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Do you always push the clutch down fully when switching gear?

  • 24-07-2018 3:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭


    I haven't been on the road in a while, is it alright to just have the clutch disengaged enough when changing gear, if your concentrating on where your going for example

    Although most times it will be on the way to being fully disengaged, where-ever you decide to change gear.

    Does it have any significant effect on the gearbox?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    You can even change gears without pressing clutch pedal at all if you can match revs exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭morritty


    What??

    Is it not just the normal thing to fully depress the clutch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,798 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It doesn't do your clutch any favours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭miece16


    I love doing clutchless gear changes. once you match the car speed and RPM it just pops into neutral and back into next gear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,798 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    miece16 wrote: »
    I love doing clutchless gear changes. once you match the car speed and RPM it just pops into neutral and back into next gear


    Going by the OPs question i suspect they are not doing this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Crash gearbox yeah.

    Ten year old Yaris not so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Always been of the mindset of press clutch fully - change gear.

    Never tried clutchless gearing... and a quick search brought up this.

    https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/15588/clutch-less-shifting-why-does-it-work-is-it-bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    miece16 wrote: »
    I love doing clutchless gear changes. once you match the car speed and RPM it just pops into neutral and back into next gear


    Going by the OPs question i suspect they are not doing this.
    ah no, clutch pedal goes a bit far down :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    Jesus man, with the questions you're asking here and in the “short shifter” thread you’d be better off just going for an automatic :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    In short, if you hear a noise you're not doing it right..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    I don't think people really get what i'm saying here. First of all I never mentioned an automatic...the petrol needs more gear changes so I wanna make it easier - it's a 150bph golf btw....happiest in 6th gear

    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    euser1984 wrote: »
    I don't think people really get what i'm saying here

    I don’t think people really get what you’re saying in a lot of your recent posts to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    I do try to but am quite a poor driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭dollylama


    I find each car is different depending on clutch condition, adjustment, etc. My own car has an "early" clutch so - rightly or wrongly - I can literally tap the peddle and switch gears rapidly, the work car I have to go right to the floor to get it to disengage... the clutch literally doesn't let go until the last inch of pedal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    euser1984 wrote: »
    I don't think people really get what i'm saying here. First of all I never mentioned an automatic...the petrol needs more gear changes so I wanna make it easier - it's a 150bph golf btw....happiest in 6th gear

    thanks

    6th gear in an urban area! 150bhp is nothing special outside this country where people buy cars instead of the number plate. Surely a petrol that can rev to 7k would need less changes than a diesel that revs to 4k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    If you have to think about the position of the clutch pedal for gear changing while driving, you shouldn't be driving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    biko wrote: »
    In short, if you hear a noise you're not doing it right..

    Well that would depend on what we're talking about :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    people don't know anything about me
    Del2005 wrote: »
    euser1984 wrote: »
    I don't think people really get what i'm saying here. First of all I never mentioned an automatic...the petrol needs more gear changes so I wanna make it easier - it's a 150bph golf btw....happiest in 6th gear

    thanks

    6th gear in an urban area!  150bhp is nothing special outside this country where people buy cars instead of the number plate.  Surely a petrol that can rev to 7k would need less changes than a diesel that revs to 4k.
    when did i say there was anything special - i was trying to make the point that i don't want a short shifter for something that's 110bph.  don't try to put words in my mouth please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Push your foot all the way down

    Why all the gear change questions today?

    My car is not a 150bhp petrol golf. They must be very hard to change gears in


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Bph? Is that a drug of some sort?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Why all the gear change questions today?

    Just thinking the same myself.

    Are ye all getting lazy ?

    Either way my answer to these questions and the other one regarding short shifters etc.

    Get an automatic !

    if you're too lazy to press the clutch all the way down or too lazy to move the gear stick then re-think driving manuals before you start doing damage to your car for whatever reason costing in repairs !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    There are many 110bhp engines that can be short shifted alot easier than a 150bhp, in particular say a 110bhp diesel against a 150bhp highly tuned petrol that has a very narrow powerband.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    euser1984 wrote: »
    I haven't been on the road in a while, is it alright to just have the clutch disengaged enough when changing gear, if your concentrating on where your going for example

    Although most times it will be on the way to being fully disengaged, where-ever you decide to change gear.

    Does it have any significant effect on the gearbox?

    I always put the clutch down fully when changing gears.It sounds like you are a bit nervous about driving after not doing it for a while,but concentrating on where you are going and clutching,changing gears etc are all part of the normal co-ordination you should have when driving a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,482 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Just buy an automatic OP. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭db


    This thread should be in Learning To Drive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Timmaay wrote: »
    There are many 110bhp engines that can be short shifted alot easier than a 150bhp, in particular say a 110bhp diesel against a 150bhp highly tuned petrol that has a very narrow powerband.

    It's been a while since I last drove a diesel, but my experience is petrols have nicer gearchanges, lighter clutch pedals, and are much more forgiving of being in the wrong gear.

    With diesels because of the narrow powerband you need to be a bit more alert as to what gear you're in (although the extra noise and vibrations tend to make you aware if you should be in another gear anyway).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    Timmaay wrote: »
    There are many 110bhp engines that can be short shifted alot easier than a 150bhp, in particular say a 110bhp diesel against a 150bhp highly tuned petrol that has a very narrow powerband.

    It's been a while since I last drove a diesel, but my experience is petrols have nicer gearchanges, lighter clutch pedals, and are much more forgiving of being in the wrong gear.

    With diesels because of the narrow powerband you need to be a bit more alert as to what gear you're in (although the extra noise and vibrations tend to make you aware if you should be in another gear anyway).
    Timmaay wrote: »
    There are many 110bhp engines that can be short shifted alot easier than a 150bhp, in particular say a 110bhp diesel against a 150bhp highly tuned petrol that has a very narrow powerband.
    It sounds like you got it bang on here -it's more hassle than a diesel to stay within the power range - compunded with the turbo imo - although i do have anti-lag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    I'd say the linkage just needs to be checked for the gearbox - it's making abit of noise especially in first gear change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭morritty


    euser1984 wrote: »
    I'd say the linkage just needs to be checked for the gearbox - it's making abit of noise especially in first gear change
    Maybe its the fact your not fully pressing the clutch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭euser1984


    morritty wrote: »
    euser1984 wrote: »
    I'd say the linkage just needs to be checked for the gearbox - it's making abit of noise especially in first gear change
    Maybe its the fact your not fully pressing the clutch.
    it's possible - but like others have mentioned there is no need to press the clutch down completely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭morritty


    euser1984 wrote: »
    it's possible - but like others have mentioned there is no need to press the clutch down completely

    This has to be a troll thread right?

    You don't want to change gears as much, you don't like the length of throw in your gear shifts, you don't want to fully press the clutch to change gears.

    Change your golf for a DSG equipped one, if it has flappy paddles, don't use them, you might complain about moving your fingers too much.

    I'm out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Press clutch down completely. That's the answer.


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