chin ups every day

seefin

Only recently tried doing chin ups and am failing miserably..can do 2 on a good day. Is it ok to do eg 5 sets of 5 negatives throughout each day or like any weightlifting, should I do alternating days to give muscle time to recover? Conflicting advice when I google

freemenfitness

If you look up the grease the groove method it does indeed work but at the stage your at it might be better to do dedicated strength sessions on your pull ups.

FriendsEV

Better to get stronger or lose weight first

Would do as above mentions

Try up your numbers on strength excercises like overhead press, bench press etc and chin/pull ups will get easier

When you've improved your strength I would be doing 3 x 3 on chin/pull and upping by 1 every week, wouldnt do everyday either, every 2nd or 3rd

Take your time

Alf Veedersane

FriendsEV wrote: »

Better to get stronger or lose weight first

Would do as above mentions

Try up your numbers on strength excercises like overhead press, bench press etc and chin/pull ups will get easier

When you've improved your strength I would be doing 3 x 3 on chin/pull and upping by 1 every week, wouldnt do everyday either, every 2nd or 3rd

Take your time

I'd love to know why the best exercises improving vertical pull strength are push exercises.

FriendsEV

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I'd love to know why the best exercises improving vertical pull strength are push exercises.

Everyone is different but I found overhead press and clean and press great for improving my all round strength

Picking something up from the ground and tossing it above your head is tough, get that strength up and rest follows imo

I have no problem doing pull ups, muscle ups, toes to bar from doing basic strength excercises, it does take time, took me a long time to get good at them.

I am not an expert, just saying what worked for me

Pull ups, chin ups, muscle ups etc are tough, don't know what the general advice is with regard incorporating them into workouts, I think they are advanced strength excercises myself

Alf Veedersane

seefin wrote: »

Only recently tried doing chin ups and am failing miserably..can do 2 on a good day. Is it ok to do eg 5 sets of 5 negatives throughout each day or like any weightlifting, should I do alternating days to give muscle time to recover? Conflicting advice when I google

Here is a good thread on chin up/pull up progression:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=94357067

Transform

FriendsEV wrote: »

Everyone is different but I found overhead press and clean and press great for improving my all round strength

Picking something up from the ground and tossing it above your head is tough, get that strength up and rest follows imo

I have no problem doing pull ups, muscle ups, toes to bar from doing basic strength excercises, it does take time, took me a long time to get good at them.

I am not an expert, just saying what worked for me

Pull ups, chin ups, muscle ups etc are tough, don't know what the general advice is with regard incorporating them into workouts, I think they are advanced strength excercises myself

yes they are good for all over strength but it wasnt the question

Transform

seefin wrote: »

Only recently tried doing chin ups and am failing miserably..can do 2 on a good day. Is it ok to do eg 5 sets of 5 negatives throughout each day or like any weightlifting, should I do alternating days to give muscle time to recover? Conflicting advice when I google

main advice is - do them daily but vary rep range (low reps with no assistance or negative only, medium reps with little assistance, high reps with more assistance eg bands) and grip e.g. chin ups, pull ups, towel pull ups, rope climb etc

also make sure you're doing horizontal pulling also e.g. one arm rows, cable rows etc

Slumberland

2 weeks ago I was exact same as you - could only do 2 unassisted. I'm a regular gym goer but they are something I never focussed on. Decided to work on these daily and in under 2 weeks I increased to 7. So I definitely recommend doing them every day

atilladehun

I used the convict conditioning program to improve them. It worked for me. Remember to focus on your form as much as possible.

Mellor

FriendsEV wrote: »

Everyone is different but I found overhead press and clean and press great for improving my all round strength

Picking something up from the ground and tossing it above your head is tough, get that strength up and rest follows imo

I have no problem doing pull ups, muscle ups, toes to bar from doing basic strength excercises, it does take time, took me a long time to get good at them.

I am not an expert, just saying what worked for me

Pull ups, chin ups, muscle ups etc are tough, don't know what the general advice is with regard incorporating them into workouts, I think they are advanced strength excercises myself

The first post mention pressing, not cleans.
People starting out with cleans are usually pull dominant, so there would be a carry over to pull up. Pulling movements are going to have a bigger carry over than pressing, bench pressing.


Pull-ups and chin up aren't advanced. They are two very basic movements. Beginners should be doing them (in some form) from day one.

Muscle ups are advanced. A certain strength level is required before looking at them imo.

seefin

Slumberland wrote:

2 weeks ago I was exact same as you - could only do 2 unassisted. I'm a regular gym goer but they are something I never focussed on. Decided to work on these daily and in under 2 weeks I increased to 7. So I definitely recommend doing them every day

Nice one! So based on yours and Transforms advice, Ill do daily for a few weeks. Did you do throughout the day any chance you got , or do a few sets close together? Did you just do the 2 chins unaided and gradually build or did you also do negatives?

shakeitoff

Mellor wrote: »

The first post mention pressing, not cleans.
People starting out with cleans are usually pull dominant, so there would be a carry over to pull up. Pulling movements are going to have a bigger carry over than pressing, bench pressing.


Pull-ups and chin up aren't advanced. They are two very basic movements. Beginners should be doing them (in some form) from day one.

Muscle ups are advanced. A certain strength level is required before looking at them imo.

Every gym exercise is a basic movement, how many people do you see doing good form pull ups and chin ups? And not just one random set, 3 sets with progressive overload. Unless you're in some high performance gym, rarely would be my guess and even then not sure.

Transform

seefin wrote: »

Nice one! So based on yours and Transforms advice, Ill do daily for a few weeks. Did you do throughout the day any chance you got , or do a few sets close together? Did you just do the 2 chins unaided and gradually build or did you also do negatives?

dude dont get complicated - vary daily, simples

Transform

shakeitoff wrote: »

Every gym exercise is a basic movement, how many people do you see doing good form pull ups and chin ups? And not just one random set, 3 sets with progressive overload. Unless you're in some high performance gym, rarely would be my guess and even then not sure.

wouldnt call where i work "high performance" yet everyone in here does pull ups with good form as programmed as part of strength work