer form, endorsed without restriction or with payee’s name omitted.

ohnonotgmail

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

10k is the limit in cash. Anything over that within the EU you either declare it, or the cash sniffing dogs will detect it and you are arrested. If you cannot provide backup info the default position is money laundering.

But in fairness Customs use intelligence and targeting. They know, and then set the dogs on them!

Good to see our friends in the North (while they are still in the EU) are on the ball. I am sure there is co-operation between Ireland and NI/UK on criminal activity.

What will happen post Brexit?

The little squirt is a total idiot. But I suppose all that will happen is that the cash will be confiscated, and back down the M1 he goes.

that limit only applies to people travelling outside the EU.



https://transferwise.com/gb/blog/taking-cash-in-or-out-of-the-uk

ohnonotgmail

BattleCorp wrote: »

So how is money laundering defined?

Can he claim that the money is his from savings? Winnings on a horse? A donation from Paddy the Plasterer?

Does he have to prove that the money was gained from legal activities or do the authorities have to prove that the money was gained from illegal activities?

if the money was from his savings then he will have a bank slip to verify this. he cant just he won it on a horse. they will want to know what horse and what bookie and confirm his info. he is caught by the bollix.

Muahahaha

BattleCorp wrote: »

Gilligan was flying from the North to Spain. Both are inside the EU so therefore there was no need to declare the €23,000. Am I correct in thinking this?

Thats what I would have thought but the NI Customs obviously have a different take on it. Unless he was going to Lanzarote (or similar) which is in the EU but outside of the Customs Union.

BattleCorp wrote: »

Does he have to prove that the money was gained from legal activities or do the authorities have to prove that the money was gained from illegal activities?

When dealing with Customs & Exise you are pretty much guilty until you can prove yourself innocent so it is up to him to prove that the money is legit, if he cant it is confiscated.

Spanish Eyes

Cash amount should be reduced to say 3k.

Doesn't matter, mutual co-operation/intelligence sharing means Customs know who to target.

I'd be having a conniption that someone would knock me on the head and rob my cash anyway. So that's a no from me, if I had that kind of money in the first place!

Cash in such large amounts is rarely kosher anyway.

I know some will come back and say I am buying a car/caravan etc. and they will not accept an IBAN payment. Well why now?

Anyway glad the little man was caught. Doubt there will be a prison sentence for him, but if he was carrying the cash for someone else...... well then.

Spanish Eyes

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that limit only applies to people travelling outside the EU.



https://transferwise.com/gb/blog/taking-cash-in-or-out-of-the-uk

But if you cannot account for it if stopped and questioned?

Seems odd that cigarette and alcohol movements are subject to scrutiny as in "is it all for your own use? well prove it" to the person importing 50,000 cigarettes from Spain or X litres of wine from France in their van.

r93kaey5p2izun

Delighted for him, the smug little scumbag. Sick of looking at his disgusting fat arse swaggering around.

the purple tin

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Cash amount should be reduced to say 3k.

Doesn't matter, mutual co-operation/intelligence sharing means Customs know who to target.

I'd be having a conniption that someone would knock me on the head and rob my cash anyway. So that's a no from me, if I had that kind of money in the first place!

Cash in such large amounts is rarely kosher anyway.

I know some will come back and say I am buying a car/caravan etc. and they will not accept an IBAN payment. Well why now?

Anyway glad the little man was caught. Doubt there will be a prison sentence for him, but if he was carrying the cash for someone else...... well then.

I doubt it, you would have to be daft to hire a midget villain as well known as him to courier large sums of money around. I hope it was his cash and he got stung rotten.

boombang

There was a Polish man caught with a sum just over 20k recently too. In that case I thought "that's stupid, can't you take 10k with you with no questions asked?". Why risk trouble by taking it in one go; just take two Ryanair flights?

Hope this guy is back behind bars soon.

Spanish Eyes

the purple tin wrote: »

I doubt it, you would have to be daft to hire a midget villain as well known as him to courier large sums of money around. I hope it was his cash and he got stung rotten.

Sorry I LOL'd at the midget villain well known to everyone on this Island

Anyway, if it was his money, I wonder how he got it.

I hope the CAB have taken everything off that family, they are just totally off the wall. Remember the daughter had a pub in Spain called "the Judges Chambers" Jayzis that was some reference to another crim. They have necks like jockey's blx all the same.

Still I doubt he will be jailed. Unless those who arrested him have more info on the source of the cash.

Spanish Eyes

I suppose he will get FLA anyway. Sigh.

Hitman3000

Amazed he hasn't contracted a lethal dose of lead poisoning by now.

Under His Eye

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Amazed he hasn't contracted a lethal dose of lead poisoning by now.

Username is apt.

WanderlustIre

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Amazed he hasn't contracted a lethal dose of lead poisoning by now.

Bit of luck he's hit with an automatic no need for the lead poison.

mynamejeff

ARNOLD J RIMMER wrote: »

While your logic is hindsight.

What should he do NOW when it would be impossible to go legit.

I'm not surprised he's gone down this direction again as I dont see his Legit options available to him.

with the scale of his crimes he should still be in jail or dead , but its not a fair world is it

Star Bingo

WanderlustIre wrote: »

Bit of luck he's hit with an automatic no need for the lead poison.

And why not he was poisoning us with shìt hash for years

rafatoni

Aisling(",) wrote: »

Would not have thought he'd be stupid enough to carry cash himself.
Surely the authorities would be looking at him!

I wonder was he a decoy to maybe someone who was carrying more. Dont think auld factory john is that stupid