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Written Examiner payment 2018

  • 20-08-2018 12:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31


    Hi all,
    Has anyone received payment yet? If so, what subject and when did you send in your forms?
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    Email financial@examinations.ie with your pps and they'll tell you where your claim is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭sitstill


    Lol I was a superintendent and am still waiting to be paid so good luck getting paid for the examining!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Payment is usually 30 working days from receipt of claim form. So given that the earliest corrections start mid June and finish mid July, I wouldn't expect any payments to be made until early September at best. My forms were only sent in two weeks ago, I'm not expecting to see any money until October realistically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pandoraj09


    They're processing the written examiners' money at the moment. They emailed me with a query yesterday saying they were processing the claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Did anyone correct Maths? If so would they mind sharing what they received? Just so I can tell myself that I was right all along!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pandoraj09


    Payment for correcting arrived into my account this morning!!! Happy days!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    What subject/ level?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pandoraj09


    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    pandoraj09 wrote: »
    Payment for correcting arrived into my account this morning!!! Happy days!!!

    Or rather when did you submit your claim form roughly?

    *checks bank balance, no change*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    Just checked online banking now and still not there. I posted everything financial to my senior examiner as required on 19 July, the day I finished correcting (LC AL). The senior examiner is meant to then send the details of all examiners under them into the SEC together. Rang the SEC in early August and they said they only received it from the senior examiner on 2 August. Two weeks later. Why such a delay?

    As above, I was also told they hoped to pay everybody within 30 working days (of 2 August). 5 days x 6 weeks = 30 days. Having to wait up to 8 weeks/almost two months for payment for work for the SEC is not right. Looking at their considerable difficulties recruiting examiners this summer, they cannot afford to treat examiners like this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭doc_17


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    Just checked online banking now and still not there. I posted everything financial to my senior examiner as required on 19 July, the day I finished correcting (LC AL). The senior examiner is meant to then send the details of all examiners under them into the SEC together. Rang the SEC in early August and they said they only received it from the senior examiner on 2 August. Two weeks later. Why such a delay?

    As above, I was also told they hoped to pay everybody within 30 working days (of 2 August). 5 days x 6 weeks = 30 days. Having to wait up to 8 weeks/almost two months for payment for work for the SEC is not right. Looking at their considerable difficulties recruiting examiners this summer, they cannot afford to treat examiners like this.

    Maybe not everyone was as prompt as yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    Just checked online banking now and still not there. I posted everything financial to my senior examiner as required on 19 July, the day I finished correcting (LC AL). The senior examiner is meant to then send the details of all examiners under them into the SEC together. Rang the SEC in early August and they said they only received it from the senior examiner on 2 August. Two weeks later. Why such a delay?

    As above, I was also told they hoped to pay everybody within 30 working days (of 2 August). 5 days x 6 weeks = 30 days. Having to wait up to 8 weeks/almost two months for payment for work for the SEC is not right. Looking at their considerable difficulties recruiting examiners this summer, they cannot afford to treat examiners like this.

    It’s pointless counting from July 19. You know perfectly well the sec were not going to get it on that date. Some examiners as said in the post above may not have been as prompt as you. Your adviser isn’t going to send paperwork off until they get paperwork from everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    It’s pointless counting from July 19. You know perfectly well the sec were not going to get it on that date. Some examiners as said in the post above may not have been as prompt as you. Your adviser isn’t going to send paperwork off until they get paperwork from everyone.

    Then it would surely be fairer for the examiner to send their financial things directly to the SEC, and allow people who are less prompt in sending it to have a less prompt payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    Then it would surely be fairer for the examiner to send their financial things directly to the SEC, and allow people who are less prompt in sending it to have a less prompt payment.

    It doesn’t mean there would be prompt payment and you are only taking a couple of days at most. You sent your paperwork to your adviser on the 19th so they probably got it on the 20th. That was a Friday. Allowing for a few days delay for late posting let’s assume they got everything by Tuesday 23rd and were able to post everything to their chief the same day. Chief gets forms on 24th. They are also getting forms from other advisers. Might also be a delay here. They are not just posting claim forms to the sec, there is also other paperwork. So check all the other paperwork and wait until all of it comes in from all advisers. Post everything on 31st July/1st August. Sec receive the lot on the 2nd. It’s quite a reasonable timeline.


    There is probably someone in the SEC who has been assigned to process all the claim forms for a particular subject. They can do them in a batch if they come in as a batch and sign off on that subject effectively. As you are required to send them to your adviser it guarantees that they come in quickly. Under the old system examiners sent them in themselves. I presume they were sorted by subject when that happened. It also meant that for accounting purposes Sec were often paying people in the next financial year for work completed the previous year as they were so slow at sending them in.

    I was only talking to a friend recently who did practical examination work for the SEC this year. The requirement to send the form to the adviser doesn’t exist here for some reason. She only sent in her claim form three months after completing the work. If the SEC know when forms are likely to come in the work can be spread out accordingly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭pandoraj09


    We used to send the forms off ourselves to the SEC. Then this new rule came in about sending them to your AE to get signed off. One year in October I still hadn't been paid and the SEC told me my AE had not sent in any of his group's payment forms. This year I sent everything off to my AE on Tuesday July 23rd. Really surprised to be paid so early. Looked at my payslip that arrived today and the amount taken out is just horrendous. With the USC not being taken off from next year, I'll be up 700 Euro. Hope everyone else gets paid soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Also, Advising Examiners send theirs in complete batches to the Chief Advising Examiner. It only takes one lax examiner, AE or CAE for the forms to be well delayed in being submitted together.

