Speed gun at M7

masterboy123

So while driving on M7, I noticed a member of Gardai holding out a speed gun from his Garda car.
I saw my speed at the time and it was 124 kmph.

Do they usually send fine via post? They didn't stop/follow me there.

Jack Moore

masterboy123 wrote: »

So while driving on M7, I noticed a member of Gardai holding out a speed gun from his Garda car.
I saw my speed at the time and it was 124 kmph.

Do they usually send fine via post? They didn't stop/follow me there.

You mean 124 in a 120? You are getting no fine .

duffman13

masterboy123 wrote: »

So while driving on M7, I noticed a member of Gardai holding out a speed gun from his Garda car.
I saw my speed at the time and it was 124 kmph.

Do they usually send fine via post? They didn't stop/follow me there.

On the 60kmh stretch or the 120kmh stretch. If 120 you'll be fine and won't get a fine

myshirt

You'll be grand. There's a bit of leeway, and he likely clocked you well before you looked at how far you were going.

Richmond Ultra

masterboy123 wrote: »

So while driving on M7, I noticed a member of Gardai holding out a speed gun from his Garda car.
I saw my speed at the time and it was 124 kmph.

Do they usually send fine via post? They didn't stop/follow me there.

Your speed showing on the dial is often ahead of the real speed owing to the way they are built. You were probably at 119/120. Take it a warning and watch the speed but I wouldn't be worried about getting a letter in the post.

CeilingFly

A garda would have to stop you.

On a motorway they tend not to bother with speeds under 140kmh unless they are having a bad day.

AndrewJRenko

CeilingFly wrote: »

A garda would have to stop you.

Why?

CeilingFly

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Why?

Can you explain that????


Or are you as usual just trolling

High bike

He's right they have to stop u, I got that from a Garda

bazz26

Those hand held speed guns are not the same as speed cameras. The speed gun measures your speed using a laser but doesn't have the ability to take a photo like a go safe camera van for example. If they didn't pull you over then you won't be issued a fine and points.

Jack Moore

duffman13 wrote: »

On the 60kmh stretch or the 120kmh stretch. If 120 you'll be fine and won't get a fine

Hi Duffman.

Jack Moore

CeilingFly wrote: »

A garda would have to stop you.

On a motorway they tend not to bother with speeds under 140kmh unless they are having a bad day.

Or playing “snooker.”

masterboy123

It was a 120kmph region. Many drivers slowed down to 90 kmph or so after seeing Garda.

Thanks all

duffman13 wrote: »

On the 60kmh stretch or the 120kmh stretch. If 120 you'll be fine and won't get a fine

FishOnABike

masterboy123 wrote: »

It was a 120kmph region. Many drivers slowed down to 90 kmph or so after seeing Garda.

Thanks all

This annoys the hell out of me. Idiots who drop anchor when they see a speed check are a liability on the roads. If there's any volume of traffic they are liable to cause a ripple effect.

AndrewJRenko

CeilingFly wrote: »

Can you explain that????


Or are you as usual just trolling

I thought that the one-word question is fairly self-explanatory. I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it.


My question is 'why would they have to stop you to issue a fine?'


Are you seriously saying that once you can get away from the Gardai, you can't be fined?

Idleater

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Are you seriously saying that once you can get away from the Gardai, you can't be fined?

In this particular instance, as in when using the speed gun "hairdryer" the offender has to be shown the reading from the device.

dingding

masterboy123 wrote: »

It was a 120kmph region. Many drivers slowed down to 90 kmph or so after seeing Garda.

Thanks all

I had a white D reg vectra in the 90's for a couple of years and I had more near misses when drivers slowed down when I was coming up from behind.

DaveyDave

FishOnABike wrote: »

This annoys the hell out of me. Idiots who drop anchor when they see a speed check are a liability on the roads. If there's any volume of traffic they are liable to cause a ripple effect.

Even worse when they drop the anchor for seeing someone pulled over. Cue the Toyota who was driving in the passing lane and was originally doing 80 dropping to about 60, the van in front of me dropping to 65 and staying that speed.


