Job Dilemma - anyone able to advise?

Hello 1

Ok, so I've got a bit of a work dilemma.

I recently left my last job due to bullying, but the person in question no longer works for the company, and I've since been contacted by my former employer asking me to come back and work for them again.

But also, since leaving my last job, I applied for other jobs, and recently attended an interview, at which I was told I had been successful in securing the position, however, I was told I would be hired on a 'relief' ( subbing) basis, 'with a view to going full time'.
In my old job, I would be on full time hours.

My former boss has also been in contact with me asking me to come back and work for them, saying that to them, I am a 'valued member of staff and don't want to lose me'

So basically, I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

My gut tells me to go back to my old job, because it's a very familiar environment to me, and have always been on good terms with the management.
The new job offer, the management have had a reputation for 'churning out' staff all the time. I know both places quite well. The pay is more or less the same in both places.

Anyone able to advise me? I don't know what to do.

Thank you.

CiarraiAbu2

If they want you back and you were happy before the bullying then why not your old job, especially if the new offer 'churns out staff'.

JackieChan

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

If they want you back and you were happy before the bullying then why not your old job, especially if the new offer 'churns out staff'.

+1

sometimes the grass can seem greener elsewhere so if you liked it other than the issue with that individual I would go back.

Jimbob1977

If the reason for your departure is gone (i.e. the bully) and you liked the first job, then you should consider returning.

One question - did the old company take the bullying seriously or turn a blind eye to it? Was the other person sacked for bullying or simply left?

It sounds like the new company can't guarantee you full time employment.

Follow your heart.

Stheno

is this the job you'd a lot of threads about with constant problems? If yes then don't go back

callaway92

I’d tell them you’ve been offered bigger money to really try and get them to ‘win’ you back.

Get a few quid more too

richiepurgas

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

If the reason for your departure is gone (i.e. the bully) and you liked the first job, then you should consider returning.

One question - did the old company take the bullying seriously or turn a blind eye to it? Was the other person sacked for bullying or simply left?

It sounds like the new company can't guarantee you full time employment.

Follow your heart.

I think that's the key in the third line above. Has your former employer learned anything from your experience ?

Hello 1

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

If the reason for your departure is gone (i.e. the bully) and you liked the first job, then you should consider returning.

One question - did the old company take the bullying seriously or turn a blind eye to it? Was the other person sacked for bullying or simply left?

It sounds like the new company can't guarantee you full time employment.

Follow your heart.

The old company did not take the bullying seriously on both occasions, there was more issues involving those staff who clashed with others in the business after I left of my own accord, then both handed in their resignations and left the business themselves. Neither were sacked or even disciplined for their behaviour, but one did come close to getting their P45 due to another completely separate issue.

Jimbob1977

If the toxic environment remained, I would not return. You might find yourself back at Square One in a few weeks or months.

If they learnt their lesson and bullying was stamped out, I would consider a return.

It sounds like they turned a blind eye and their HR practices are below par

pauliebdub

Is there a third option? Maybe have a look around for something else, but it depends on how company A dealt with the bullying, if it was unsatisfactory it could happen to you again. Company b doesn't sound all that attractive.

OMM 0000

Hello 1 wrote: »

The old company did not take the bullying seriously on both occasions, there was more issues involving those staff who clashed with others in the business after I left of my own accord, then both handed in their resignations and left the business themselves. Neither were sacked or even disciplined for their behaviour, but one did come close to getting their P45 due to another completely separate issue.

I would not go back to this company.

They didn't respect you then, so we should assume they won't respect you in the future.

If you have no urgent need for a permanent job, I would risk taking the new job offer.

SirChenjin

My first thought - similar to previous posters - was, how did the company deal with the situation. From what you say, they didn't handle it properly, so that would give me pause for thought, if I were you.

Think of all the factors before making a decision. Apart from salary, look at the overall picture - benefits such as staff schemes, annual leave allocation, location, opportunities to learn, to move upwards (if that is what you want) and so forth.

And as per PP, maybe it is not just between the two jobs, have a look at whatever else is out there.

Hello 1

Thank you for the replies.

There has been a further development to this situation.

The company has recently been sold to new owners, and will have new management in the near future.

So what do you think I should do? This kinda changes things for me.

screamer

I'd belt on for pastures new. If your old employer has let you down on 2 other occasions, they'll repeat the same form down the line. If you're willing to accept that and just want s full-time job, go back but grow a thicker skin to protect yourself, seeing as they never will.

OMM 0000

Hello 1 wrote: »

The company has recently been sold to new owners, and will have new management in the near future.

I worked for multinational who sold it's IT department to a different company. (Weird situation, I know).

When the new company took over, they interviewed everyone. They told me I'll have to reduce my salary by 10,000 RMB per month, which is around EUR 1,250.

So... it's hard to predict what the outcome of the new management team will be.

gandalf

Hello 1 wrote: »

Thank you for the replies.

There has been a further development to this situation.

The company has recently been sold to new owners, and will have new management in the near future.

So what do you think I should do? This kinda changes things for me.

I'd get them to formalise the offer on paper. From reading the other job is a "maybe" job and this is a full time one. I would address with them the issues you had previously and ask them directly if a situation like that manifested again how would they handle it this time. They obviously do rate you and they do want you to come back to them so make them work for it a bit and put your mind to rest at the same time.

With regard to the take over is this company in good shape. The last thing you want to do is join and then be trimmed as part of any shake up. Last in equals first out.

Again based purely on the fact the other one is a maybe one and this is full time and paying as such I'd take this one. If you have any misgivings keep looking and applying for other jobs. It is always easier to get a job when you have one. Good luck!

Tony EH

Hello 1 wrote: »

Ok, so I've got a bit of a work dilemma.

I recently left my last job due to bullying, but the person in question no longer works for the company, and I've since been contacted by my former employer asking me to come back and work for them again.

But also, since leaving my last job, I applied for other jobs, and recently attended an interview, at which I was told I had been successful in securing the position, however, I was told I would be hired on a 'relief' ( subbing) basis, 'with a view to going full time'.
In my old job, I would be on full time hours.

My former boss has also been in contact with me asking me to come back and work for them, saying that to them, I am a 'valued member of staff and don't want to lose me'

So basically, I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

My gut tells me to go back to my old job, because it's a very familiar environment to me, and have always been on good terms with the management.
The new job offer, the management have had a reputation for 'churning out' staff all the time. I know both places quite well. The pay is more or less the same in both places.

Anyone able to advise me? I don't know what to do.

Thank you.

I'd go back to the old job, as you know nothing about the new place and you were fine there, besides the bully issue. Plus, the new place has a "reputation" and you could find yourself with no job at all soon enough.

1. Take NOTHING an employer says to you at face value. A "view" to something means bugger all. Employers lie all the time.

2. You don't really know anything about the new job. You know your old job.

3. The former employer didn't cover themselves in glory over this "bullying" incident. But, remember they have to play things safe and it's always (or at least should be) a slow moving process.

4. The "bully problem" has now gone in the old place, therefore clearing your issue.

5. The major issue now, is that your old company has been sold. This is never good for employees.


It's difficult to say with any certainty what to do here. But, personally speaking, I'd be leaning to the old place, with the caveat of finding out as much info on what its sale means for the current employees. I worked in a place once that was sold off and over half of the staff found themselves chucked out.