Is Ireland, to put it frankly, a kip?

Gunner Jay

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

verycool

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

justshane

Is it just me or is there a new one of these threads everyday I log on?

Shenshen

Lots of room to improve, but show me any country that doesn't have that.

Overall, it's a good place to live. Limited amount of natural disasters, comparatively safe, generally friendly populace, and you're never too far from a decent cup of tea.

jaxxx

The entire planet's a kip not just Ireland.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

You really need to try harder.

WesternZulu

Ireland is ranked as having one of the best quality of living in the world coupled with high average salaries.

If that qualifies as a kip then I'd love to see the alternative.

Wheeliebin30

justshane wrote: »

Is it just me or is there a new one of these threads everyday I log on?

I’m actually thinking there is some political party deliberately targeting forums each day with this stuff.


There is a political party who advocate an aggressive online push through social media etc.

relax carry on

For the love of God there's a whole World Wide Web out there. Go find a topic that hasn't been done to death to troll with.

Atoms for Peace

Total **** hole, I'm upping sticks and moving to Haiti.

verycool

Itzel Whining Knight wrote: »

You really need to try harder.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

justshane wrote: »

Is it just me or is there a new one of these threads everyday I log on?

And the same OP?

BorneTobyWilde

For a tiny little country they sure as hell can't figure out waste and recycling and another simply thing like car tax. It's not complicated for countries 5 times the size, geez.
A car is a car
Every car 300 to tax
Build an incinerator and power the grid
Well that was easy now wasn't it , ffs

Sleeper12

Gunner Jay wrote:

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

I'll have our mess of a health service any day over Americas. With a little patience we'll most likely be a united Ireland

Gunner Jay wrote:

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

Ireland as said already has plenty of room to improve but I'm happy with my part of Ireland. I can't imagine living anywhere else in the world tbh

touts

Yes it is.

But talk to anyone who grew up in one of the socialist paradises that were set up after World War 2 and you'll find it it isn't too bad.

Or talk to anyone who lived in the real facist dictatorships of the 20th century and you'll find things aren't too bad.

We live in a kip where a lot of things could be done better. But remember anyone who sells you a fast solution where someone else is to blame for all that is wrong in your life or someone else will pay for everything you want in life is lying to you for their own personal gain.

SCOOP 64

Shenshen wrote: »

Lots of room to improve, but show me any country that doesn't have that.

Overall, it's a good place to live. Limited amount of natural disasters, comparatively safe, generally friendly populace, and you're never too far from a decent cup of tea.

This persuaded me to the NO vote.

Star Bingo

That’s my tank, private. She’s a good tank

HappyAsLarE

Maybe you should travel around your country before calling it a kip. Some of the most amazing places I have ever been to: Donegal, Galway, Antrim, Kerry.

Wilberto

It's all relative.

Thoughtform

Does Ireland, to put it frankly, have quite a vocal group of sheltered people with no perspective who like to pretend it's way worse than it is?

What inequalities are there? Considerable tax is paid and there are plenty of social supports (which I'm glad there are). After that though, unless you are disabled, elderly, sick, laid off, you need to take responsibility for yourself also.

Improvements needed definitely - there's a lack of confidence (but I think that's changing apart from the whiners who will always try to drag everyone else into their mire of misery) - but a kip... yeah it's really not.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Gunner Jay wrote: »

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

The problem isnt that people are happy or unhappy about these things, the problem in that people tolerate them.

gozunda

It's a kip. But it's our kip ...

2018 style

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I’m actually thinking there is some political party deliberately targeting forums each day with this stuff.


There is a political party who advocate an aggressive online push through social media etc.

Leo's spin unit at it again?

mickoneill31

No, Ireland isn't a kip. We do, however have some world class whingers that try to drag everything down. They might be only about 5% of the population but they're about 50% of the online community.

Thoughtform

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The problem isnt that people are happy or unhappy about these things, the problem in that people tolerate them.

The non stop complaining would seem to indicate otherwise.

Although it is just complaining - not much in the line of actual doing. That's for someone else to do.

AfterLife

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The problem isnt that people are happy or unhappy about these things, the problem in that people tolerate them.

I agree 100% but if you complain you are a "bin charge whinger", "water charge whinger" and so on. Any opposition and you're labelled some sort of whinger.

Gunner Jay

Gunner Jay wrote: »

Ireland is now a country where house prices soar while salaries go down. The are so many inequalities in Ireland it is unbelievable. With a mess of a health care system and a litany of scandals, when is enough enough? Six counties of Ireland are still owned by the Brits FFS.

Are you happy with the Ireland you live in today?

If your salary is going down then have you considered maybe you're the problem? Would take a few brain cells and a bit of self awareness I guess.

Thoughtform

AfterLife wrote: »

I agree 100% but if you complain you are a "bin charge whinger", "water charge whinger" and so on. Any opposition and you're labelled some sort of whinger.

Oh anyone who argues against the people who do nothing but complain online about how terrible things are from their smartphone, will usually get a torrent of abuse, so that evens things out.

