Peak rugby?

Balanadan

Have we passed the peak of interest in rugby in this country? Have the general public realised that it's a sport for lads who aren't skillful enough for football or strong enough for boxing?

WesternZulu

Hopefully.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Balanadan wrote: »

Have we passed the peak of interest in rugby in this country? Have the general public realised that it's a sport for lads who aren't skillful enough for football or strong enough for boxing?

People’s game mate.
Do you go through your life hating on activities or sports you don’t do, or watch?

Sad.

Signore Fancy Pants

What about transgender black single mothers who are on the dole?

Can they like rugby?

Balanadan

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

People’s game mate.
Do you go through your life hating on activitues ot sports you don’t do, or watch?

Sad.

What are you talking about?

Fr_Dougal

We’ve reached peak Balanadan.

GreeBo

Balanadan wrote: »

Have we passed the peak of interest in rugby in this country? Have the general public realised that it's a sport for lads who aren't skillful enough for football or strong enough for boxing?

Balanadan wrote: »

What are you talking about?

Indeed.

pleas advice

The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable!

squawker

A few queries on your post

have you ever played Rugby?

is it Soccer or GAA you are blathering on about?

Atoms for Peace

Rugby doesn't outstay it's welcome thanks to a relatively short season and competitions with a small amount of evenly matched teams.
It's also good for small talk as nobody actually knows the rules and most of the general population don't take it too seriously.

enricoh

No chance, Ireland is to be the fattest country in Europe in a few years iirc, we won't be able to fit into any other tops other than rugby shirts!

RikkFlair

An Irishman reached the peak of K2 recently, have we reached peak peak?

Yer Da sells Avon

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

People’s game mate.

It is in its hole.

Balanadan

squawker wrote: »

A few queries on your post

have you ever played Rugby?

is it Soccer or GAA you are blathering on about?

Are you American?

Mumha

Balanadan wrote: »

Have we passed the peak of interest in rugby in this country? Have the general public realised that it's a sport for lads who aren't skillful enough for football or strong enough for boxing?

We haven't scratched the surface of rugby interest in this country. There are still huge problems in underage development, largely due to underfunding. Once that is addressed, the future will be massive for the game here. That we are doing so well at the moment, is a testament to the parts that are working. Rejoice !

Yer Da sells Avon

Mumha wrote: »

That we are doing so well at the moment, is a testament to the parts that are working.

Not having had a private education, I can't help but think of the Irish rugby team (well, most of it) as they.

mynamejeff

Balanadan wrote: »

Have we passed the peak of interest in rugby in this country? Have the general public realised that it's a sport for lads who aren't skillful enough for football or strong enough for boxing?

you may have to wait til after the RWC in Japan ,

Ireland will be going as one of the top teams with some of the best players in the world

its sure to be a better spectacle than the shame full over paid play actors and tax cheats that were in Russia scrounging money from kids and company's alike

some day you might understand but i doubt it

squawker

Balanadan wrote: »

Are you American?

ffs :rolleyes:

Franz Von Peppercorn

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

It is in its hole.

Compare the huge crowds that flock to watch Munster, Connaught or Leinster to the measly groups of a few dozen layabouts that frequent the Irish soccerball leagues.

People’s sport.

Balanadan

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Compare the huge crowds that flock to watch Munster, Connaught or Leinster to the measly groups of a few dozen layabouts that frequent the Irish soccerball leagues.

People’s sport.

The crowds are pretty small given that the teams are supposed to represent a whole province. Apart from the Rugby Champions League matches of course.

Balanadan

squawker wrote: »

ffs :rolleyes:

What's the matter chap?

Yer Da sells Avon

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Compare the huge crowds that flock to watch Munster, Connaught or Leinster to the measly groups of a few dozen layabouts that frequent the Irish soccerball leagues.

People’s sport.

Privately educated people's sport. Most Irish people could barely name a rugby player until very recently.

riffmongous

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Compare the huge crowds that flock to watch Munster, Connaught or Leinster to the measly groups of a few dozen layabouts that frequent the Irish soccerball leagues.

People’s sport.

Layabouts? Careful there or people might the wrong idea



I quite like rugby, but not the hype that goes with it though once we start playing well and the hype after we lose. I don't know what's it's like now but when I left ireland it was certainly not a cross society sport when it came to on field participation, it was even worse than cricket as at least there you had plenty of working class immigrants taking part

Mumha

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Not having had a private education, I can't help but think of the Irish rugby team (well, most of it) as they.

Not having had a private education, I can't help but think of the Irish rugby team as we.

Amirani

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Compare the huge crowds that flock to watch Munster, Connaught or Leinster to the measly groups of a few dozen layabouts that frequent the Irish soccerball leagues.

People’s sport.

Connaught had an average attendance of 5,780 last season. Not exactly great for a full province in a league with only 10 home games a year.

Cork City averaged 4,559 last year in their 17 home games.