As if the Garda is going to drop what they're doing, get in the car and floor it to catch up to you for doing the speed limit :rolleyes:

sdanseo

masterboy123 wrote: »

So while driving on M7, I noticed a member of Gardai holding out a speed gun from his Garda car.
I saw my speed at the time and it was 124 kmph.

Do they usually send fine via post? They didn't stop/follow me there.

Unless it was a van you're safe as houses. Even if not, at 124 indicated you're probably only doing 118 or 119.

I set cruise control on the motorway to 125km/h since according to GPS that's 120 on the button. 103km/h on the N7. Have gone past multiple vans in each case and not a bother.

AndrewJRenko

Idleater wrote: »

In this particular instance, as in when using the speed gun "hairdryer" the offender has to be shown the reading from the device.

Do you have a source for this please? It just seems bizarre that the system would incentivise you to further break the law and speed the hell away from there without any penalty.

sdanseo

Idleater wrote: »

In this particular instance, as in when using the speed gun "hairdryer" the offender has to be shown the reading from the device.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Do you have a source for this please? It just seems bizarre that the system would incentivise you to further break the law and speed the hell away from there without any penalty.

You are entitled to ask to be shown the reading, it doesn't have to be shown as a matter of course, and the law doesn't say that the request must be honoured.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2006/act/23/section/17/enacted/en/html#sec17

(8) In proceedings for an offence referred to in subsection (1) it shall be presumed, until the contrary is shown, that—

(a) the electronic or other apparatus used for the tendering of evidence was provided and maintained by a member of the Garda Síochána or by a person authorised under subsection (7), and

(b) that the development, production and viewing of records produced by such apparatus was carried out by a member of the Garda Síochána or by a person authorised under subsection (7).”.

In fact, the 2002 Act specifically says that the device doesn't have to be proven to be calibrated, be of any approved type, or actually be shown to work correctly at all. Backwards laws.

Speeding away will just get you arrested for failing to stop and obstructing a Garda.

masterboy123

That's helpful.

Many thanks

sdanseo wrote: »

Unless it was a van you're safe as houses. Even if not, at 124 indicated you're probably only doing 118 or 119.

I set cruise control on the motorway to 125km/h since according to GPS that's 120 on the button. 103km/h on the N7. Have gone past multiple vans in each case and not a bother.

CeilingFly

dingding wrote: »

I had a white D reg vectra in the 90's for a couple of years and I had more near misses when drivers slowed down when I was coming up from behind.

I'll raise you I had a white maxima. There were five in the country. Four were unmarked (and very well known) garda cars.
Yeah, I abused my power. Even gardai got out of my way.

GustavoGaviria

Currently rocking the same colour/model as the Garda Unmarked Pursuit car. General public don't pass any heed, but Bikers do. Drastically drop their speed before creeping past an looking in to suss out car and driver.

On the issue of the speed gun. The reading on the gun has to be presented to the driver as chain of evidence. They show you the reading you were detected doing and fine/court follows. They have a tripod-camera but that looks like something a Civil Engineer uses, large and bulky and rarely used. Bridge under Finglas is only place I've seen it last 10 years.

AndrewJRenko

GustavoGaviria wrote: »

On the issue of the speed gun. The reading on the gun has to be presented to the driver as chain of evidence.

Where do you get this from?

tuxy

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Where do you get this from?

Well there's this from the Garda website
https://www.garda.ie/en/FAQs/?id=4853

How can I be detected speeding and what happens if I am?

There are 2 ways you can be detected speeding, through Intercept Detection and Non Intercept Detection. An intercept detection occurs when a Garda stops an offender at the time of the offence. A Garda can input the details of the offence into a handheld computer or write details of the offence onto a Fixed Charge Notice. A non-intercept detection occurs where there is no Garda intervention at the scene of the offence. Non-intercept offences are recorded by:

Fixed and mobile speed cameras
Video recording equipment e.g. Mobile Speed Detection Vehicles
Handheld computers or Notepads as a result of an allegation made via Traffic Watch (Tel No. 1890 205805)

So they use 3 different methods of non-intercept detection and none of the 3 use the handheld laser detector.