    Time was I was paid in November for summer corrections so I'll be quite happy as long as I get before end of September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    I got an email from the SEC today asking me about something on my claim form and then another email about 2 minutes later from the same person saying to disregard the query, and they were processing my form. I only sent it to my AE around the august bank holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 helenl711


    I finished up around the 18/19 July, no payment yet. I remember for about four years, up until last year actually, no money landed in my account until the third week in October. Couldn't believe it last year when payment arrived the first week of September!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    I reckon, no matter what they say about processing dates, that they do the bigger subjects first. My pament is traditionally a lot later than my friend who does LC Maths, even though we always finish up well before them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    helenl711 wrote: »
    I finished up around the 18/19 July, no payment yet. I remember for about four years, up until last year actually, no money landed in my account until the third week in October. Couldn't believe it last year when payment arrived the first week of September!

    SEC lost staff during the recession and the freeze on hiring in the public sector. I didn't get paid until November one year. Things are quite efficient the last two years or so, and I'd imagine some streamlining has been done internally. If my claim was being processed today I would expect to get paid next week. That's a five week turnaround.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Any JC correctors get paid yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    Email financial@examinations.ie with your pps number and they tell will tell you how far along your payment is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Seannew1


    Got paid yesterday; got taxed to the hills :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    Got paid yesterday; got taxed to the hills :(

    What level was that if you don't mind me asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Seannew1


    cestmoi2 wrote: »
    What level was that if you don't mind me asking?

    LC OL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    LC OL
    Thank you! Waiting on JC here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Seannew1


    cestmoi2 wrote: »
    Thank you! Waiting on JC here

    Best of luck with the pay cheque! Hope you aren't taxed as badly as I was!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Seannew1 wrote: »
    Best of luck with the pay cheque! Hope you aren't taxed as badly as I was!!
    Bracing myself! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    That happened me last year Sean. Even though I had the tax arranged with revenue.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I'm really not expecting this til the end of the month, even though an LC friend of mine who finished a week after me has been paid. I think they do the LC first and then the JC.

    I was paid super-quick for examining JC practical work back in June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 MuireannNiSh


    cestmoi2 wrote: »
    Any JC correctors get paid yet?

    Got paid on Friday, about a week earlier than I was expecting! My subject was JC OL Spanish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Rang today and was told they couldn't give me a rough estimate. The wait continues so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭thegreatescape


    Got paid today but found the amount to be shockingly low. I'm an NQT and had no job in the previous year so shouldn't have been taxed heavily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    Got paid today but found the amount to be shockingly low. I'm an NQT and had no job in the previous year so shouldn't have been taxed heavily.

    Everyone is taxed at the highest rate of tax unfortunately but it can be claimed back via Revenue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Got paid today but found the amount to be shockingly low. I'm an NQT and had no job in the previous year so shouldn't have been taxed heavily.

    Which subject?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭thegreatescape


    cestmoi2 wrote: »
    Which subject?

    Home Economics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    What date did you finish up correcting junior Home Ec ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭thegreatescape


    Postgrad10 wrote: »
    What date did you finish up correcting junior Home Ec ?

    24th July I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    I've a bit to go then. Over the 30 days though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Got paid on Friday. Would say the SEC received the forms approximately a month earlier at best. Delighted to see it so early.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 cestmoi2


    Paid today.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Paid today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭kala85


    cestmoi2 wrote: »
    Which subject?

    How much.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    kala85 wrote: »
    How much.

    How much would depend on the subject, level, number of papers and people's own tax arrangements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    Just received my payslip today and I paid quite a substantial sum into a 'pension related deduction'. Did we always pay this? Where does the money go? I understood that work done for SEC was sort off 'independent work' like a plumber, electrician, builder etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Just received my payslip today and I paid quite a substantial sum into a 'pension related deduction'. Did we always pay this? Where does the money go? I understood that work done for SEC was sort off 'independent work' like a plumber, electrician, builder etc.


    Yes since the pension levy came in we have paid it. Anyone who works for the public sector has to pay the levy even if they are not entitled to a pension from it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭kala85


    Yes since the pension levy came in we have paid it. Anyone who works for the public sector has to pay the levy even if they are not entitled to a pension from it

    The ironic thing is, it doesn't even go into your pension


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    kala85 wrote: »
    The ironic thing is, it doesn't even go into your pension

    Yes that's the thing - where does it go??? Into the pensions pot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I think there was one year where the SEC were trying to say that their markers weren't employees but independent contractors. If markers were independent contractors then I'd assume they wouldn't be stuck for the pension levy.
    Is that correct?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Was the extra 20%(?) for taking extra papers not across the board?

    We didn't get it in my subject. It was never going to be a fortune anyway, but it annoys me to think we were conned.


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