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How did Armstrong...

  • 20-07-2018 7:55am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭


    avoid mishaps for 7 straight tours? Whatever about the doping (bullying etc.) How did he stay upright, avoid punctures for 7 straight tours? I can only remember one incident in 2003 tour where he tangled with a spectator. Don't recall any punctures at key stages (last 10km)

    In this year's tour Thomas is the only guy to avoid mishaps & subsequent time loss.

    A bucket full of EPO, hormones & blood transfusions can't avoid punctures & crashes. How the hell did he have such good luck for 7 years?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Pure luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    "The Devil's children have the Devil's luck"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    LCD wrote: »
    avoid mishaps for 7 straight tours? Whatever about the doping (bullying etc.) How did he stay upright, avoid punctures for 7 straight tours? I can only remember one incident in 2003 tour where he tangled with a spectator. Don't recall any punctures at key stages (last 10km)

    In this year's tour Thomas is the only guy to avoid mishaps & subsequent time loss.

    A bucket full of EPO, hormones & blood transfusions can't avoid punctures & crashes. How the hell did he have such good luck for 7 years?

    Apart from that trip during the 2003 TDF, you're correct Armstrong managed to avoid accidents throughout. It helped that he had his team around him throughout most stages during the race.

    Indurain was another rider who seemed to avoid all mishaps too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    Armstrong was a great bike handler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEbtHiUcBc

    He was also the best of those who were all doping at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    This is just a theory, but were there just less crashes and incidents in his era?

    Now there are less flat stages, often a cobbles stage thrown in which leads to carnage, more descending? The first week of the tour used to be time trials and a chance for the sprinters.

    Are the current bikes and wheels more complex \ lighter and therefore more prone to punctures and issues?

    Reducing team sizes from 9 to 8 was supposed to mean less incidents...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    LCD wrote: »
    How the hell did he have such good luck for 7 years?
    Perhaps he avoided any mirrors...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    I remember the beloki crash. Was there less crashes back then?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    Beasty wrote: »
    Perhaps he avoided any mirrors...

    I had to reread that. Thought you said minors... and was wondering what you were getting at!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Armstrong was a great bike handler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEbtHiUcBc

    He was also the best of those who were all doping at the time.

    Armstrong himself admitted that was pure luck, he didn't see the drop to the side and claimed it was pure luck he made it through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Armstrong was a great bike handler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEbtHiUcBc

    He was also the best of those who were all doping at the time.

    I remember that.
    Great bike handler! Lol

    He took a short cut... Then pulled out in front of those who were in front of him before the incident.
    Not only does he rejoin the road from the side, he walks his bike to the middle of the road to slow the rest down before he gets on.
    Look at what the other rider, who came behind lance and the falling cyclist, did. That was honest.

    Great handler in this occasion... No!
    Just a cheat.
    CheatyMacCheatface Armstrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭pawdee


    I won't hear a bad word said about him.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    He had another lucky escape on the same Tour



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    There is always a degree of luck involved in multiple tour wins. Lemond would have won at least 2 more had he not been shot !
    Delgado was perhaps unlucky to win only one TDF.
    Armstrong was in deed very lucky but was an excellent bike handler and had a good racing brain. He always rode towards the front and had good reactions. He has lots of traits which are negative, nasty and downright cruel but he has to be admired for how he could ride and read a race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭mattser


    He didn't have to listen to Kimmage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭DKmac


    He certainly didn't have to change wheels as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    DKmac wrote: »
    He certainly didn't have to change wheels as much.
    But he didn't have the magnetic engine in them no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭irishrover99




    Great handler in this occasion... No!
    Just a cheat.
    CheatyMacCheatface Armstrong.

    That's the kind of slagging 7 year old kids use in the school playground


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