Fozzydog3

OP is back from his weekend away in Amsterdam

K.Flyer

Sleeper12 wrote: »

... With a little patience we'll most likely be a united Ireland

Might be closer than you think!
Prepare for a united Ireland, says ex-DUP leader Peter Robinson

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

OP going...going....

Noveight

Compared to other countries Ireland is an absolute gem.

whisky_galore

mickoneill31 wrote: »

No, Ireland isn't a kip. We do, however have some world class whingers that try to drag everything down. They might be only about 5% of the population but they're about 50% of the online community.

Whinging about whinging. Oh the ironing.

Rodin

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending

The country of the famine is now one of the fattest in Europe because of its citizens gluttony and sloth. You couldn't make it up.

Sleeper12

K.Flyer wrote:

Might be closer than you think!

I did read that already. I'm not sure we want it too quickly. If it's not a gradual thing my fear is that the bombs move south

K.Flyer

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I did read that already. I'm not sure we want it too quickly. If it's not a gradual thing my fear is that the bombs move south

I doubt there would be any sort of smooth transition, even if T.May totally fcuks up Brexit and every single person up north races to get an Irish passport.

TheRiverman

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years or never.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

TheRiverman

TheRiverman wrote: »

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

Yes, we're not perfect and this certainly is a problem.

Rodin

TheRiverman wrote: »

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years or never.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

The broadband plan is a disaster. Such a waste of money. It was fine 10years ago but broadband should now be mobile - not fixed line. Just too expensive

andyd12

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

Maybe you should travel around your country before calling it a kip. Some of the most amazing places I have ever been to: Donegal, Galway, Antrim, Kerry.

Agreed along with Sligo, Leitrim, Mayo, cork etc etc. Far from a kip.

@OP...Go live in a 3rd world country, where the government systematically opresses it's people, for a few months. I bet you might change your tune and realise how lucky you are to have such freedom, opportunity and incredibly beauty in our country.

Wheeliebin30

andyd12 wrote: »

Agreed along with Sligo, Leitrim, Mayo, cork etc etc. Far from a kip.

@OP...Go live in a 3rd world country, where the government systematically opresses it's people, for a few months. I bet you might change your tune and realise how lucky you are to have such freedom, opportunity and incredibly beauty in our country.

Not to mention the most generous welfare system in Europe.

gctest50

Rodin wrote: »

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

.

The hse would be a whole lot better if the doctors weren't sh!te

Why are they sh!te ?

Overtired. Overtired all the time is the same as being drunk at work

A bit like some lad with a few pints in him *may* be able to drive home in one piece every week, sooner or later he'll run over the cat or worse

( some may just be plain sh!te at their job though)

In 2011, there were 573 claims for compensation against the Department and the HSE, resulting in costs of more than €58.8 million.

Last year, the number of claims had increased to €96.4 million.

2017 payouts totalling €56.8 million.

gozunda

Rodin wrote: »

The health service would be a whole lot better if people looked after their bodies

Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending

The country of the famine is now one of the fattest in Europe because of its citizens gluttony and sloth. You couldn't make it up.

Too many tabloid headlines there. Sedentary lifestyles are not just an issue in Ireland.

In this survey Ireland ranks fairly well down - coming in at no 55 ...

https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/

Any mamade or natural disaster or even the usual flu season and our 'health' system does not cope

If "Personal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending" then why is our health system fuked?

Sleeper12

TheRiverman wrote:

One criticism I have of this country is the culture of not getting things done for years or never.We have the broadband debacle at present,Motorways,rail link from Dublin Airport to city centre,new children's hospital etc.Just get it done,quickly.

At the same time we've come a long way. In the late 70s & early 80s there was a three year wait to get a Landline into your house. I remember people getting onto their local TD trying to speed things up.

Ah you've gotta love the Irish

Wheeliebin30

Sleeper12 wrote: »

At the same time we've come a long way. In the late 70s & early 80s there was a three year wait to get a Landline into your house. I remember people getting onto their local TD trying to speed things up.

Ah you've gotta love the Irish

It’s no different anywhere else.

Rodin

gozunda wrote: »

Too many tabloid headlines there. Sedentary lifestyles are not just an issue in Ireland.

Any mamade or natural disaster or even the usual flu season and our 'health' system does not cope

If "Peesonal Lifestyle and food choices now account for a vast amount of health spending" then why is our health system fuked?

Because there are too many demands on it!
Because too many are ill because of their lifestyle!

gozunda

Rodin wrote: »

Because there are too many demands on it!
Because too many are ill because of their lifestyle!

Maybe cos it's shoite and it can't even cope with an average flu season?

Mutant z

No and i suggest to those who want to run this country down at every turn to go and live elsewhere this isn't the country for you.

Wheeliebin30

gozunda wrote: »

Maybe cos it's shoite and it can't even cope with an average flu season?

Do you think every country copes with flu season?

Alf Veedersane

Shenshen wrote: »

Lots of room to improve, but show me any country that doesn't have that.

RTE repeats, innit

jace_da_face

Go have a look at Skid Row downtown L.A. on Google street view and then tell me if you think Ireland is a kip.