The Lost Sheep

Balanadan wrote: »

Have we passed the peak of interest in rugby in this country? Have the general public realised that it's a sport for lads who aren't skillful enough for football or strong enough for boxing?

Rugby far from a peak in many ways.

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Rugby doesn't outstay it's welcome thanks to a relatively short season and competitions with a small amount of evenly matched teams.
It's also good for small talk as nobody actually knows the rules and most of the general population don't take it too seriously.

Season isnt relatively short in rugby though. Provinces play September to May and national teams go on until June.

Mumha wrote: »

We haven't scratched the surface of rugby interest in this country. There are still huge problems in underage development, largely due to underfunding. Once that is addressed, the future will be massive for the game here. That we are doing so well at the moment, is a testament to the parts that are working. Rejoice !

There is issues in underage development in some areas but underfunding not necessarily the problem. Where do you see underfunding as having caused huge problems?

shakeitoff

mynamejeff wrote: »

you may have to wait til after the RWC in Japan ,

Ireland will be going as one of the top teams with some of the best players in the world

its sure to be a better spectacle than the shame full over paid play actors and tax cheats that were in Russia scrounging money from kids and company's alike

some day you might understand but i doubt it

Japan is going to host the world cup and I bet hardly any Japanese know it's actually on. **** sport, **** popularity, **** world cup.

Rugby will peak though, I think in next decade a lot of research will come out that will mean parents will stop kids playing it.

Franz Von Peppercorn

riffmongous wrote: »

Layabouts? Careful there or people might the wrong idea



I quite like rugby, but not the hype that goes with it though once we start playing well and the hype after we lose. I don't know what's it's like now but when I left ireland it was certainly not a cross society sport when it came to on field participation, it was even worse than cricket as at least there you had plenty of working class immigrants taking part

You guys realise that Connaught and Munster have big support right? Mostly from your average joe.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Amirani wrote: »

Connaught had an average attendance of 5,780 last season. Not exactly great for a full province in a league with only 10 home games a year.

Cork City averaged 4,559 last year in their 17 home games.

Now, do the other two.

Balanadan

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Now, do the other two.

Balanadan wrote: »

The crowds are pretty small given that the teams are supposed to represent a whole province. Apart from the Rugby Champions League matches of course.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Balanadan wrote: »

Not much of an argument. Leinster Munster matches alone probably exceed all of the yearly soccer-ball attendances.

Soccerball is not that popular as a spectator sport. National team is sh1te and not getting better. Local clubs have more players than supporters.

Probably soccer-ball will have to move out of the Aviva. Maybe swap with the cricket grounds in malahide. That’s a growing sport.

Yamanoto

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Not having had a private education, I can't help but think of the Irish rugby team (well, most of it) as they.

Funny, it never crossed my mind to lend only conditional support to Stephen Roche, Michael Carruth or Sonia O'Sullivan, until such time as I'd established their social & educational backgrounds. I'm Irish & they're Irish, was happy to see 'em succeed in their chosen sports.

AllForIt

I hope we have reached peaked sport, especially team sports in this county - at this stage it's just hysterical.

Balanadan

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Not much of an argument. Leinster Munster matches alone probably exceed all of the yearly soccer-ball attendances.

Soccerball is not that popular as a spectator sport. National team is sh1te and not getting better. Local clubs have more players than supporters.

Probably soccer-ball will have to move out of the Aviva. Maybe swap with the cricket grounds in malahide. That’s a growing sport.

You're not making any sense mate.

Duckworth_Luas

shakeitoff wrote: »

Japan is going to host the world cup and I bet hardly any Japanese know it's actually on. **** sport, **** popularity, **** world cup.

Rugby will peak though, I think in next decade a lot of research will come out that will mean parents will stop kids playing it.

One week out and Russia had sold 2.4 million tickets for the Nancyball World Cup.


Two years out and Japan has already had 2.5 million applications for tickets.

LETHAL LADY

One of the reasons I don't like rugby is my childhood best friend's brother died from injuries sustained in a scrum during a game. His neck was broken. ...in a scrum like???

KaneToad

RikkFlair wrote: »

An Irishman reached the peak of K2 recently, have we reached peak peak?

Or peak peek ?

prinzeugen

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Not much of an argument. Leinster Munster matches alone probably exceed all of the yearly soccer-ball attendances.

Soccerball is not that popular as a spectator sport. National team is sh1te and not getting better. Local clubs have more players than supporters.

Probably soccer-ball will have to move out of the Aviva. Maybe swap with the cricket grounds in malahide. That’s a growing sport.

Attendance for football in the Aviva varies. Average football attendance is around 34,000 - 36,000. You get some near sell outs and piss poor attendance at others.

Most of the rugby "fans" are the prawn and prosseco crowd. Its fashionable to be go to a rugby game. Plenty buy tickets and sit in the stands and read broadsheet newspapers or books.

This happens. Just so they can say they were there.

