The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

The Good Ole Boys

coco0981 wrote: »

Tom Brady seems to be enjoying Twitter, nice to see his lighter side
https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1118242409962442753?s=19

Tom was always good on social media. His ****ty photoshops on FB were great. His sense of humour is nice, I like it.

jack presley

Two possible releases today. The schedule is definitely coming out but apparently the Kraft tape could be released too.

The Good Ole Boys

I bet everyone really wants to see that Kraft tape.

jack presley

The Good Ole Boys wrote: »

I bet everyone really wants to see that Kraft tape.

Oh God no. Old man porn? No thank you.

mikemac2

Ah schedule release day

When message boards of all 32 teams believe the league has a vendetta and screwed them

j8wk2feszrnpao

mikemac2 wrote: »

Ah schedule release day

When message boards of all 32 teams believe the league has a vendetta and screwed them

The bye week is the only issue. Having it really early is far from ideal.

ArmaniJeanss

munstermagic11 wrote: »

The bye week is the only issue.

Having your most difficult game on a Thursday night 4 days after your second most difficult game can be another bone of contention.

Hazys

Gronk being Gronk

https://twitter.com/patriots/status/1118623021865025536?s=21

OldMrBrennan83

Handy.

https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/1118720147450208256?s=19

helimachoptor

Get to see odell and Baker be humbled by the titans in person in week 1.

Whats not to love about that schedule

jack presley

helimachoptor wrote: »

Get to see odell and Baker be humbled by the titans in person in week 1.

Whats not to love about that schedule

Prime contender to be the Sky 6pm game that week I’d say

ScrubsfanChris

How Atlanta decided to show of their schedule:
https://twitter.com/AtlantaFalcons/status/1118665439263981568

I lost it at 40 seconds :pac:


The Chargers one wasn't half bad eitehr:
https://twitter.com/Chargers/status/1118665449594470400

Onecoolcookie

Panthers one is best of all! Didn't think I'd enjoy the schedule announcements so much!

https://twitter.com/Panthers/status/1118673996365619201

paulie21

Frank Clark traded to Chiefs

Oat23

In other words, I don't want to stay in this horrible sunshine. Trade me back home to the cold :pac:


I don't remember seeing a kicker demand a trade before? I don't see the Niners letting him go though.



https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120740809517731842

Realt Dearg Sec

Oat23 wrote: »

In other words, I don't want to stay in this horrible sunshine. Trade me back home to the cold :pac:


I don't remember seeing a kicker demand a trade before? I don't see the Niners letting him go though.



https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120740809517731842

Someone must be grovelling pretty hard at his front door in Chicago.

phatkev

paulie21 wrote: »

Frank Clark traded to Chiefs

great move by the Chiefs

the baby bull elephant

phatkev wrote: »

great move by the Chiefs

Given the compensation, the supposed d line talent in this draft and having to pay him 20m+ a year I think the Seahawks got the better end.

letowski

phatkev wrote:

great move by the Chiefs

It feels like they gave up a lot plus they have to pay him about $19mil per year.

Foxtrol

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Someone must be grovelling pretty hard at his front door in Chicago.

At the tail end of the season last year he spoke really highly of how much he was enjoying his time at the 49ers and spent months in talks for an extension. Pulling this now he was either tampered with, and knows someone will trade something for him, or has lost the plot.

Foxtrol

phatkev wrote: »

great move by the Chiefs

Though a good player, hard to see that Clark deal as anything other than Seahawks fleecing them.

While letting Houston walk, Chiefs basically traded Dee Ford and a 1st round pick for Clark, who will likely demand a more expensive deal than Ford. They’ll have to hope their evaluations were right or this could look bad.

Oat23

Foxtrol wrote: »

At the tail end of the season last year he spoke really highly of how much he was enjoying his time at the 49ers and spent months in talks for an extension. Pulling this now he was either tampered with, and knows someone will trade something for him, or has lost the plot.

Or maybe he just misses his family and decided himself that he wants to be closer to home? His wife gave birth near the end of the season and they live in Chicago. He lived in a SF hotel last season. He also spent a lot of time between January and when he was tagged talking about the Bears and perhaps returning. He was basically begging Pace to sign him and he would have if it weren't for the tag.

