Upstairs roof extension on party wall

gk5000

Hello,
Not sure if this is the right forum, but looking at a house and the neighbors have extended the roof out at the back of a dormer - and have build up/on the party wall to do this - upstairs. There is probably no other way.
From the outside you can see plastic cladding, but not sure if it is block or wooden studs under - and fear it could be the latter.

We also would wish to extend, so I guess would just use the new party wall - if it is wall, but how would you do if it was only studs - would not want that between the houses - and would be difficult to rebuild the party wall in block without messing their side. Any ideas?

Gumbo

gk5000 wrote: »

Hello,
Not sure if this is the right forum, but looking at a house and the neighbors have extended the roof out at the back of a dormer - and have build up/on the party wall to do this - upstairs. There is probably no other way.
From the outside you can see plastic cladding, but not sure if it is block or wooden studs under - and fear it could be the latter.

We also would wish to extend, so I guess would just use the new party wall - if it is wall, but how would you do if it was only studs - would not want that between the houses - and would be difficult to rebuild the party wall in block without messing their side. Any ideas?

Expose the area and get your engineer To advise on site.

gk5000

kceire wrote: »

Expose the area and get your engineer To advise on site.

Ahh should have been clearer - looking at buying/biding on the house so wondering best way to proceed.

My feeling is if its wood then run away as that would involve changes in the neighbors side also - so messy at minimum.

Gumbo

gk5000 wrote: »

Ahh should have been clearer - looking at buying/biding on the house so wondering best way to proceed.

My feeling is if its wood then run away as that would involve changes in the neighbors side also - so messy at minimum.

Post a photo?

gk5000

On the left is the house I'm interested in with the regular slopping roof, whereas in the one on the right, the roof has been extended out to allow new bedrooms in the previous roof space. I would need to do the same - but would have to use the existing party wall?.

Not sure if its clear in the photo, but that is like a plastic cladding on the extension on the right.

Gumbo

Did they get planning for that?
It’s possibke to do, but you’d have to also get planning then strip back their finish to see what the structure is like and try continue the extension onto your property keeping building lines and roof lines.

It will need The go ahead from your neighbor as would they have originally
So hopefully no problems there.

gk5000

kceire wrote: »

Did they get planning for that?
It’s possibke to do, but you’d have to also get planning then strip back their finish to see what the structure is like and try continue the extension onto your property keeping building lines and roof lines.

It will need The go ahead from your neighbor as would they have originally
So hopefully no problems there.

It's on the back so not so bad, and many other of these houses have it - but not using the plastic cladding. Seem to have got planning but don't have the details.
The real questions are

- how do know what is there before you buy?
- if it is wood then building up the wall would probably need work on the neighbors side also - which would be tricky to deal with

Gumbo

gk5000 wrote: »

It's on the back so not so bad, and many other of these houses have it - but not using the plastic cladding. Seem to have got planning but don't have the details.
The real questions are

- how do know what is there before you buy?
- if it is wood then building up the wall would probably need work on the neighbors side also - which would be tricky to deal with

Ask the neighbor how it was built. Tell them
Out straight you are thinking of buying and you like the idea of what they have done. They will be your neighbors if you buy dj good to start talking to them and get off on the right foot.

If it’s wood then there will be fire safety provisions required to go in possibly. You won’t know until it’s opened up by your builder with input from your engineer. Plans and budget for the worst, hope for the best.

gk5000

kceire wrote: »

Ask the neighbor how it was built. Tell them
Out straight you are thinking of buying and you like the idea of what they have done. They will be your neighbors if you buy dj good to start talking to them and get off on the right foot.

If it’s wood then there will be fire safety provisions required to go in possibly. You won’t know until it’s opened up by your builder with input from your engineer. Plans and budget for the worst, hope for the best.

Assuming its wood - there would be fire provisions, but what about noise etc.?

I don't think I's be happy without a block on the flat.

gk5000

kceire wrote: »

Ask the neighbor how it was built. Tell them
Out straight you are thinking of buying and you like the idea of what they have done. They will be your neighbors if you buy dj good to start talking to them and get off on the right foot.

If it’s wood then there will be fire safety provisions required to go in possibly. You won’t know until it’s opened up by your builder with input from your engineer. Plans and budget for the worst, hope for the best.

Thanks. Yes, assuming its wood - there would be fire provisions, but what about noise etc.?

I don't think I'd be happy without a block on the flat - and I don't know how to do that without affecting the neighbours.