Duckworth_Luas

prinzeugen wrote: »

Most of the rugby "fans" are the prawn and prosseco crowd. Its fashionable to be go to a rugby game. Plenty buy tickets and sit in the stands and read broadsheet newspapers or books.

This happens. Just so they can say they were there.

Twenty Grand

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

One of the reasons I don't like rugby is my childhood best friend's brother died from injuries sustained in a scrum during a game. His neck was broken. ...in a scrum like???

Unfortunately happens, but it's very very rare. Sorry for your loss.

Wikipedia has a page for sports deaths. At least 6 soccer players died on the pitch last year. Many die of heart attacks.

Bandana boy

prinzeugen wrote: »

Attendance for football in the Aviva varies. Average football attendance is around 34,000 - 36,000. You get some near sell outs and piss poor attendance at others.

Most of the rugby "fans" are the prawn and prosseco crowd. Its fashionable to be go to a rugby game. Plenty buy tickets and sit in the stands and read broadsheet newspapers or books.

This happens. Just so they can say they were there.

I have been in Landsdown road no less than 3 times a year ( and probably average 7) every year since 1986 and never seen anybody reading a paper or book during a rugby game.

ohnonotgmail

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Now, do the other two.

For the Pro 12 in 2016 Ulster averaged 15,792, Leinster 15,564 and Munster 12,890. For the Champions cup leinster and munster averaged 30081 and 25900. Munster could have sold more as their european games are always a sellout.

prinzeugen

prinzeugen wrote: »

Attendance for football in the Aviva varies. Average football attendance is around 34,000 - 36,000. You get some near sell outs and piss poor attendance at others.

Most of the rugby "fans" are the prawn and prosseco crowd. Its fashionable to be go to a rugby game. Plenty buy tickets and sit in the stands and read broadsheet newspapers or books.

This happens. Just so they can say they were there.

Nothing like the Financial Times and a good book

citytillidie

Can't compare attendances of Ulster, Munster games to League of Ireland to get a true reflection you would compare it to the All Ireland league, bet many people don't even know there is an All Ireland rugby Union league

The Pheasant2

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Not having had a private education, I can't help but think of the Irish rugby team (well, most of it) as they.

Ah I'm sad for you - 'must be tiresome for your shoulder carrying that prejudicial chip around

DEFTLEFTHAND

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Rugby doesn't outstay it's welcome thanks to a relatively short season and competitions with a small amount of evenly matched teams.
It's also good for small talk as nobody actually knows the rules and most of the general population don't take it too seriously.

The season can be up to 10 months long for international players.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Not having had a private education, I can't help but think of the Irish rugby team (well, most of it) as they.

It's not a prerequisite to have played schools rugby.

There's a thriving club scene all over the country with teams operating at all age levels.

Red_Wake

Rugby has a lot of room to grow, but it's hard to gauge how much real enthusiasm there is for growth at the grassroots level.

In my office, plenty of people follow the international matches, but wouldn't go to a provincial match until a quarter or semi final, and if you asked them if they'd let their kids play they'd balk at the thought of them playing rugby, due to the risk of injuries.

As a consequence, the high profile successes of the international team doesn't increase grassroots participation like it did with the football team in Italia 90, or how GAA has had a massive increase in participation due to Dublin's successes in the last few years. Without a growth in player numbers, rugby will continue to rely on foreign imports, which is an expensive game to get into and not sustainable in the long term. 

Having said that, **** the egg chasers.

DEFTLEFTHAND

For instance nearly every decent sized midlands town have a club.

You'll find all sorts playing the game where I'm from. It's played like any other sport, I've never witnessed any classism.

The Lost Sheep

Red_Wake wrote: »

Rugby has a lot of room to grow, but it's hard to gauge how much real enthusiasm there is for growth at the grassroots level.

In my office, plenty of people follow the international matches, but wouldn't go to a provincial match until a quarter or semi final, and if you asked them if they'd let their kids play they'd balk at the thought of them playing rugby, due to the risk of injuries.

As a consequence, the high profile successes of the international team doesn't increase grassroots participation like it did with the football team in Italia 90, or how GAA has had a massive increase in participation due to Dublin's successes in the last few years. Without a growth in player numbers, rugby will continue to rely on foreign imports, which is an expensive game to get into and not sustainable in the long term. 

Having said that, **** the egg chasers.

However the provinces successes and national teams successes has increased grassroots participation. Not to same extent as soccer after Italia 90 but pretty substantial nonetheless with age grade players.
You are very focused on Dublin as dublins successes in football wont have changed participation in most counties.

FrToddUnctious

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Compare the huge crowds that flock to watch Munster, Connaught or Leinster to the measly groups of a few dozen layabouts that frequent the Irish soccerball leagues.

People’s sport.

I have nothing really against rugby but in this country, the 'people's sport' is GAA and anyone who suggests anything otherwise is a complete moron