“I’m not really thinking about it. I’m not really worried about it. I’m just worried about playing football. My family is not living out there with me right now, so I have a countdown for when I can go home and kiss my three boys and my wife.”
Five weeks ago, Gould’s wife, Lauren, gave birth to the couple’s third child. The 49ers’ kicker was able to make two trips back to Chicago to spend time with his family. Because he was beginning the second year of a two-year contract he signed with the 49ers, the decision was made for Gould to live in a hotel close to 49ers headquarters while the rest of the family remained in their permanent home.
“My wife and I decided this year because my deal is up at the end of this year that we wanted them to have normalcy,” Gould said.

phatkev

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

Given the compensation, the supposed d line talent in this draft and having to pay him 20m+ a year I think the Seahawks got the better end.

dline talent might be deep but theres no way you're getting a player anywhere near his talent at 29. I'd happily give up what they did to get one of the best DE's in the league

Foxtrol

Oat23 wrote: »

Or maybe he just misses his family and decided himself that he wants to be closer to home? His wife gave birth near the end of the season and they live in Chicago. He lived in a SF hotel last season. He also spent a lot of time between January and when he was tagged talking about the Bears and perhaps returning. He was basically begging Pace to sign him and he would have if it weren't for the tag.

He’s a grown adult and supposed professional who you want me to believe has, after 2 seasons in San Francisco plus 3 months of the offseason, only now realized that he misses his family?

I like Gould but he has spent the last few months playing both sides of things. One minute he is in the media loving life at the 49ers (see below), then suddenly after the Parkey miss he’s back in the media courting a return to Chicago, then he gets tagged and continues through the whole period to negotiate a long term contract with SF, before finally waiting until 2 days prior to the draft to request a trade (a month after tagging).

I’m all for players doing all they can to earn their money, but he has been all over the place and has now put his team, that he apparently appreciates, in a bad spot. Hopefully it’ll work itself out for both sides, but I won’t feel bad for him if he ends up losing his $5m contract this year and has to sit out.

"Ultimately, at the end of the day, I hope I'm back here," Gould continued. "If that's how it is, I love it here. I've enjoyed it here. I think this place checks a lot of boxes off as a player. I think the support staff here is phenomenal. I think the York family has been incredible through the entire two years I've been here, especially through some tough situations that my wife and I have had to deal with, whether it's delivering a baby, whether it's going through a personal situation last training camp.

"I don't think they get enough credit for the human side of football. Everyone looks at wins and losses, and I think those are things that, as a player, you take into account. And then you go to my special teams room, that room is probably the best room I've had in my 14-year career. Those are things that all go into it."

eagle eye

phatkev wrote:

dline talent might be deep but theres no way you're getting a player anywhere near his talent at 29. I'd happily give up what they did to get one of the best DE's in the league

This is how teams do it wrong. Buikd through the draft and you never have cap issues.
Chiefs must be skating very close to the cap limit right now with the deal they gave Clark, which is $105.5m over five years with $63m guaranteed.

Knex*

phatkev wrote: »

great move by the Chiefs

Horrendous, if you ask me. They gave up way too much draft capital and now have to pay him 20m a year, plus.

They essentially traded a first rounder away to move from Dee Ford to Clarke, and still have to fork out the contract.

letowski

It seems to be a policy under Brett Veach the two years he has been GM. They are willing to pay a premium for outside talent. Tyrann Mathieu (3y/$42m), Anthony Hitchens (5y/$45m), Sammy Watkins (3y/$48m) and now Frank Clark will all be getting rich contracts. I think Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill are up next year and Pat Mahomes the year after that (or they pick up the 5th year option). It will be interesting to see how they manage the cap over the next two years.

The_Honeybadger

eagle eye wrote: »

This is how teams do it wrong. Buikd through the draft and you never have cap issues.
Chiefs must be skating very close to the cap limit right now with the deal they gave Clark, which is $105.5m over five years with $63m guaranteed.

Overthecap has them with 22m to spare before Clark signs and presumably they will need 5-6m for their rookies. They’ll have to make some cuts.

They have to choose between Watkins and Hill next year by the looks of it and Mahomes is going to be looking for one of the biggest NFL contracts ever a year after that if he continues to play like 2018.

conor222

Watkins was never meant to play the final year of the contract, he can be cut for 7 mil dead and free up 14m. He was a 2 year bridge option that we paid a premium for but that was understood.
Re the cap situation, that does not include the 9.5 million that is saved as of June 1st for cutting Eric berry so tath covers off some of that. The structure on the clark deal will be interesting, id expect he will be cuttable in yr 4 for peanuts (5mil or so) and you can balance the annual cost by spread the signing bonus to keep it manageable.

The_Honeybadger

conor222 wrote: »

Watkins was never meant to play the final year of the contract, he can be cut for 7 mil dead and free up 14m. He was a 2 year bridge option that we paid a premium for but that was understood.
Re the cap situation, that does not include the 9.5 million that is saved as of June 1st for cutting Eric berry so tath covers off some of that. The structure on the clark deal will be interesting, id expect he will be cuttable in yr 4 for peanuts (5mil or so) and you can balance the annual cost by spread the signing bonus to keep it manageable.

Fair enough, not as bad as it seems then. I see reports today linking the Chiefs to P Peterson as well who is very unsettled in Arizona. They could just about afford him in that case and it would really strengthen the secondary but I’ve no idea what they could trade for him now so it’s probably just speculation.